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Old Posted Aug 13, 2009, 12:02 AM
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still working on how tall something has to be here before a good telescope would get you that water view though.
Doesn't have to be tall whatsoever. Just point the telescope at Mars. I hear it may have water, at least in ice form.
     
     
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Doesn't have to be tall whatsoever. Just point the telescope at Mars. I hear it may have water, at least in ice form.
yeah, but just think how cool it would be if you could read "sleek and soaring, canada's tallest condominium will punctuate the skyline like no other building. at [more than] 75 stories..." and know the project is in edmonton and not in the centre of the universe as they know it...
     
     
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last time we were there we stayed at the pan pacific - an interesting mixed use retail/grocer/hotel/condo in an interesting area in its own right - and we walked around a lot (which is something we do where ever we end up) looking for things that we like and things we don't, things that work and things that don't.

good development is a lot like good architecture - not much is really "new and original" - and plagiarism can be the highest form of compliment.
I love the Pan Pacific - it's the place I always stay there - it is great development there. It's nothing blockbuster, but it looks good, with a good mix of retail/condo/hotel..
     
     
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^ Love it! Seems silly at first, but it adds something different... see so much of this in many progressive European cities - walk around a corner, and WHAM theres a bright red rhinoceros
Hence why I am a fan of the 'legs' at Southgate.
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Edmonton office vacancy rate set to climb


BY BILL MAH, EDMONTON JOURNALAUGUST 13, 2009 6:08 AMBE THE FIRST TO POST A COMMENT


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Edmonton's office vacancy rate is set to jump after staying relatively stable.
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Edmonton's office market will see vacancies climb as tens of thousands of square feet come onto the market from downsizing firms, says a commercial real estate broker with Avison Young.

Edmonton's vacancy rate jumped 2.2 percentage points to 7.5 per cent from mid-2008 to mid-2009, according to an Avison Young report released last week.

Edmonton maintained a relatively healthy rate in part due to a minimal amount of sublease space returned to the market, said Cory Wosnack, a principal with Avison Young.

But the vacancy rate is set to increase as 109,000 square feet comes onto the market from Telus House (formerly called TELUS Plaza South) and Sun Life Place. Telus plans to put 70,000 square feet of its office space on the sublease market, said Wosnack. The Vancouver-based company said last week it has cut a total of 1,500 jobs this year. Another 39,000 square feet is expected from Sun Life.

"This will increase the amount of available space in the downtown market by 0.7 per cent," Wosnack said.

When the Epcor Tower is completed, another 400,000 to 500,000 square feet will become available in the downtown financial sector, he said.

"This is the first time that we're seeing some major impacts happen to the downtown market through this economic downturn.

"Sooner than landlords were expecting they will have to begin considering their financial terms and the inducements that they're offering to tenants."

Another development affecting the financial office market is the lawyers and staff of the former Hendrickson Gower Massing Olivieri law firm joining MacPherson Leslie and Tyerman under one roof on the 22nd and 23rd floors of Oxford Tower, said Chad Boddez of Colliers International.

The firm is taking 18,364 square feet.

In the industrial market, the second quarter saw record low activity levels in leasing, building sales, land sales and new development, said a market report from Colliers International.

The firm said that Edmonton's former landlord and vendor market almost completely changed to a tenant and purchaser market by the second quarter.

"Typically, we would not declare a market a 'tenant/purchaser'market when the vacancy rate is still relatively low at 3.80 per cent as measured in Greater Edmonton, however, it is the upward trend that cannot be ignored as it was only 18 months ago that the vacancy rate was 1.51 per cent."

In the retail market, Westgate Centre, a development at 170th Street and Stony Plain Road, has been sold to Wheaton Investments Ltd., announced CB Richard Ellis on Wednesday.

The 29,519-square-foot property sold within four per cent of its $7.7-million list price and took three months from listing to closing, said Dave Young, CBRE senior vice-president.

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Does HQ drain really matter?


BY GARY LAMPHIER, EDMONTON JOURNALAUGUST 13, 2009


Drip, drip, drip, drip. Can you hear that sound?

No, it's not a leaky faucet. It's the steady dribble of corporate head offices leaving Edmonton.

Churchill Corp., which announced plans to move its senior execs to Calgary on Wednesday, is merely the latest to head south.

In June, North American Energy Partners made a similar trek down the QE II, as CEO Rod Ruston and a handful of top officers fled their former base in Acheson, just west of the city, for Cowtown.

Meanwhile, the recent takeovers of two other key local firms--Lockerbie& Hole and Eveready Inc.--have further shrunk the city's modest base of head offices.

All four of the above-named firms were among the capital region's 10 largest public companies, based on market value, and three of the four ranked among the city's biggest construction firms.

Like North American Energy, whose senior execs wanted to be closer to their key customers, Churchill says the move should yield improved efficiencies.

