YEG - Edmonton Int Airport

[KrisYYC]

Originally Posted by Rocket252

Just don't get it KrisYCC?

Too bad.

Edmonchuck's comments are bang on.

No, I do get it. Edmonchuck makes good points, and there are some legitimate beefs, but this 2008, not 1990.

Regardless of what you guys think, AC is keeping an eye on YEG. There will be some more flights. Just give it time. You can't expect a new overseas flight from one airline every 6 months.

Why are you guys only ragging on AC? What about LH? BA? AF? KL?

[tuffyy]

I think some of the bitterness (if it can be called that) comes from some of the interesting things that AC has done.One example was when Martinair wanted scheduled authority on the AMS-YEG-YYC-AMS route and who blocked it?AC, over a route that they dont even serve...A little misunderstanding to those who dont fully understand the buisness can be made to look bad fairly quickly.

Everyone as krisyyc says be patient, sometimes its worth it...

[CMD UW]

I have faith in you tuffy....I do and I'll be patient.

[rapid_business]

/\ ditto.

[Edmonchuck]

Originally Posted by tuffyy

...A little misunderstanding to those who dont fully understand the buisness can be made to look bad fairly quickly.

hence my "bad PR" comment.

There are a few others.

[Edmonchuck]

Originally Posted by KrisYYC

How was my comment childish? How is AC not operating in a free market? There's no laws that say only AC can be the biggest, and that only AC can fly overseas etc. etc.

There is a law that forces AC to have french on every flight (no other carrier is required this) and the same law also forces AC to keep its HQ in Montreal. It's called the Air
Canada act.



AC does not hate YEG. They do not ignore YEG. Their business plan is different, and even with that AC will expand their presence at YEG. Just be patient

Yeah, gotta love the Air Canada legislation - kinda like CN. Really really stupid. Let it be where it wants to be. That is one of many things I could cite where the Feds wanted to keep the former flag carrier #1 and did a few things to help kill CAI, Greyhound, etc. It is where I could take some exception with the "free market"' veil of years past, including cabotage games. However, that is water well under the bridge and this is 2008.

AC doesn't ignore YEG post say 2003. Prior to, I'd argue with you.

It is their business plan, and yes, it is concentrated in what they've built and invested in, and that is YYC in the prairies.

As for the other airlines you quote, they are people that currently cannot service YEG outside BA. However, without OneWorld connections, I don't expect BA in YEG anytime soon outside the odd medical emerg.

[Ponza]

Originally Posted by KrisYYC

How was my comment childish? How is AC not operating in a free market? There's no laws that say only AC can be the biggest, and that only AC can fly overseas etc. etc.

There is a law that forces AC to have french on every flight (no other carrier is required this) and the same law also forces AC to keep its HQ in Montreal. It's called the Air
Canada act.

How exactly does Westjet respect YEG more than AC does? Who is the larger carrier at YEG? AC.
Westjet may offer more point to point service from YEG and that's great. That's part of their business plan. AC's business plan is different. It doesn't mean they have a hate on for YEGers. Even then, you said Westjet flies when the numbers justify it. No kidding, so does AC. The LHR flight is proof of that.

How does AC try to stop competition other than lowering fares to compete? (which every business on the face of the earth does in a free market, it's called protecting market share)

AC does not hate YEG. They do not ignore YEG. Their business plan is different, and even with that AC will expand their presence at YEG. Just be patient

Other air carriers are not free to come into Canada and provide any service they want. They need approval which AC will fight if it hurts any of their existing routes. I am not blaming them for doing this. My company does the same in the Telecom industry.

You're comments are childish in that you don't seem to be able to understand why this upsets people when it results in them getting the short end of the stick. In terms of where we are today and the service AC provides YEG I call it very average but much better than where it was even 5 years ago.

Personally I fly with AC when they can provide me with the best possible option which is a combination of flight options, price, and service. And while I try to avoid YYC as much as possible I will still connect via YYC is that is my best option.

I agree with you that a call to not fly via AC out of YEG will not help our cause.

[Bigtime]

In the summer of '05 I connected through YEG on my way back to YYC. I just wanted to let you guys know that, do I get any props?

In all honesty though part of the reason was to fly a Dash 8 again, it had been so long I jumped at the chance.

Edit: Hmm, I'm asking about props while mentioning I flew through YEG to fly on a prop. Awesome.

[Edmonchuck]

HAHAHA...the drone of a prop....rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Next you're going to quote the sound effect of a DC-3 on a DC-8 in Airplane!

[tuffyy]

~My senses are tingiling~

A rather large announcement is on the way.

Let the guessing game begin...

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by tuffyy

~My senses are tingiling~

A rather large announcement is on the way.

Let the guessing game begin...

well...considering the ERAA terminal/port alberta/airlinks/hotel was one the way for Q1....perhaps?

although i would like to hear:

- FRA
- JAL to osaka
- NYC
- Houston/dallas
- Mexico city yr round

oh and maybe...

-2nd hotel + casino

[rapid_business]

We need to go back a couple pages and pull out some of the ridiculous (or ridiculously awesome!) guesses. All good fun.

[Edmonchuck]

Originally Posted by tuffyy

~My senses are tingiling~

Note to tuffy.

TB spiked the Kool-Aid. That explains the tingle in the senses.


Otherwise GAME ON!

[tuffyy]

That was what that blue stuff on friday was...

Still a little ''off'' from that night.

[Jasper and one o nin]

okay okay, ive been thinking about this. I have NO idea, but I suspect this announcement will be for new service, obviously, and tied to Cargo. Some Asian airlines provide passenger service to Anchorage, and the only reason why, in my mind is due to cargo. Anchorage is strategically located between chinese points and memphis. And so is Edmonton. With Port Alberta, it may make more sense for these carriers to move from ANC to YEG. China Air flies to ANC and then transfers to a number of US points (cargo). Offering a good location for the movement of air cargo. Edmonton is located on the same flight line, but has an advantage with rail, and highways.
My quess is two routes with chinese and maybe japanese carriers - offering connections through codesharing or airline partners or whatever. This would bring some US route on board as well.

[Kevin_foster]

While you are thinking about a big announcement, you have to check this out... thought of you airport/airplane nuts when I saw it

http://www.gillesvidal.com/blogpano/cockpit1.htm

Pretty... jaw dropping.

[rapid_business]

/\ just saw that on digg. pretty crazy.

[IKAN104]

Cool. Looks like they have a camera on the tail overlooking the rest of the plane. Do other airliners have that?

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by IKAN104

Cool. Looks like they have a camera on the tail overlooking the rest of the plane. Do other airliners have that?

If I recall correctly I'm pretty sure the A340-600 series has the tail mounted camera to help with taxiing since the a/c is so
long.

Maybe the 777-300 as well?

[Jasper and one o nin]

Apparently, passengers can see this view as well...
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=ht...rls%3DGGLG,GGLG:2006-09,GGLG:en%26sa%3DN