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Old Posted Jul 15, 2009, 7:08 PM
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I understand what you say. The problem lies in that we users do not enough to create the necessary information.


We hope that many users will join the cause.


Bienvenido Gustavo. ¿De que parte de Argentina sos?



Gracias La Nación


Clau, me dio gracia el usuario "viejomundense" en los comentarios del diario digital.

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I expect and have the hope that the advertisement and general public publication in the 'La Nación' newspaper would not bring only curious people here and amateur teenagers, but really professional ones that improve a lot the Argentina buildings information and the editions to look professional and trustible entries, updating the entries, because i still believe many buildings in Argentina are not already here nor with detailed good information with correct styles and materials, links, historical descriptions and so on. Let's see this future then.
Como sé que entiendes español, MK, te escribo en la lengua que domino (un poco mejor).
También espero lo mismo que vos, que los nuevos usuarios aporten si es que tienen ganas de hacerlo. Este es un foro libre y seguramente en algun momento sentirán la necesidad de participar más activamente.
Tal vez puedas ayudarnos y guiarnos acerca de cómo elaborar toda a información de los edificios que crees que está faltando. Sé que tenés mucha experiencia en eso y que podrías ser de gran ayuda para nosotros.
Como bien decís, veamos qué pasa en el futuro...
Te mando un beso Think about it!

Fede: no leí los comentarios, ya me voy a dar una vueltita... jejeje

EDIT: Perdón!! Ya lo había leído, es muy gracioso Fede!!!!!!!!!!!
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I expect and have the hope that the advertisement and general public publication in the 'La Nación' newspaper would not bring only curious people here and amateur teenagers, but really professional ones that improve a lot the Argentina buildings information and the editions to look professional and trustible entries, updating the entries, because i still believe many buildings in Argentina are not already here nor with detailed good information with correct styles and materials, links, historical descriptions and so on. Let's see this future then.
Risks of a wide open site like this one are that too. I'm not overplaying if I say that only a 5% of 100 new users are seriously interested in urban matters. And you're right, there's still lot of work to do, but you'd appreciate a lot what we have done if you visited the forum less than a year ago. Practically speaking, there’s no project in the country that have remained uncovered in our forum.

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Old Posted Jul 15, 2009, 8:47 PM
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Risks of a wide open site like this one are that too. I'm not overplaying if I say that only a 5% of 100 new users are seriously interested in urban matters. And you're right, there's still lot of work to do, but you'd appreciate a lot what we have done if you visited the forum less than a year ago. Practically speaking, there’s no project in the country that have remained uncovered in our forum.

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Of course, most of more important projects, i mean the tallest late ones, are very discussed in the forum, but south-america countries need a better representation of accurate illustrations and editions in SSP, this is a public catalogue to everyone and the info is like a library of consultancy with a diagram, that must be very accurate and complete. I do not know much about Argentina those recent days, but i am sure there are thousand buildings of more than 50m in Argentina, historical ones, modern ones, that deserve the representation in bldg cards in the SSP register as well, which is not seen here, this happen to the whole South America cities, only 30% is represented, if i did not miss something. This is clear. When i was editor i corrected some styles and materials of some Argentinian buildings when illustrators put a diagram day by day. Of course more good people is necessary to have a great updated representation. For example i took a ride in the Argentinian diagrams and there are 807 representation cards of all projects ever had, built or not, but i believe more than 1 million buildings of more than 35m has in the country waiting for an enthusiast to draw it. Unfortunatly i lost the position of editor, not contributing anymore... I hope answering you in a good way.