"The head office for Stuart Olson, our largest operating subsidiary, is based in Calgary. Given the amount of work they do, and our involvement in some of those decisions, it necessitated a lot of travel by senior management," says Andrew Apedoe, Churchill's VP, investor relations.

"That was part of the driver."

The fact that Churchill CEO Jim Houck resides in Calgary was surely a factor too, although Apedoe insists that wasn't the main one.

Although the depleted ranks of major head offices in Edmonton worries some--Edmonton Economic Development Corp. boss Ron Gilbertson, for one, concedes the trend is "really disturbing"-- it's as much about civic image and corporate bragging rights as anything else.

The economic impact is likely to be negligible.

You can count on two hands the number of senior execs at Churchill and North American who are actually involved in the moves. Meanwhile, both firms will continue to run far larger operational offices in the Edmonton region.

In fact, under Churchill's complex reorganization plan, it also plans to shift the head office of its Laird Electric division to Edmonton from Fort McMurray. Churchill has also struck a deal with an unnamed firm to sell its long-troubled Triton industrial division.

While some will lament the loss of some of Edmonton's most iconic companies -- Stuart Olson was founded in this city 70 years ago, and Lockerbie&Hole's roots go back more than a century--the changes to the local corporate landscape are hardly unique. Over the past few years, virtually every large Canadian city has lost head offices, mainly through corporate takeovers.

Many of Ottawa's high-tech stars have disappeared or been swallowed by foreign buyers. Toronto has lost such marquee players as Inco, Dofasco, Falconbridge, and Four Seasons Hotels, to name just a few.

Vancouver has arguably suffered the biggest outflow of head office jobs of any major Canadian city. Local giants such as MacMillan Bloedel, Intrawest, Westcoast Energy and Terasen have all been snapped up by foreign buyers.

It's the same story in Montreal, where the disappearance of players like the Royal Bank, Seagram, Sun Life, Molson and Alcan has badly damaged the city's profile as a major head office centre, and dampened its growth prospects.

Even Calgary hasn't escaped the loss of key head offices, although a long-predicted wave of consolidation among the major exploration and production companies that remain has yet to occur.

In Edmonton, as elsewhere, there's also a flip side to the story. While several major local players have left, others have emerged to take their place.

Capital Power--recently spun off by Epcor Utilities through an IPO (initial public offering) on the Toronto Stock Exchange--now ranks as Edmonton's most valuable public company, with a market cap of $1.6 billion. Affiliate Epcor Power, with a market cap of about $800 billion, ranks fourth.

Liquor Stores Income Fund, K-Bro Linen and AutoCanada also rank among the larger publicly traded firms in the city. All were formed over the past few years, and now trade on the TSX.

Alberta Investment Management Co. (AIMCo), with$70 billion of financial assets, is another major new player on the local scene.

There has also been phenomenal growth among some of the more established public companies in the city. Stantec, with a market cap of more than $1.3 billion and roughly 10,000 employees, has grown exponentially.

Canadian Western Bank, which boasts a market cap of more than $1.1 billion, was named the best-performing bank stock in North America before the financial crisis hit. After a tough 2008, its stock price has rebounded sharply this year.

And then there's Edmonton's sizable collection of major private companies, Crown corporations and other players. Most of them--from Katz Group and PCL Construction to Clark Builders, Servus Credit Union and ATB Financial--have enjoyed explosive growth over the past decade, despite the challenges of the past year or two.

Add it all up, and it's clear that Edmonton's corporate sector is alive and well. Even if one hears the occasional drip.

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Four Season is still headquartered in Toronto regardless if it is now foreign owned. The same can be said for the countless takeovers/buyouts by the Canadian banks and insurers as they expand outside our borders.
     
     
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Does HQ drain really matter?
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it doesn't really matter in the least...

at least it doesn't really matter any more than using curtain wall or real stone or brick instead of acrylic stucco. or any more than using hardie plank instead of vinyl. or any more than having decent art galleries or museums or schools. or not. or any more than having a downtown arena district instead of a 30 year old barn. or any more than being able to get direct flights to new york or chicago or london or singapore. or not.

it doesn't really matter in the least - other than in how it affects not only our self-image but in how it affects how others see us.
     
     
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Downtown Regina has more going on for it then Edmonton construction and proposal wise? WTF
     
     
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Downtown Regina has more going on for it then Edmonton construction and proposal wise? WTF
That's about all Regina has going for it
     
     
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Downtown Regina has more going on for it then Edmonton construction and proposal wise? WTF
Is this a serious statement?
     
