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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 8:13 PM
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Now we can refocus our mental energy on making 275 start construction.
I don't think we'll have to worry about this one. Should be a go....
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 8:25 PM
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I'll stop worrying when I see a crane.
Maybe they need to wait for the university to finish up construction. Those are probably the only two in the province.

I agree though... pitter patter geter done
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 9:21 PM
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I'll stop worrying when I see a crane.
Or even a hole being dug,.............................

On a side note, the Lux is looking pretty good.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 9:29 PM
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Also, I find it interesting that Stoneset Equities has an office in Saskatoon. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of them either.

"Stoneset is currently waiting for a response as to
whether Saskatchewan housing will proceed with the project in its entirety or that a new program will need to be
prepared to match the funding that they have available."

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Which would lead me to believe that we'll see something regardless of Sask Housing commitment... And the government (Sask Housing) is to blame for this slow paced project as Stonset would likely argue. The building may just be shorter... try 16-18 storey I guess if Sask Housing won't pony up the cash.

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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 2:01 AM
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Articulated buses?

Why does Saskatoon need *larger* buses?

Most routes only run once or twice an hour -- increasing frequency of service to more than one bus every half hour would be a much, much more effective way to boost ridership.

Waiting for an hour in -40 is not a fun way to get around.
Clearly you do not use the bus very often. During the school year my route (80) comes 4 times an hour. The bus is always packed and these buses are a welcomed relief! We will require less buses less often b/c more people will be transported at once.
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I say way to go Lake Placid for getting the extension. No other developer that would acquire this land would propose something so extravagant. Saskatoon NEEDS this development, without it the south downtown will be another mediocre development done by the city. It sounds like they submitted some papers that seem pretty convincing regarding the security of their financing, lets hope this is true.
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There is so much negative talk about Lake Placid. How many of those talking know much about building projects of this size. I don't and I won't be critical of the developer. They have put alot on time and money into this project and should be given the ability in these financial times to get it together. I don't remember any other developer coming up with as much effort as these people have. In fact I don't remember any other developer even interested. I would love to see this go ahead. How many of the negative people have even taken time to go down and see how great the lower level of River Landing is. I try to get there as often as time permits and enjoy all the people who have found this gem and enjoy it. If you haven't been there, take the time to go. You will be pleasently surprised.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 4:17 AM
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Clearly you do not use the bus very often. During the school year my route (80) comes 4 times an hour. The bus is always packed and these buses are a welcomed relief! We will require less buses less often b/c more people will be transported at once.

I would totally agree. If the route is well travelled and busier than other routes, then larger buses would for sure be more practical for carrying a larger amount of passengers, and using the smaller buses for less busy routes would be a smarter option and better for the environment!
     
     
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There is so much negative talk about Lake Placid. How many of those talking know much about building projects of this size. I don't and I won't be critical of the developer. They have put alot on time and money into this project and should be given the ability in these financial times to get it together. I don't remember any other developer coming up with as much effort as these people have. In fact I don't remember any other developer even interested. I would love to see this go ahead. How many of the negative people have even taken time to go down and see how great the lower level of River Landing is. I try to get there as often as time permits and enjoy all the people who have found this gem and enjoy it. If you haven't been there, take the time to go. You will be pleasently surprised.
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I would totally agree. If the route is well travelled and busier than other routes, then larger buses would for sure be more practical for carrying a larger amount of passengers, and using the smaller buses for less busy routes would be a smarter option and better for the environment!
Well said! It's been a while since I've taken the bus (I bike now) but I remember times when you couldn't even fit one more person because the bus was so packed. I'm excited to see the accordion buses traveling our streets, way to go Saskatoon Transit
     
     
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River Landing Phase 2

Sneak peak of the Meewasin Trail. Rumor has it will be open soon.




























     
     
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Lake Placid gets time
Pay up or lose riverfront land, city councillors tell developer

By David Hutton, The StarPhoenix
August 20, 2009 8:44 AM


After more than one hour of debate on whether the future of Lake Placid Developments' riverfront megaproject should be an election issue, city council on Wednesday granted the developer an extension to the last business day in October to pay the city $4.5 million for its south downtown property.