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Como sé que entiendes español, MK, te escribo en la lengua que domino (un poco mejor).
También espero lo mismo que vos, que los nuevos usuarios aporten si es que tienen ganas de hacerlo. Este es un foro libre y seguramente en algun momento sentirán la necesidad de participar más activamente.
Tal vez puedas ayudarnos y guiarnos acerca de cómo elaborar toda a información de los edificios que crees que está faltando. Sé que tenés mucha experiencia en eso y que podrías ser de gran ayuda para nosotros.
Como bien decís, veamos qué pasa en el futuro...
Te mando un beso Think about it!
Esta bien, mas respondo en ingles. This ad was good to call people interested in joining and contributing in a positive and constructive way. We hope that, cause we need more efforts done here for the registration of all south-america buildings, a very hard hobby job to do with very few people. I know, It is clear most of old buildings and structures in south-america countries are difficult to be found in the web, cause internet is much newer than the constructions, but architects, contacts, magazines can contribute also. For example i saw the city Cordoba and the diagrams, which are not more than 55 ones, most without illustrations, only 10 are illustrated, only 20% of the city, see http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=2206 but the city could have surelly more than 300 tall strutures more than 35m needing to be represented here and i know there are photographers like you contributing in showing the building appearance in web with some information like building name and address, year of completation etc. I tried to make some standards of information to be put by editors in the bldg cards, in order to minimize errors and uncompleteness here http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=149116 but none of editors followed the standarization or even tried to make the cards as complete as possible. There are descriptions about the right styles and materials for example. Facts about the structure is more difficult to be find, but at least the minimal accurate info should have. It is not difficult to follow some prerrogatives to have here a trustible register. For that we need really good people enthusiasts with talent in doing the diagrams, with a hobby free time, it is a good hobby to do, with less money to spend, which i hope this call contributes for that. Anyway i am here to help. If someone needs some orientation or have questions i am daily at PM or MSN to answer, you know that, to help. I hope Argentina would have a great complete illustrated diagram soon after this ad call with new active illustrators and editors..

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Old Posted Jul 15, 2009, 9:14 PM
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Addressing the issue of the diagrams.

I just finished one of the first skyscrapers in the city of Rosario.

The Minetti Palace (Palacio Minetti). It has 58 meters of height
I hope that the approbation and also sent a more detailed information about the building to the editor Gert510.



If you're interested, I recommend these links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacio_Minetti

http://www.rosario.gov.ar/sitio/lugaresVisual/verOpcionPatrimonio.do?id=463&idLugar=1885


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Federg, i saw this building, really a good start. And i saw that probably LMich from the Approval Committee deleted it. But i recommend you continue trying until you get the feeling. Try beginning with easier ones, block '60 years common blds. This is an art-deco building, with very beautiful details, hard to do in first attempt. Please see why are the reasons why AC deleted it and do not lose your patience, continue trying. I know that AC subjective decisions are sometimes hard to understand, but keep trying. Of course the bldg card http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=65380 of this one requires much more detailed information you had found, taken from the links you gave. If i would have been editor already i would do the edition with the most complete and accurate info as possible but the adm retired me. I hope the editor you asked do. He is not so active like i was, but he is one of the last Argentinian ones doing all in Argentina, we have to comprehend also and understand is not easy to follow all. Be patience and keep trying. The beginning is really hard but keep doing.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2009, 9:50 PM
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I'm trying to advise and contribute editor Gert510 with respect the city of Rosario.

We'll see do the rest of the city.

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Buenas gente, soy un expat del viejo SCC, bah tengo la doble ciudadanía ahora... sin embargo vine acá porque estaba muriendo de embole allá, realmente se tornó soporífero, de un día para otro ví que se fue una banda de gente y siempre me pregunté dónde coño estaban!!! Hoy, viendo LN me acordé que existía SCP y al pasar y encontrarlos vine directo a tramitar il passaporto jajaja, espero que se mantenga la buena onda que otrora había por allá.

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Buenas gente, soy un expat del viejo SCC, bah tengo la doble ciudadanía ahora... sin embargo vine acá porque estaba muriendo de embole allá, realmente se tornó soporífero, de un día para otro ví que se fue una banda de gente y siempre me pregunté dónde coño estaban!!! Hoy, viendo LN me acordé que existía SCP y al pasar y encontrarlos vine directo a tramitar il passaporto jajaja, espero que se mantenga la buena onda que otrora había por allá.