     
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EDC Aug 18

C.1. 16:15 North LRT
City of Edmonton - Capital Construction
Brad Smid, Project Manager

C.2. 17:30 Grant MacEwan College City Centre Campus Addition
Development Permit Application #88700896-001
Stantec Architecture Ltd. - Dean Benvenuto
10700 - 104 Avenue NW
Site legally described as:
Lot 1, Block 9C, Plan 8922457

C.3. 18:30 Iris Court - Development Application Permit #87684461-001
Ron Wickman Architect - Ron Wickman
9336-107A Avenue NW; 9338-107A Avenue NW; 9346-107A Avenue NW
Site legally described as:
Lot 34, Block 19, Plan RN23; Lot 32A, Block 19, Plan 0522473;
Lot 31, Block 19, Plan RN23

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I'm loving the Mayfair but I'm afraid it will look hideous when built, like it is going to look like a classic building like it should or a cheap imitation with stucco and a bit of brick?
     
     
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An acquaintance of mine had a deposit down on a unit in Century Park Phase III, but was told that it is being "redeveloped" and so was offered the deposit back and to double the deposit up to $50k if he would buy in Phase I or II. So, he bought in Phase I.
     
     
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I'm loving the Mayfair but I'm afraid it will look hideous when built, like it is going to look like a classic building like it should or a cheap imitation with stucco and a bit of brick?
My #1 biggest fear as well. I'm not getting a good vibe from it, that's for sure. Materials used will make or break the new Mayfair proposal.
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So when is the Azur parking lot/retail set to begin? Fall? Winter? Spring? Does anybody know?
     
     
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An acquaintance of mine had a deposit down on a unit in Century Park Phase III, but was told that it is being "redeveloped" and so was offered the deposit back and to double the deposit up to $50k if he would buy in Phase I or II. So, he bought in Phase I.
Interesting... I had heard about a deal with people who had reneged on their deposit with phase I and II and you could get a unit cheap there... but didn't know they were pushing phase III people towards it. It says they have a new website coming Aug 17th, so perhaps we'll see more info then.
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One-sport store opens in Edmonton

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Friday, August 14, 2009

A store that begins and ends with hockey just seemed like a natural fit for Edmonton, says Pro Hockey Life.

The hockey megastore chain quietly opened its first Edmonton outlet Thursday with another to follow later this month.

The 22,000-square-foot store premiering at Mayfield Common differs from other sporting goods stores by selling only hockey-related equipment and memorabilia, and ignoring other sports.

It's only the second Alberta outlet for the Laval, Que.-based retailer; a store opened in Calgary's Shepard Regional Centre three weeks ago. Other stores are planned for South Edmonton Common and Cross Iron Mills in Balzac, north of Calgary.

"It's such a grassroots sport in the country and for sure in Edmonton," said Troy Foster, senior director of operations for Pro Hockey Life Sporting Goods Inc. "People really take it to heart here and live and breathe hockey.

The store says hockey, hockey, hockey even before customers step inside. They're greeted by the sound of a play-by-play broadcast of NHL playoffs over loudspeakers. Then visitors walk up a hallway mimicking a rink corridor where hockey players shuffle from dressing room to ice. From an entrance podium, customers get a view of the entire store--a design that helps customers quickly find what they're looking for, said Foster.

The store features specially designed fixtures to showcase products such as a wall of skates and a glass-enclosed shooting zone where customers can test sticks and their skills by snapping pucks at a computerized net that tracks accuracy, power and speed. You can even shoot for fun, competing virtually against customers in other stores for top marks.

Hockey pants are hung on one wall, listed by numbers that correspond to nearby bins, where customers can find the pants stored neatly.

The displays allow customers to find what they're looking for quickly but also look good, Foster said.

"We set the skate wall up, for example, so that it's like you're going into a jewelry store and each individual item in the jewelry store has a very important place in the cabinet. It's all in brick and stone, and lights are on the individual skates."

While sporting goods stores may have hockey-department salespeople, Foster says Pro Hockey Life takes it further.

Staff specialize on areas as specific as skates, apparel, sticks or goaltending gear. "It's difficult for a generalist to understand all the technologies and be able to communicate it effectively to the customer."

Pro Hockey Life is aimed at novice to elite players and even non-playing hockey fans. There's a Stanley Cupshaped room selling memorabilia for every NHL team.

Wayne Smith, who was shopping for apparel for his kids, was impressed. "It looks like they've got everything covered from one brand to the next, from high end to low end," he said. "The kids are really excited."

Pro Hockey Life and Scotiabank also announced a partnership Thursday they say will help hockey parents and players gear up for the coming hockey season by offering a 10-percent discount on store purchases using the bank's credit card.

The grand openings of the Mayfield and South Edmonton Common stores take place Aug. 27.

Founded in 1973 under the Sports Gilbert Rousseau banner in Montreal, Pro Hockey Life has 20 retail locations in Quebec, Ontario and Alberta under the Pro Hockey Life, Sports Gilbert Rousseau and Entrepot du Hockey banners.

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My #1 biggest fear as well. I'm not getting a good vibe from it, that's for sure. Materials used will make or break the new Mayfair proposal.
Under the Gov't of Alberta website for Construction projects, it lists the Mayfair of having a total construction value of $185,000,000.00 and a start date of Fall/09.
     
     
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