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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:08 AM
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Yes, I would like to see that expanded. Or Smart Cards to come faster.
agreed. This is due to short-sightedness...also known as lack of vision.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:16 AM
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Is Vancouver's shiny, new Canada Line worth the price?

Brian Hutchinson, National Post
Published: Tuesday, August 18, 2009

VANCOUVER -- Already boastful of their city's natural beauty and its status as the world's best in almost everything, Vancouverites have found reason to be even more insufferable.

On Monday, the city's new light metro system was opened to the public. Completed on budget and some 100 days ahead of schedule, it is the latest in a roster of municipal mega-projects to launch this year, and accompanies new bridges, highways and Olympic Winter Games facilities.

The 19-kilometre Canada Line connects downtown Vancouver to suburban Richmond and to Vancouver International Airport, making it the first airport in Canada to be serviced directly with passenger rail. According to local braggadocios, this has caused a rash of "airport transit envy" in bigger, more mature centres such as Toronto and Montreal.

But building the $2.05-billion line was a long and frequently painful pursuit. There were many bumps en route. Some merchants along the line saw their businesses fail during a disruptive construction process that began in 2005. Worse, one construction worker died last year when the crane he was operating tipped and fell. And there are plenty of armchair transit experts who claim the Canada Line will not meet its target of 100,000 passengers a day by 2010.

No one is thrilled with the huge price tag, the majority of which will be paid by taxpayers, at municipal, provincial and federal levels. The line's designer, builder, and operator - a private joint venture company that contributed $720-million to the construction - will receive an undisclosed amount of subsidy, funded by taxpayers, should ridership not meet projections.

Meanwhile, the publicly funded transit company that has authority for the line is teetering, financially. TransLink carries $1.82-billion in long-term debt, is bracing for a $95-million budget deficit this year, and requires additional income of $450-million a year, over the next decade, just to maintain current service levels and implement planned improvements.

Should it continue operating without a massive annual revenue boost, TransLink will be "forced" to make "aggressive adjustments to its service plans," according to its latest annual report, released this spring.

The Canada Line is something this city can't really afford. It may not even be feasible over the long term. But for the moment, while the rail cars are still shiny new, it is boosting local pride.

On Monday, some 85,000 people came to ride the rails for free. Queues began to form four hours before the inaugural 1 p.m. departure from the downtown Waterfront Station.

Local artist Henry Jung hoped to be on the first run. He joined the queue at 10 a.m. By noon, his feet were sore. He was thirsty and hungry. He quit the line-up and visited Vancouver's extravagant new $883-million convention centre instead.

We met on the Canada Line on Tuesday. No more free rides; no line-ups to get on board. The 9 a.m. departure was not half full. Mr. Jung hogged two front-row seats.

The Canada Line, like Vancouver's two older light metro lines, is automated and does not require drivers, so passengers at the front of the two-car trains enjoy terrific views.

I squeezed in beside him. We pulled away from underground Waterfront Station and headed south, beneath Vancouver's downtown office towers.

"Nice train," I said.

"Nice?" He seemed surprised. "It's more than nice. It's great."

We zipped along in silence for a while.

"It's got new train smell," said Mr. Jung, approvingly.

The train continued underground, through trendy Yaletown, then under False Creek and the busy Cambie Street corridor.

Mr. Jung began to sway. "Too many curves," my seatmate snapped suddenly. "Does the track have to be so bendy?"

The train emerged from its long tunnel and into the open air. Mr. Jung looked relieved and inhaled deeply. We crossed a bridge that spans the Fraser River and glided to the next station, attached to a casino. The busiest and most lucrative casino in British Columbia. Mr. Jung disembarked.

On to the airport, the end of the line. The trip from downtown Vancouver took just under half an hour, and cost $3.75 (although a special surcharge of at least $2 is expected to be added next year). About 30 passengers left the train, a few of them with luggage.

"I'm not flying nowhere," said Ian McOscar, who stood smoking a cigarette outside the airport station. He brandished a $45 annual transit pass, sold to seniors with low incomes. "I'm just a lifetime transit user, out for a ride." An expert, in other words.

So what does he think? Is the Canada Line worth the $2-billion?

"You bet it is," said Mr. McOscar. "We've got the only train in Canada that runs to an airport, did you know? You can't beat that."

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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:43 AM
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Here's a question. Since on this line they are running a single rolling stock type with a single train length on automated control...why haven't they painted the places the doors open onto the platform? It would definitely help with crowd control on the platforms.
     
     
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i was amazed by the people who just got on the train without waiting for people to get off - they must not be regular transit users
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Thanks guys for answering my previous question.

Another question I have now is about that passport thing. So we have until Aug 23 to collect all the stamps ? What happens after we collect all the stamps ?
     
     
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Yeah, that does make sense. Maybe they'll do that later?

I wish the station signs would be larger, and brighter, so that people would realize what station they are at during the evenings when it's darker.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:46 AM
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Thanks guys for answering my previous question.