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Jejejee, a mi me paso lo mismo. Siempre me preguntaba...donde se fueron todos????
Espero volver a delitarme con comentarios y fotografías de verdaderos "expertos".
Un saludo a todos.

Gracias federg, soy de Olivos, Buenos Aires pero estoy viviendo en España.
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I expect and have the hope that the advertisement and general public publication in the 'La Nación' newspaper would not bring only curious people here and amateur teenagers, but really professional ones that improve a lot the Argentina buildings information and the editions to look professional and trustible entries, updating the entries, because i still believe many buildings in Argentina are not already here nor with detailed good information with correct styles and materials, links, historical descriptions and so on. Let's see this future then.

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Risks of a wide open site like this one are that too. I'm not overplaying if I say that only a 5% of 100 new users are seriously interested in urban matters. And you're right, there's still lot of work to do, but you'd appreciate a lot what we have done if you visited the forum less than a year ago. Practically speaking, there’s no project in the country that have remained uncovered in our forum.

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Indeed. You should've seen this forum a year ago MKmillenium. There were only ghosts and spam prowling around. I believe we've done an excellent job since the new forumers and moderator took this forum over.
The number of the project covered are being increased monthly and the urban photo galleries are well detailed.
There is no doubt that we have improve this forum a lot and the differences are significant. But, still I do agree with you that we may do more. There is always aspects to improve but I'm confident that the way to make this forum better is with everyone's help, whether they are amateur or not.

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Indeed. You should've seen this forum a year ago MKmillenium. There were only ghosts and spam prowling around. I believe we've done an excellent job since the new forumers and moderator took this forum over.
The number of the project covered are being increased monthly and the urban photo galleries are well detailed.
There is no doubt that we have improve this forum a lot and the differences are significant. But, still I do agree with you that we may do more. There is always aspects to improve but I'm confident that the way to make this forum better is with everyone's help, whether they are amateur or not.

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Exactly, The Argentinian section today in SSP is the most or the only one country very active and dynamic among all countries of South america. There is no other country with so many members participating in comparision. And this section in SSP is very professional and organised today. Congratulations for reaching such position of making so many Argentinian enthusiasts participating with huge interest.

In comparing, although Argentina is not the most big territorial and populated country in south America to attract people in conditions to use a little bit of time appreciating this architecture hobby, but it is the most representative here, I would say a minimal of 70% of south-america people in SSP is from Argentina. Other smaller countries and the biggest country Brazil has no same high good participation and organization. They prefer participating writting in SSC because maybe of time, majority interest or cultural reasons.

My conclusions are that maybe in Argentina people approach fits better to architectural enthusiasmus here, but i do not know if this is a question of cultural or language reasons, even when here most are in spanish written.
I am out of following the development of this section but i notice that the Brazilian one is since long time stagnated, to give an example, i don't know why from an administrative reason and also that the other smaller South Americas countries almost do not exist here. Even that diagram of those south-america countries are rarely reviewed or included by enthusiasts. It means a good start has for South-America, but a huge job is still necessary to be done.

Congratulations for the great one year work in development participation of the section Argentina and the serious approach. It had really an excellent job here from moderators and participants.

I can not see the statistical numbers of forum south-american participants, but this is my feeling.

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Hola a todos, me entere de este lugar por La Nacion tambien. Me llamo Maxi, soy de cipolletti aunque estudio abogacia en Capital. Cuando sepa como subiir alguna foto la subiire pero tdv no me puse a averiiguar como es todo esto bien bien... quiero salir a tomar algunas fotos de ciipo y compartirlas con ustedes, les mando un saludo a todos, buen finde.
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Harías un gran aporte al foro porque de Cipolletti no tenemos ningún hilo.
Abrite uno en la portada. Dentro de un rato te subo un tutorial para subir fotos.
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