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Old Posted Aug 18, 2009, 10:27 PM
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Correct. The SW corner, across 8th from the church. Unless there have been some backroom dealings the Tim Horton plan is long dead. To put that crap there a zoning change was required, and while it was submitted a few years back it was subsequently withdrawn.

The fact that the house there is still standing and only a small portion of the lot has actually been graded (as of last night anyway), leads me to believe that whatever is going on is minor and not long term.
Yes the house is still standing plus the ICR advertising sign (build to suit office/medical) .. the grading and stakes appear to be a very small portion of the lot. I agree it is probably temporary at this stage! Maybe just more advertising on the way ..
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 7:42 AM
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Articulated buses?

Why does Saskatoon need *larger* buses?

Most routes only run once or twice an hour -- increasing frequency of service to more than one bus every half hour would be a much, much more effective way to boost ridership.

Waiting for an hour in -40 is not a fun way to get around.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:45 PM
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City meets with Lake Placid
Officials suggest new deadlines be set for project payments

By David Hutton, The StarPhoenix August 19, 2009

The city's administration is recommending councillors set a deadline of the end of the month for Lake Placid Developments to come through with the $214,197 in interest it owes the City of Saskatoon for its River Landing Village mega-project.

If that payment is made, the company will have until Oct. 30, two days after the fall civic election, to pay the $4.55 million it owes the city for the land south of 19th Street, across from Persephone Theatre. This must be done before the developer can break ground on the proposed $200-million-plus hotel-condo-retail-office project.

"I'm still hopeful that Lake Placid has just encountered a number of difficulties in securing financing," said city manager Murray Totland. "I want to think that that's what this is and I've received assurances that that's what the situation is and financing is imminent.

"I think it's in our best interest for the city for this deal to proceed."

Lake Placid CEO Michael Lobsinger will face questions from councillors at a special meeting at 11 a.m. today after missing a Monday payment deadline.

Some on council argue an extension is warranted if the interest is paid by month's end, given the global economic trouble, while others believe it's time to find a new developer for the land sooner rather than later.

If the extension isn't granted by council, then Lake Placid would be in default and the city would be forced to take back the land and search, yet again, for a developer for one of the city's most valuable riverfront properties.

"We don't have a Plan B sitting on the shelf here at City Hall," said city manager Murray Totland. "We'd need to go back to the drawing board of sorts and rethink how'd we'd like to go forward on perhaps a different proposal."

There have been other local developers who have shown an interest and have the "financial wherewithal" to build a cornerstone project on the site, said Coun. Gord Wyant.

"I want to hear what Mr. Lobsinger has to say," Wyant said. "It's hard to believe he's not genuinely interested in moving this project forward.

"But at some point in time we have to move forward on this project. If there are people who are genuinely interested in moving forward on that land (other than Lake Placid) we have to give them the opportunity sooner rather than later."

Lobsinger, in a two-page letter to council, said his company has spent more than $6.5 million toward the project, including land acquisition, finance fees, designs and marketing, among other costs. Lake Placid made two downpayments totalling $250,000 late last year.

The company has pre-sold 50 condo units, the letter states.

Lobsinger argues funding for the project "will be released to us shortly." With problems securing funds from Canadian banks because of the global credit crisis, the company turned to overseas lending institutions but is having difficulty obtaining the financing, he wrote.

"This process has taken far longer than we originally anticipated," he wrote.

The development at the cornerstone River Landing site is crucial in attracting private development for the rest of River Landing, which counts Persephone Theatre, which had some public funding, as the only private-sector tenant thus far.

Without "meaningful" private-sector investment, it becomes difficult to attract solid proposals for housing and restaurant developments on the other sites the city has up for sale in the south downtown, Totland said. The city is also relying on those land sales to finance $6.3 million in cost overruns on Phase 2 riverfront projects, west of the Senator Sid Buckwold Bridge.

"I think it's a catalyst for the River Landing project and will allow the other plans that we want to unfold to come to their full value and fruition," Totland said. "It makes River Landing what we always said it should be. Suddenly the whole site is animated and it starts fulfilling the mandate envisioned for it."

As for what he expects of the meeting, the city manager said he's hopeful.

"I'd love to see them bring a $5-million cheque to council tomorrow," Totland said, laughing. "That would prove they're committed."