Another question I have now is about that passport thing. So we have until Aug 23 to collect all the stamps ? What happens after we collect all the stamps ?
I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that you get some sort of prize?

Someone confirm that?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 2:48 AM
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Here's a question. Since on this line they are running a single rolling stock type with a single train length on automated control...why haven't they painted the places the doors open onto the platform? It would definitely help with crowd control on the platforms.
That's an excellent idea, I do hope the folks at InTransitBC who read this forum take note of it.


Anyhow, I had my first Canada Line train ride about an hour ago....I'll post my rather gushing review later tonight. (no sarcasm)
     
     
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who stamps them? i saw some people with those little passports today
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Is Vancouver's shiny, new Canada Line worth the price?

Brian Hutchinson, National Post
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The train emerged from its long tunnel and into the open air. Mr. Jung looked relieved and inhaled deeply.
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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1906149
When I was riding the train yesterday, most of the passengers actually bursted into 'Ya! Wow! Sunlight!...' when the train exited from the tunnel to above ground.
I guess people got used to the above ground street view on Expo/Millennium Line. It was pretty boring looking out the window(dark, nothing but concrete wall) when the train was underground. I almost felt asleep even though I was standing inside the packed train(must be a lack of oxygen, AC didn't work well at all with so many people). May be TV should be placed on the train to show some news and ads(another way to get some revenue).
     
     
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'Airbag' technology used by Canada Line trains

Some of the news articles mentioned that 'Airbag' technology is used in Canada Line train to make it move smoothly and quietly.
Does anyone know how the technolgoy works?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 3:28 AM
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Some of the news articles mentioned that 'Airbag' technology is used in Canada Line train to make it move smoothly and quietly.
Does anyone know how the technolgoy works?
It keeps the train stable and leveled, and it also absorbs a lot of vibrations.
     
     
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Today is actually another free day on Canada Line, as no ticketed issued according to this report:
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Transit police not giving tickets to Canada Line fare evaders—yet
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Transit Police Service officers will not issue tickets today (August 18) to people riding the Canada Line without paying the fare.

“What we’re doing today is a more thorough education, as opposed to fare enforcement,” Sgt. Tom Seaman, spokesperson for the police force, told the Straight by phone.

Today marks the first day fares are required on the new rapid-transit line, which opened yesterday (August 17) to great fanfare.

Around 80,000 passengers boarded the Canada Line yesterday between 1 and 9 p.m., when the service was free of charge.

“Everybody that’s been stopped without a fare today has just been educated in the fact they are required to buy a fare,” Seaman said. “No one has been issued a ticket today, but for today they are doing fare education as opposed to fare enforcement. But everyone is still required to have a ticket. So far, they have only found eight people that have violated the statute.”

Seaman said that transit police officers will give it “a couple of days” before they start cracking down on fare evaders, adding “it will be up to the discretion of each officer”.

“If they run into someone that they deal with regularly on the line—that’s constantly taking advantage of the system—I’m sure they’ll get an infraction ticket,” he said.
     
     
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^ quite fair, i'm glad they are doing that.
     
     
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Spent two minutes on the train today (to Waterfront and back from City Centre) most enjoyable!

It does feel like a "big city" to be able to step off and be in the Pacific Centre
Congratulations on your first SkyTrain ride!

I'm serious. I think that the Canada Line is fulfilling a hugely important role as many people's first experience with rapid transit in Vancouver. When the time comes to debate and fight and pay for more of it the positive impression that was left on tens of thousands of people who tried the line will be important, especially if they are not regular transit users.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 3:33 AM
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They may not be giving tickets, but Waterfront and City Centre both had two attendants immediately before the "Fare Paid Zone" checking if people had them.

I suppose it's nice to have a bit of a grace period, you certainly couldn't have gotten away with going on free though.
     
     
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who stamps them? i saw some people with those little passports today

those passports, I waited 2.5hrs in line for them and they ran out...
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I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that you get some sort of prize?

Someone confirm that?
You don't have to collect all the stamps for draw. simply enter the passcode in the website http://www.shoptheline.ca/contest/passport

Though I've got all the stamps yesterday including the bonus one at Lansdowne
     
     
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It's been a long time since I've used SkyTrain - parked at Renfrew Stn and transferred at Waterfront. I forgot just how fast and convenient it is, not to mention the Canada Line.

I snagged a few pictures of dead TVMs and Waterfront and YVR but I see that I've already been beaten to that.
     
     
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I was watching CTV news channel last night and there is some pretty jealous people in Toronto and Montreal, especially Toronto. Apparently Toronto will have to wait 7 years for their train to the airport.

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I especially loved what the one guy [from Toronto who] said:"Why is Vancouver getting this before us? Aren't we the biggest city? Doesn't everyone come here? Like really, who the hell goes to Vancouver?"
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VANCOUVER -- Already boastful of their city's natural beauty and its status as the world's best in almost everything, Vancouverites have found reason to be even more insufferable.
Just can't help myself, but in that same vein of dry humour, I thought that this Coors Lite ad is the icing on the cake:



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