Saskatoon Construction

[stvn44]

Hey everyone, newbie here. I've been lurking here for quite some time now so I thought it was time to finnaly join in.

Originally Posted by SASKFTW

Hmmmmmm...."130,000-square-foot office component will feature two five-storey towers", I am sure the office component was restricted to like 45,000 sq feet, nothing near 130,000...I bet they are using the site they purchased from Remai to build a 5 storey office building/

Just out of curiousty where is this other 'site?'

[Ruckus]

Originally Posted by stvn44

Hey everyone, newbie here. I've been lurking here for quite some time now so I thought it was time to finnaly join in.



Just out of curiousty where is this other 'site?'

The other site is where the Legion Hall once stood.

Originally, Remai bought the property and then proceeded to demolish it. Just recently(Jan or Feb of 2008) Remai sold the property to Lake Placid, which city officials suggested could be worked into the overall site development. Lake Placid won't leave the site empty that is for certain.

Lake Placid owns the following sites:
Red - Legion property - nothing is currently proposed for it, only that it could be worked into the overall development.
Blue - Proposed location and arrangement of hotel (left), condos (right), office (center).

[stvn44]

Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me. Hopefully with that peice of land they can add an other entrance way to the elevated plaza to increase access.

[Ruckus]

Originally Posted by stvn44

Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me. Hopefully with that peice of land they can add an other entrance way to the elevated plaza to increase access.

I am sure it will have an entrance, but expect additional development (office building or other) to built on the Legion site. I don't think there are any restrictions (land use or height) for that site, can anyone confirm that?

[macca]

I believe the height restriction is 20 stories.

[Ruckus]

Originally Posted by macca

I believe the height restriction is 20 stories.

Correct you are, I must have been thinking of something else.

Ignore the red scribble...


More on DCD1 guidelines can be find here.

Linkage and Land Use

Use of Land
The only permitted uses in the DCD1 are those listed in the following table: Uses for the
DCD1. The guidelines set out in the table establish further controls on the permitted
uses.

Table 1 – Uses and Facilities for the DCD1 Area

Offices will be limited to 50,000 square
feet in gross floor area, and located above
the first floor where possible.

Source - Page 4/8

So how can Lake Placid develop a "130,000-square-foot office component will feature two five-storey towers" as reported by the Calgary Herald? Perhaps the city modified the restrictions? or the Calgary article is not accurate?

Maybe it is neither...

By building two five storey towers, Lake Placid could max out the 50,000 sq foot restriction for each tower and leave the ground floor as retail/restaurant which accounts for an additional 30,000 sq feet or 15,000 sq feet for each tower.

Hmmm, I don't know what to make of all this. In some ways it is good for the site and downtown, but I can't help but feel led on by the realtors who made an announcement of one maybe two office towers for Saskatoon and we are left thinking that this refers to two towers at 5 storeys a piece...what kind of claim is that. I suppose a lesson learned, anything hinted should be met with skepticism...maybe there's a 30 storey tower in the works, but perhaps it is located near the airport!

Another question to consider, the realtor previously stated the construction of one or two office buildings would justify an increase in downtown office lease rates, can that also be said for the construction of two 5 storey office towers, total of 100,000 sq feet?

[Ruckus]

Or maybe I read wrong, and assumed too much.

[midnightrambler]

In all likelihood the story is inaccurate on the finite details. I wouldn't look to deep into the office tower component of the River Landing project, I think it is more likely that the office tower rumor refers to something larger.

When I look at the Rivier Landing site and drawings, it seems to me that they needed the Legion land for the project the way it is. That is to say the original plan 1 - 8 Storey Hotel 1 -20 Storey Residential and 1 - 5? storey office tower. The legion land just lends to the original plan....but maybe I'm wrong.

I thought for developments to actually be a "tower" they needed to be over 14 Storeys... but maybe I'm wrong

Actually I searched define: skyscraper and the results claimed that it was a building of 100m.

Heh, so I guess we are still waiting for one

[macca]

Lake Placid Eager To Begin Construction
Wednesday, 12 March 2008
Between 175 to 200 million dollars is the approximate cost of the new project to be built on a piece of River Landing by Lake Placid Investments.



The area will house first class retail and dining amenities, hotel and condo's along with a fitness facility.

CEO of Lake Placid Michael Lobsinger who was speaking at the 14th Annual Traders Luncheon, says he would like to have everything operational by December, but it will take from 30 to 34 months to actually complete once the shovels begin digging.

As far as that goes, Lobsinger says he would like to start digging within the next 60 days but if he decides to expand on the original proposal he would likely have to get a height approval, which could take an additional 60 days.