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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:55 PM
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^ So in other words we might have the funds in place on October 31. 2009 or we might not, we might have the funds in place August 20, 2011 or we might not. Time to fish or cut bait!
     
     
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Re: Lake Placid Letter to City Council

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In support of our request we confirm via attached (confidential) agreements that our funds are committed and available shortly.
Whatever they've attached (banking agreements?) should remove any doubts of Council as to whether Lake Placid is bluffing about having funding in place imminently.

Maybe I'm too desperate to see this project go ahead, but this letter from Mr. Lobsinger makes me feel more confident about the project's fate than before. Surely it will calm Council's fears too?
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I think Council should approve the extension, but if they still can't pull it together by the end of October then it's probably time to pull the plug. If it does so happen that things go back to the drawing board I think Meridian should head up the design of the project after seeing their latest work at the Luxe and the KG .
     
     
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I don't recall seeing a long line of developers with world class proposals on their drawing boards during the initial RFP.

I'm not sure what we would see as an alternative post-boom.
     
     
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Whatever they've attached (banking agreements?) should remove any doubts of Council as to whether Lake Placid is bluffing about having funding in place imminently.

Maybe I'm too desperate to see this project go ahead, but this letter from Mr. Lobsinger makes me feel more confident about the project's fate than before. Surely it will calm Council's fears too?
I also fall into the desperate camp and after seeing this letter I know which way I would be voting.
Saskatoon truly deserves this project and every thing possible should be done to keep it alive.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 4:46 PM
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Going through Star Phoenix and the new650's website, there seems to be a lot of public backlash towards the mayor and Lake Placid over this issue. While it is a nice project they've seemed to have completely lost public support and confidence.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Project+misses+deadline/1903607/story.html

Although most of the people who post on SPs website seem to be bunch of illiterate yahoos most of the time so I don't think they speak for the majority.

On another note, I don't see the issue in granting another 6 week extension. Although I don't see the city finding another developer anytime soon if this plan falls through. As I recall Lake Placid were the only ones that showed interest in the peak of our boom.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 5:43 PM
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I have a quick and easy way for LPDI to raise money. It's actually quite simple.

Step 1) Go to the TSX and list LPDI as a stock with a common share offering of ____

Step 2) Watch people buy shares in your company. Watch banks become more adaptable to financing.

I think I would throw $1000 bucks at this company for 100 shares... Why the hell not?

The nagative's are of course there are other companies out there that will desire take over's and what not, but I believe we have lost sight of what the Stock market was originally intended for: Not as a legalized global gaming circut, but a public medium in which companies can recieve financing from abroad in search of development.

In short my message to LPDI:

Go Public!

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I'm also in the desperate and hopeful group. I don't see any harm in allowing another extension. There was a complete history of south downtown redevelopment posted here a while ago something like 30+years of starts and stops and projects falling through for various reasons. Why pull the plug on a group that have a design in place and have done the leg work already? Then we would just have to start all over again with an rfp etc etc etc.

I'm prepared to be patient and give lake placid the benefit of the doubt... at least until halloween.
     
     
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It's nice to see confidential letter's posted on this site.
I should mention that the letter I posted here is not confidential and is available to the public through the City of Saskatoon website. Confidential agreements that came with the letter would remain just that.
     
     
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I should mention that the letter I posted here is not confidential and is available to the public through the City of Saskatoon website. Confidential agreements that came with the letter would remain just that.
Oops didn't read that with a fine tooth comb.

I wonder what the confidential agreements are?
     
     
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The proposal itself seems to have backing, can another developer just run with it? Who owns the rights to the architectural drawings and tenant list?
     
     
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River Landing Deadline Reset

The developer of the River Landing Village faced some hard questions from city council at a special meeting today.

The meeting was called because Lake Placid did not pay up on the land sale before its deadline on August 17. CEO Michael Lobsinger asked for an extension to October 30th.

Some councillors felt that date was too far ahead. If the deal didn't go through it would put pressure on the new council once civic elections are done on October 28th.

However, the majority, including the mayor, put their faith in Lake Placid, and passed the motion to extend the deadline.

The agreement is that Lake Placid pay their interest in full by the end of August, and pay for the land by the end of October. If either payment doesn't go through, they'll lose the deal.

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Phew...

I'm only letting out a small sigh of relief right now. I'll be even more relieved when Lake Placid ponies up the dough in October. Fingers crossed.
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Now we can refocus our mental energy on making 275 start construction.
     
     
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