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Old Posted Apr 28, 2008, 8:18 PM
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Can you explain the weight and balance issue. I'm really unsure how this works. A plane can carry x amount of passengers and x weight of cargo. The airline calculates what the maximum weight of each passengers luggage can be based on that don't they? It seems really awkward that people have to look at which aircraft they will fly on to make sure their bags get to their destination with them.

Not that United ever has great prices to Europe via ORD (unleast from my research, NW and AC easily beat them) but this becomes a factor if you're connecting to some far off place and you have to worry about your bags not making it.
Others can probably do a much better job at this than I can but I will give it a stab.

Basically all aircraft can carry a maximum amount of weight, and this includes not only passengers and bags but also the weight of the plane itself and the weight of the fuel. The further a plane flies the more fuel it has to carry which is extra weight.

Anyhow based on how far the plane is flying, what route it is taking, what the winds aloft will be, and how many passengers are expected the airline will figure out how much fuel etc will be needed. They can then estimate the actual weight of the aircraft and whether or not they can fly that route given these conditions. Temperature, runway length etc will all be factored in to see if the plane can even take off (that is why you might see weight restrictions on hot days at airports at higher elevations). Anyhow, they use a standard weight for passengers and probably do the same with bags. When a plane is loaded, the passengers and cargo must be loaded so that the centre of gravity of the plane is within acceptable limits. That is the balance part.

Now imagine all of a sudden that everyone shows up with bulky baggage (maybe hockey bags or something), and also another 20 people will be on the flight than was originally thought. With the extra people and all the bulky and heavy baggage, they may not be able to load everything into the cargo holds, and even if they did things may not be balanced properly (maybe the weight is going to be too far forward or too far back). In order to be able to safely fly the plane they will need to leave some baggage behind so the plan can stay not only within it's weight limit, but also keep the load balanced properly within the plane.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2008, 9:00 PM
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Thanks for the explanations.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2008, 9:01 PM
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do we have any more word on the hotel and terminal expansion as of yet?
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The only true way to avoid your bag being bumped as little as possible is to travel on a business class ticket.
Or just don't take any check-in luggage with you.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2008, 11:07 PM
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Found a coolwebsite on the web - www.insidetrip.com

It allows you to plan your trips based on such factors as plane type,comfort, speed and ease.

A beta site - it it quite interesting for comparison purposes.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2008, 2:25 AM
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do we have any more word on the hotel and terminal expansion as of yet?
I flew back on sunday and noticed that the apron is underway. stripping and grading.. hotel, nothing. staff parking was suppose to be relocated on the 15th but I guess the snow delayed things.
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I flew back on sunday and noticed that the apron is underway. stripping and grading.. hotel, nothing. staff parking was suppose to be relocated on the 15th but I guess the snow delayed things.
Yea, I noticed that there is alot of iron on site for the apron.

And yes, the snow more than likely delayed the relocation.
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[QUOTE=Rocket252;3516657]Found a coolwebsite on the web - www.insidetrip.com

It allows you to plan your trips based on such factors as plane type,comfort, speed and ease.


hmmm...YEG to YYZ is 7 hours plus...yup beta site...
     
     
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Found a coolwebsite on the web - www.insidetrip.com

It allows you to plan your trips based on such factors as plane type,comfort, speed and ease.


hmmm...YEG to YYZ is 7 hours plus...yup beta site...
The results you get for this route go from the normal 4 hour non stop flight to 1-2 stop connections through various locations. They are assigned various ratings from on a scale of 1-100.

If you try a more exotic location such as one in Africa for example you find a number of different options that result.

an interesting tool.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2008, 12:28 AM
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The results you get for this route go from the normal 4 hour non stop flight to 1-2 stop connections through various locations. They are assigned various ratings from on a scale of 1-100.

If you try a more exotic location such as one in Africa for example you find a number of different options that result.

an interesting tool.
In Europe..Easyjet, Ryanair, Vueling, German Wings and most eevry other discount airline not part of their search...and these do more traffic than mainliners....and to boot...non-stop feature not working. Likes like Opodo is running this site...as little info is provided as to actually "WHO" is behind it....
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2008, 3:52 AM
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From the City of Calgary website. Looks like a huge hotel complex planned to the North of CYYC. 520 rooms total I believe, 3 Hilton brands. Any word or updates on the Courtyard Marriot planned for CYEG? It would be nice to see some updated plans.



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^ Yeah, that Courtyard by Marriott better not come out looking like crap!
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2008, 1:48 PM
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I still think it is odd that they are using a Courtyard at YEG. Why not a Marriott? If you stay at an airport you expect to pay higher and I higher quality hotel. Not just a run of the mill business hotel....
     
     
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I still think it is odd that they are using a Courtyard at YEG. Why not a Marriott? If you stay at an airport you expect to pay higher and I higher quality hotel. Not just a run of the mill business hotel....
Courtyard Ms are pretty nice! Unless I am somewhere for a conference with a 'conference hotel' I prefer the secondary brands. Usually free internet, most of the rooms have separate bedrooms so you can more easily host small gatherings in your room, or do work.

Courtyard Ms aren't some low level holiday inn express! You will still have a full lounge and restaurant, pool, fitness, and some smaller sized meeting rooms.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2008, 3:41 PM
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Their your typical business hotel such as Hilton Garden Inn.... They are nice don't get me wrong, but they aren't what airports usually claim as their primary airport hotel...then again maybe for Edmonton's size and type of business traveller it is the right fit.
     
     
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^bingo. If you put a Fairmont there it would still do ok, but that isnt our typical flyer.
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#1.. Courtyard Marriots are way nicer than the low end Hiltons

#2.. It won't be the 'primary' airport hotel, it'll be the only one.

#3.. It'll be much nicer than the selection of Super 8's and Best Westerns just down the road in Nisku

#4.. "type" of business traveler ? Who the fuck do you think you are ?
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A Courtyard Marriot is precisely the sort of hotel I'd expect at an airport like YEG. It's precisely the sort of hotel I'd expect at almost any airport anywhere. Vancouver or Toronto are hardly the norm - they have dozens of airport hotels ranging from Quality Inns to Hiltons or Fairmonts.
     
     
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does anyone know when the Starbucks is opening at YEG in US departures?
     
     
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does anyone know when the Starbucks is opening at YEG in US departures?
Soon I would imagine. It was well underway when I went through there 2 weeks ago.
     
     
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