YEG - Edmonton Int Airport

[zooter]

flew in to YEG yesterday early morning (sunday) and it was packed... a very good sign...the new expansion will really help but the arrivals area could definitely use some upgrading...another thing i always notice...i guess this is outside of the airport land but the on-ramp from highway 2, the bridge and off ramp to highway 2 are in pathetic condition...gravel/sand everywhere and the bridge is in bad condition...can the airport do anything to make this look better? just think how many visitiors, tourists and business people have travelled this road and what their impressions are?

[Coldrsx]

^perhaps they can do that when they add lights from the city edge to YEG...something i cannot understand why it is not done.

[oilfan]

I fly United to DEN and ORD on UA quite often. I've almost never been on a flight that isn't 90%+ full.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by LO 044

I've never been lucky enough to stay at an airport hotel. For me anyways, it would be interesting to see airliners landing outside my hotel window. But i've always wondered, is a there a specific sound barrier insulation used for airport hotels? I'm assuming there is since not everyone likes to be woken up by a jet engine. Has anyone out there had experiences staying in an airport hotel? Just curious.

On a seperate topic, i'm wondering how YEG will cope with the competition / high fuel prices / consolidation faced by US airlines. Everyday it seems the stories come out about US airlines cutting even more routes. I hope that because of Alberta's above average economy, we won't be affected too much. Has anyone out there flown on Northwest, United, Horizon, Delta, etc. where it seemed that the flight was fairly empty?

I have stayed at the Delta in Calgary and all the rooms that face towards the airport look onto an atrium that is used as a sound barrier. The Sheraton at T3 in Toronto didn't seem to have anything special really. It all depends on quality of the design and materials to bring down the noise level. Smaller windows, all concrete, no individual outside air return per room.

As for the flights, I think it should be fine. It would be different if all the different airline alliances had partners in Canada. If that was true I could see service shifted to Vancouver but that is not the case. As the airlines get more deliveries of E-Jets, and the 700, 900, 1000 series CRJ it is possible more flights will be shifted to those.

In a downturn, I think one of the largest questions is Alberta's London connections. Consumer confidence is way down in the UK, and debt is at record levels. With their housing boom going flat, due to the global credit crunch Briton's might decide to not travel as far afield. But what I don't know is this: How much of those flights are Briton's vs Canadians?

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^perhaps they can do that when they add lights from the city edge to YEG...something i cannot understand why it is not done.

Because probably at one point in time there was a study that found that lighting highways contributed marginally to safety when there isn't tightly spaced interactions (lots of merges or weaves). If you want lights for a different reason, either make it a political issue, or find some research that shows it is a safety issue.

I can understand why you want lights to the airport, to create a perception of continuity from the airport to the city, to show that the airport was not a mistake and isn't doomed by being far out.

The question is, can you find another reason that would sell it in the public eye that would justify the serious one time and continuous expense.

[Coldrsx]

^YVR Fairmont has amazing insulation/glass that made meetings in their runway facing boardrooms as quiet as any downtown one.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by kyle_olsen

Because probably at one point in time there was a study that found that lighting highways contributed marginally to safety when there isn't tightly spaced interactions (lots of merges or weaves). If you want lights for a different reason, either make it a political issue, or find some research that shows it is a safety issue.

I can understand why you want lights to the airport, to create a perception of continuity from the airport to the city, to show that the airport was not a mistake and isn't doomed by being far out.

The question is, can you find another reason that would sell it in the public eye that would justify the serious one time and continuous expense.

all of the above.

Safety
perception

[Rocket252]

Also annex Leduc

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

all of the above.

Safety
perception

Are there many crashes on that section of road, or rather a statistically significant higher amount of crashes than on a lighted section of comparable road?

Until there is data, there won't be action.

The province won't do something like this on hearsay, unless there is huge public pressure.

Also, lighting a big section of prairie like you want isn't very green

[Coldrsx]

^it is far more about perception...but given the amount of traffic from AHD to nisku/YEG at dark hours, i would think it would be prudent to light er up/.

[craneSpotter]

Originally Posted by LO 044

I've never been lucky enough to stay at an airport hotel. For me anyways, it would be interesting to see airliners landing outside my hotel window. But i've always wondered, is a there a specific sound barrier insulation used for airport hotels? I'm assuming there is since not everyone likes to be woken up by a jet engine. Has anyone out there had experiences staying in an airport hotel? Just curious.

Sure. I've stayed at the Fairmont Vancouver Airport several times, which is connected directly to YVR's international terminal. I always get a airside room. The floor to ceiling extra-thick glass is almost completely soundproof. All you can hear is a faint rumble when a jet powers up to taxi. Nothing that would even catch your attention let alone wake you.

I've stayed at many airport AREA hotels (not connected to the terminals and off airport land) at various cities which are much louder when aircraft fly by.

Here's the only photo I've ever taken from an airside room (it's a bit old) at this most excellent hotel:



the hotel:

[CanadianCentaur]

I've only stayed at the Sheraton at T3 at YYZ as far as airport hoteals are concerned. But the hotel was undergoing renos ar the time (in July '03), so there was construction noise loud enough to cause vibrations in my room.