__________________________________

This really leaves us with more questions than answers.

[studentview]

Mike Lobsinger in my mind is the man we need to get our city back to par with the other real estate leaders of country. I had the priviledge to hear him speak at noon today and the guy has passion. He almost lit up upon talking about his design and what it would mean to the downtown, the city and the province. He wanted to design it after rockafella center because he wanted all the people that have left saskatchewan for places like new york and toronto to return home and have a plaza to call home, to call work and to call play. The base, from where you view the building will be made of saskatchewan river bed stone and he invisioned the complex to appear as it had "risen from the water" that it was part of the natural river envornment. Lets all hope as he is, that this will spur massive new investments to the downtown. He poked fun at his two sons a lot, which was pretty funny, they bothwork for him so they too could be presented saskatoon with another proposal 20-30 years down the road as he did today. A couple more notes were that he has 350 applicants for condos already and that he has a inbox full of hate mail from people not wanting him to do this. Its crazy how you can still get those nay sayers who dont want change anytime anywhere anytime soon! Lets hope the shovels hit the ground soon!

[Ruckus]

Originally Posted by macca

Lake Placid Eager To Begin Construction
Wednesday, 12 March 2008
Between 175 to 200 million dollars is the approximate cost of the new project to be built on a piece of River Landing by Lake Placid Investments.



The area will house first class retail and dining amenities, hotel and condo's along with a fitness facility.

CEO of Lake Placid Michael Lobsinger who was speaking at the 14th Annual Traders Luncheon, says he would like to have everything operational by December, but it will take from 30 to 34 months to actually complete once the shovels begin digging.

As far as that goes, Lobsinger says he would like to start digging within the next 60 days but if he decides to expand on the original proposal he would likely have to get a height approval, which could take an additional 60 days.

__________________________________

This really leaves us with more questions than answers.

Expand on the original proposal, height approval...ummm, that must be in reference to the Legion site right? Either height approval means to build under current height restrictions, or height approval means approval to go beyond current height restrictions.

More questions than answers.

[swilley]

^^ Height approval?? interesting.....

[Ruckus]

Not sure where else to throw this, but it appears CtrlAltDel has been up to his old tricks again

Fantasy Proposal - Miami's Axxis towers in Saskatoon


Source - Calgary Future Skyline Renderings

[stvn44]

Thats awsome one can only dream... The River Landing one looks good too.

[Ruckus]

CTV did a piece on River Landing this evening, apparently the height approval was related to a potential height increase for the hotel. CTV also displayed new illustrations of River Landing and it appears an office segment (5 storeys) has been attached to the condo segment via the former Legion site, pedestrian access to the central gathering place/wading pool/skating pond remains.

Looks good

[Chaps]

Originally Posted by midnightrambler

In all likelihood the story is inaccurate on the finite details. I wouldn't look to deep into the office tower component of the River Landing project, I think it is more likely that the office tower rumor refers to something larger.

When I look at the Rivier Landing site and drawings, it seems to me that they needed the Legion land for the project the way it is. That is to say the original plan 1 - 8 Storey Hotel 1 -20 Storey Residential and 1 - 5? storey office tower. The legion land just lends to the original plan....but maybe I'm wrong.

I thought for developments to actually be a "tower" they needed to be over 14 Storeys... but maybe I'm wrong

Actually I searched define: skyscraper and the results claimed that it was a building of 100m.

Heh, so I guess we are still waiting for one

I seem to recall 12 storey's, but I'm sure there are multiple definitions. I'm not sure there is an official worldwide standard.

[stvn44]

Originally Posted by SASKFTW

CTV did a piece on River Landing this evening, apparently the height approval was related to a potential height increase for the hotel. CTV also displayed new illustrations of River Landing and it appears an office segment (5 storeys) has been attached to the condo segment via the former Legion site, pedestrian access remains between the hotel and office.

Looks good

Darn I wish I would've seen it... did show the hight increase for the hotel? If so by how many stories? Hopefully Lake Placid will release the new illustrations on their website soon.

[Ruckus]

Originally Posted by stvn44

Darn I wish I would've seen it... did show the hight increase for the hotel? If so by how many stories? Hopefully Lake Placid will release the new illustrations on their website soon.

The hotel looked about the same at 8 stories.

More questions

How many more storeys do they want to add? How many more hotel rooms can our market absorb? How much higher would the city allow them to go?

[Ruckus]

We need to post an image up in here to visualize contextually, courtesy of CtrlAltDel



Source - Calgary Future Skyline Renderings

[joelpiecowye]

i took some photos today, just have to edit them, should be up soon