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Old Posted Oct 21, 2009, 7:44 PM
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Interdisciplinary is the key. I never completed my engineering degree, but took studied two years in that major at a 'liberal arts' university, and as such, there were expectations that our degree would include more than just courses on thermodynamics and LaPlace Transforms.

While my current studies are very different (B.A. International Development) the principle remains the same, utility beyond education relies heavily on the horizontal plane of study (diversity) before deciding to narrow in on very specific topics.

It also makes university infinitely more exciting, just because variety is the spice of life. How cool is it that I can satisfy my major requirements, and spend a day in school learning about things as varied as the role soil conditions play in a country's agricultural land reform process, then learn about government relations with First Nation's peoples, then learn to speak Spanish, and then dabble a bit in macro-economics? Beats the hell out of a solid timetable of differential equations, and the like, especially when no consideration is given to their appropriate (read: wise) application in the real world.
     
     
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Made a separate thread here.
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$12M to revitalize Edmonton’s ‘special needs’ neighbourhoods


By Gordon Kent, edmontonjournal.comOctober 21, 2009 5:02 PMBe the first to post a comment



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Chinatown is an area of Edmonton that will benefit from a $12-million program to revitalize Edmonton’s ‘special needs’ neighbourhoods.

Chinatown is an area of Edmonton that will benefit from a $12-million program to revitalize Edmonton’s ‘special needs’ neighbourhoods.
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EDMONTON — The city wants to spend more than $12 million luring new businesses and residents to seven distressed inner-city Edmonton neighbourhoods in hopes of reversing their decline.

The three-year program would give money to housing developments, companies that move into vacant space or construct something new, and firms that fix up their building’s facade.

The scheme, given tentative approval Wednesday by council’s executive committee, is aimed at revitalizing pedestrian-oriented “main streets” such as Chinatown, Alberta Avenue, Beverly and Inglewood, says a city report.

It must still be passed by council as part of the 2010 budget.

Details include:

— $7,000 for apartments or row housing ($12,000 if they’re part of a housing-commercial project), for a total of $2.5 million a year.

— matching assistance of up to $15,000 for startup businesses using vacant buildings (or up to $40,000 to construct new commercial space), totalling $600,000 a year.

— total of $900,000 annually to continue the successful facade improvement program.

Such assistance to the inner city will encourage more private investment in these “special needs neighbourhoods” and boost property values, the report says.

A similar plan started in 1998 has been lauded as a success for helping attract more than 10,000 residents to downtown lofts and apartments through a $4,500 grant per housing unit to developers.

Mayor Stephen Mandel said it’s a good program that should boost city property taxes as districts that need revitalization grow.

“We need to get encouragement for people to do things in these areas … we need to help these neighbourhoods to get going, 107th Avenue needs a push,” he said.

“It’s a risky thing to do at these risky economic times, but I hope council moves forward.”

However, he isn’t sure where the money for this project should come from, saying it might be difficult to use general taxation when the special-needs neighbourhoods aren’t in all parts of Edmonton.

“Coun. (Dave) Thiele (would have) to tell people in his area ‘we’re using you tax dollars to pay for someone else’s improvements.’ ”

One alternative source of cash might be the approximately $75 million coming from Epcor to pay for the Gold Bar sewage treatment plant, Mandel said.

Coun. Ben Henderson also wants business associations to indicate whether some types of operations, such as massage parlours, should be excluded from the program, as liquor stores, pawnshops, gas stations and heavy equipment shops already are.

“I’m guessing the communities would not be happy if these were the kinds of businesses we were paying to renovate.”

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Sounds good. Hopefully these are regarded as a success in 5 years (probably will at least with Alberta Avenue with all the stuff happening there), as some of these areas desparately need some help, and would be great districts.
     
     
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I was not aware that 'reality' was a complete bias towards engineering and medicine at a 'comprehensive', "world class", 'top 20 by 2020' institution.

last time i checked, those words included the arts, fine arts, and law.

No I'm meaning that its not always going to be glass & marble, you may have to work in a dungeon. But lets face it, the arts just aren't relevant anymore.
     
     
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^ BS. there are many arts disciplines that are totally relevant.

And again, some of the borderline illiterate B.Sc's I've met who barely have a clue about anything beyond their particular field of study proves that perhaps more of a focus on the arts may be a benefit to a lot of people.

But hey, here in Alberta we only care about money right ? MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!

That to me is the ugliest part of this province, that and myopic attitudes like yours
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No I'm meaning that its not always going to be glass & marble, you may have to work in a dungeon. But lets face it, the arts just aren't relevant anymore.
Wow. You must live a horribly sad, sad life.