The extension was granted on the condition that roughly $215,000 in interest owed to the City of Saskatoon after missing a January payment deadline is paid by Aug. 31.

If either payment isn't made, the $250-million River Landing Village project will be dead. If the payment is made, the development permit requires that excavation of the land must be completed by June 30, 2010.

Lake Placid CEO Michael Lobsinger answered a bevy of questions from councillors at a special council meeting Wednesday.

"I sit in front of you embarrassed and humbled . . . but believe the funding is imminent," he told council.

"This is not the way it was planned."

Lobsinger, who said he has invested $6.5 million in the project to date and is spending $500,000 a month, said Wednesday he has a financial backer in Europe with "significant capital."

The money was "committed" in early May but not "funded," he said.

"When I receive the funds, you will receive the funds," he said. "If I haven't fulfilled the obligations, or my lender hasn't fulfilled the obligations, I lose."

All city councillors agreed an extension is warranted, saying they want the project to move forward. But a debate broke out on which date the payment deadline should be extended to: A deadline of Sept. 15, which would have some flexibility, or drop-dead deadlines of Sept. 30 or Oct. 30, the latter of which was recommended by the city's administration and lobbied for in a letter from Lobsinger that arrived late Monday.

Four councillors argued the Oct. 30 deadline, two days after the fall municipal election, would make the future of Lake Placid a campaign issue. Dealing with the issue before the writ is dropped would "show integrity," said Coun. Charlie Clark.

Councillors Tiffany Paulsen, Darren Hill and Pat Lorje also backed an earlier payment deadline to avoid politicizing the issue, they said.

"Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, Oct. 30 presents some very real difficulties and the citizens feel . . . that this is a game that's being played and the timing, 48 hours after an election, creates the illusion it's a game," Paulsen said. "If the money goes through, then the project goes ahead.

"But if it doesn't, the issue lands right back on to the next council's agenda, solidly, squarely and right in their face. . . . All the discussion will be focused on is this going to happen?"

Six councillors and the mayor argued the Oct. 30 deadline was merited because it was requested by Lobsinger and because council will no longer have to vote on the matter, with the payment for the land left with the company.

"This is not a political issue," said Coun. Glen Penner. "There are no more political decisions on this."

Mayor Don Atchison said similar extensions have been granted in the past and the date is no more than a concession to the company because of the exceptional circumstances it has faced, first with global financial markets collapsing, then with having to lobby the province for legislation to allow strata land titling, which several city projects required.

"This is absolute certainty now," Atchison said of the Oct. 30 deadline. "You heard me at the end there tell Mr. Lobsinger if he doesn't come up with the $214,197.14, the deal is finished, or if he doesn't come up with the money for the land, it's terminated as well.

"There's no more chances."

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What a vast improvement over the previous state of the riverbank there. I can't wait to stroll it myself!
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Pay up or lose riverfront land, city councillors tell developer
Ugh... headlines like these don't do much to encourage the general public to stick with this project.

I imagine the "confidential documents" attached to Lobsinger's presentation to council included specifics of which lenders he's contacted, and how far along the negotiation process is - although I couldn't find any mention on the net about finance company mentioned in one of the S-P articles posted here a couple of days ago. It mentioned a company name specifically, starting with S, like Seremia or something, but I can't find it mentioned here anymore...

Anyway, also wanted to comment on those beautiful RL phase 2 shots! Very exciting, I'd love to see it open this summer - perhaps in time for the fireworks festival on Labour Day. Perhaps photos like those in the S-P would generate positive press for the whole development, and what it can/could look like.
     
     
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"Now Lake Placid has told the city it has found a lender in a company called Seremia Ltd., which has a bank account in Nicosia, Cyprus"

Sounds pretty sketchy to me, lol. If you Google that nothing comes up but River Landing stuff.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 9:33 PM
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"Now Lake Placid has told the city it has found a lender in a company called Seremia Ltd., which has a bank account in Nicosia, Cyprus"

Sounds pretty sketchy to me, lol. If you Google that nothing comes up but River Landing stuff.
Yes that does sound sketchy.
     