As for the construction of the new Courtyard by Marriott hotel at YEG actually getting started on April, I'll take an "I'll believe it when I see it" approach to this. I know I'm being cynical on this one, but there's still this labour shortage and there's probably a lot of developers who can't even find contractors for quite a while.

[LO 044]

Originally Posted by CanadianCentaur

...and there's probably a lot of developers who can't even find contractors for quite a while.

I think this is slowly changing at least in my industry. There are developers who are holding off on projects this year due to high prices from contractors. This year is also the first in a while where contractors are not given projects based on doing similar projects previously with the same developer. Let's just say the contractors are not happy since they might have to compete with other contractors again.

[Coldrsx]

^same things i am hearing...

[rapid_business]

Construction trades as well? (i.e. residential) Great news all around.

[Coldrsx]

yes

[Coldrsx]

Hi Port Alberta...


Fiberex lands $100M Saudi job
Journal Business Writer, edmontonjournal.com
Published: 1:18 pm
EDMONTON - Fiberex Glass Corp. has landed a $100-million order to help build a new counterpart to its Leduc factory in Saudi Arabia's industrial city of Jubail.

Work is beginning on a 30-month contract to provide engineering, technology and equipment for the project by Eastern Petrochemical Co., Fiberex chief executive Fred Atiq said Tuesday.

The deal will create 60 to 70 Edmonton-area jobs in fields from engineering to worker training as the new Saudi factory is designed and built for a total of $280 million, Atiq predicted in an interview.


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Font:****Initially the new employment will be shared with specialized subcontractors, but Fiberex plans to develop a project staff of its own by winning more orders to work on building new factories, he said.

"We currently have almost $1 billion in contracts in various stages of negotiation primarily in the Middle East, North Africa, former Russian states and Eastern Europe."

Ottawa's Export Development Corp. is supporting Fiberex's role in the Saudi project by backing performance bonds for the Alberta firm.

The new factory will serve large international markets for glass fibre, which is used to manufacture such products as cars, boats, corrosion-resistant pipelines and industrial storage tanks.

Low costs of electricity, a key ingredient in the manufacturing process, make Saudi Arabia an especially attractive location for the new factory, said Atiq.

Formerly lower Alberta power prices originally lured Fiberex to Leduc but cost increases since provincial electricity deregulation prompted the firm to start looking for international ventures, he said.




© Edmonton Journal 2008

[CMD UW]

Originally Posted by onishenko

Construction trades as well? (i.e. residential) Great news all around.

Yes, all contractors, may it be underground, surface, etc. The iron is there and manpower available for work. Put it this way, a quote that was provided in January has more than likely decreased if quoted again today.

[Jasper and one o nin]

Mayor out to spread the word
Mandel taking trip to Europe in hopes of attracting skilled workers to Edmonton
GORDON KENT
EDMONTON
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Mayor Stephen Mandel leaves today on an eight-day trip to Central and Eastern Europe he hopes will make it easier to attract workers for the local economy.


“It’s to solidify some ties in Europe with Edmonton, so we not only have opportunities for trade, but also recruiting labour,” he said.


“The mayor brings a certain … amount of cachet to the program, so people start to think of Edmonton as really a strong opportunity for them.”


Mandel is starting in the Czech Republic cities of Prague and Liberec, where he’ll tour a nanotechnology research centre, before heading to Wroclaw and Warsaw in Poland and the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv.


He wants to raise Edmonton’s profile in hopes that skilled workers such as nurses, engineers and tradespeople will consider moving to the city.


“It’s not like we’re not short of everyone here … our main thrust is to get the name Edmonton out in these areas so when our recruiters go out there they will know what Edmonton is.”


The trip, which will cost about $10,000, is Mandel’s first mission to the region as mayor. He has gone to London, the United States and China, to which he’s thinking of returning in June.


In Warsaw, he’ll join people from Edmonton Airports when they meet staff from LOT Polish Airlines to discuss resuming direct flights between Warsaw and Edmonton, airport spokeswoman Traci Bednard said.

This link was dropped due to the financial challenges that affected the airline industry following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, she said.


“It would connect us to that region and there was good interest in it in the past.”


The airport authority and the Edmonton Economic Development Corp., which is taking part in the tour along with businesses and other organizations, are also stopping in London to promote the city and Air Canada’s London-Edmonton service, Bednard said.

Mandel, who returns April 5, will meet in Kyiv with Canada’s ambassador to Ukraine and staff at the country’s foreign ministry to discuss plans to open a consulate in Edmonton.


Edmonton East MP Peter Goldring said in a news release last month the office will be ready by the end of the year and that Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier has instructed his staff to work on it with Ukrainian officials.


It would be Canada’s only Ukrainian consulate west of Toronto.


A spokesperson at the Ukrainian embassy in Ottawa couldn’t be reached for comment.

[Coldrsx]

LOT please come back...