Ever seen a movie lately? Ever listened to music lately? Every watched a tv show lately? Ever been advertised to lately? Ever been to a concert? Ever looked at a car and said "wow that's HOT"? Ever looked at a building and said "wow that's HOT" (or in Edmonton's case...shed a tear)?

Vocal/recording artists (singers), performing artists (actors), graphic artists (advertisers), visual artists (special effects), models, architects, car designers, fashion designers, etc... Virtually every name in the credits at the end of a movie is an artist. Watch and appreciate next time you see one.

I'm sorry my friend, arts are alive and they're everywhere. Sometimes they're done well, and sometimes they're not. That's why it's art.

"An art is anything that can be done better."

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I think it's best we move the discussion back to construction updates. Thank you.
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I think it's best we move the discussion back to construction updates. Thank you.
concur or we will be trying to relay common knowledge (outside of alberta anyways) in perpetuity it seems
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to get back on topic...

how great would this be to have as infill in our city in oliver, the quarters, alberta ave (118av only...), or parts of old strath.


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^ the lofts across from Canada Place are at least as nice as those.

I wish they'd do more of them
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^ Not even close man......not even close.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2009, 4:58 AM
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^ I whole heartedly disagree. But then I've never agreed with your jaded opinions so whatever... your opinions are moot
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We took our kids to the new Nina Haggarty Centre for the Arts on 118th ave tonight for the free family arts programs. The building is quite well done and has a nice gallery for browsing. Another good addition to the ave.

I was at a meeting at the National Research Council earlier today and noticed that work is well underway on the new Servus HQ building (former Dell Call Center). It is a Manasc Isaac design and is a huge improvement on the bland brick exterior.

http://manascisaac.com/projects/servus
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^ the lofts across from Canada Place are at least as nice as those.

I wish they'd do more of them

Dated a girl last month who lives in the lofts...really cool inside....but yeah, they gotta do more for the retail below.
     
     
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"I was at a meeting at the National Research Council earlier today and noticed that work is well underway on the new Servus HQ building (former Dell Call Center). It is a Manasc Isaac design and is a huge improvement on the bland brick exterior.

http://manascisaac.com/projects/servus"


Wait until you see the inside:>
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"I was at a meeting at the National Research Council earlier today and noticed that work is well underway on the new Servus HQ building (former Dell Call Center). It is a Manasc Isaac design and is a huge improvement on the bland brick exterior.

http://manascisaac.com/projects/servus"


Wait until you see the inside:>
Yea, I drove by it yesterday and it is looking really good.
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Some notable permits:

Job No 90974942-001: To change the use from a Personal Service Shop tp a Restaurant (COCO DI) with 60 seats & to construct interior alterations.
11452 - JASPER AVENUE NW
Plan B3 Blk 14 Lots 80-82
COCO DI RESTAURANT

OLIVER

Job No 90974606-001: To change the use from a Personal Service Shop to a General Retail Store & to construct interior alterations.
10104 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 9921554 Blk 9B Lot 5
1494640 ALBERTA LIMITED O/A VITALITY HEALTH FOODS

DOWNTOWN

Job No 90942018-001: To add the use of a nightclub to a minor eating and drinking establishment ("Ceili's Irish Pub")
10304 - 109 STREET NW
Plan EDMONTO Blk HB
CEILI'S IRISH PUB

DOWNTOWN

Job No 90906867-001: To add an Outdoor Patio to an existing retail use.
8660 - 118 AVENUE NW
Plan 3062ET Blk 4 Lot 15
HANDY BAKERY 2004 LTD

EASTWOOD

Job No 90903410-001: To construct a two storey addition and interior alterations to a Health Services/Apartment House (one unit) building.
10634 - 124 STREET NW
Plan 0427044 Blk 29 Lot 17A
HABITAT STUDIO & WORKSHOP LTD

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^ the lofts across from Canada Place are at least as nice as those.

I wish they'd do more of them
I kinda agree with Tony...they are very nice lofts the ones you're referring to, probably the best in the city (IMO) but not as interesting as these I think.
     
     
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"I was at a meeting at the National Research Council earlier today and noticed that work is well underway on the new Servus HQ building (former Dell Call Center). It is a Manasc Isaac design and is a huge improvement on the bland brick exterior.

http://manascisaac.com/projects/servus"


Wait until you see the inside:>
From the concept drawings it looks like they're cutting in a central atrium and a huge skylight. Can't wait to see the results.
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