     
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River Landing is wrong place for petty politics

By Gerry Klein, The StarPhoenix August 19, 2009

Saskatoon is a community that is inordinately attached to the river that gives it character and life, and the River Landing project has grown to legendary status through decades of planned but stalled development proposals.

This has meant both city hall and the Meewasin Valley Authority have put in place regulations protecting the interests of the concerned citizenry. While these regulations are laudable, they also make life difficult in terms of a freewheeling development meant primarily as an investment opportunity.

Add to all this the collapse of the world's financial markets just as Lake Placid was about to make its move on a $200-million project, and it is no wonder the developer has been forced to ask for one extension after the other -- including one to wait for the provincial government to change stratification legislation in order to allow multiple ownership of the various aspects of the hotel, condo, office-tower and retail development.

It is also understandable that councillors gathering today at a special council meeting to discuss granting yet another extension might have some hard questions for Lake Placid's Michael Lobsinger, who has held his cards close to his chest through every stage of the development.

But before any of the councillors decides it's time to deal the coup de grâce on a deal that has already cost the investors an estimated $6 million, they better be sure there is something at least as good waiting in the wings.

The public has already invested in excess of $68 million on the city's River Landing, stretching from the Traffic Bridge through to Avenue C. And the investments aren't over yet. On Monday, for example, in an eight-to-three vote, council agreed to a $6.3-million cost overrun for the work that is now underway and will take place during the next couple of years on the west side of River Landing, in the hope that this money and more will be recouped by the added land values in the area.

For this investment to offer its maximum return to the citizens of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan and Canada -- the three levels of government that have put their money on the table -- what goes on Parcel Y must be of top-notch quality.

This is not to suggest taxpayers haven't already seen a significant return on their investment. This stretch of riverfront property, which used to be considered by many as potentially the most valuable gravel pit and tumbleweed field in North America, has become a gem in the city's crown.

Land that used to be a no-go zone in the dark and the shady side of a derelict power station and industrial block is now one of the favourite daytime, weekend and evening destinations for thousands of citizens. It is the home to Persephone Theatre, the farmers' market, public gathering space and a walkway that is bragged about across the country.

That's no reason to believe the job is done, however.

As Mayor Don Atchison pointed out at Monday's council meeting, Saskatoon must not abandon the full potential of this entire project because a developer has been caught up in a global economic downturn.

It's important for council to remember as well that in a period of global economic uncertainty, if they are seen treating a potential investor unfairly, it could seriously damage Saskatoon's reputation as a place to do business and its chances to attract major players for any future project.

The city is wise to set strict conditions on Lake Placid -- including insisting that the back-owed interest payment be made by month's end and that the land be paid for in full by the end of October. The administration should also be verifying the bona fides of Seremia Ltd., the offshore investment company providing capital for the project.

The citizens will be counting on the administration to do its due diligence.

But the ultimate responsibility to see that the community gets a development of the scale and grandeur expected by Saskatoon will rest with council. And those who would kill a project in hand out of vindictiveness or petty politics had better be able to come up with something at least as good as an alternative.

Otherwise, they should nurture what they have and if it is to die, work hard to ensure that the conditions are in place so the next proposal doesn't amount to adding more water to our wine.

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I found that article very irritating. Lake Placid has no history of success, has repeatedly obfuscated and missed deadlines on this project, and are now proposing financing from some 'European' company no one has ever heard of, yet it's the public's fault for being overly-critical? One lesson I don't plan to take from the world financial crisis is that big monetary deals shouldn't be scrutinized too closely.
     
     
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I couldn't agree more Ibird, you've really hit the nail on the head!

On another lighter note, I'm in Amsterdam right now and thought we could all use a little inspiration from the really cool, modern buildings that are going up here. Take a look at my video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_INdCWPBz4
     
     
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