YEG - Edmonton Int Airport - Page 32

Coldrsx · #**621** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 3:38 PM**

ExcaliburKid · #**622** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 3:44 PM**

^And when can we expect this? Cause we needed it yesterday!

Coldrsx · #**623** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 3:48 PM**

we better have a significant amount of the terminal side of this within 5yrs.

4unot2no · #**624** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 9:01 PM**

I was reading EIA website that edmonton has the 6th largest catchment area of all canadian cities for a total of 1.2 million people within 160 within 160KM radius of edmonton.

So my question is what is the catchment area for the 5 largest areas in canada?? How does this impact the success of EIA and attracting new flights???

Klaus Doberman · #**625** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Paper Boy

130-140 KPH is realistically the fastest average time one can do between the 2 cities. The number of police and the high traffic volumes prohibit much higher speeds. Getting tickets slows you down

The #1 from Calgary to Kelowna is a different story though. If you do it at the right time, you can average higher speeds. (in spite of the fact there is only 150K of FREEWAY) I recently covered the distance -Driveway to Driveway-McKinley in Kelowna to Crestmont in Calgary- in 4 hours 50 min) Although BC#97 and #1 traverse through cities and towns where one has to slow down.....I averaged at least 155 KPH in rural areas with a peak speed of 250K coming down the hill eastward before crossing the river that flanks Golden. I have a photo of the odometer (I have never figured out how to post photos here yet)

P.S. I would NEVER attempt this in a typical passenger vehicle. They do not have the stability or engineering to navigate the mountain curves safely at this speed....and the 250K...the car would have gone faster but I chickened out!

Going that fast in anything other than an exotic sports car (Ferrari, Lamborghini) You're asking for trouble. That's just stupid, if you hit a bump or the slightest dip or rise you'd be dead right now.

tuffyy · #**626** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 2:43 AM**

I once got to YYC from YEG in 40 minutes going 500mph on a 737,so beat that...Back to YEG topics and enough of the ''I went this fast'' in this car stuff...

Coldrsx · #**627** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 3:27 AM**

^ok...sounds good...cept it is very possible and not overly dangerous at 140-150km.h

tarapoto · #**628** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:24 AM**

The best part is my high speed wasn't even that fast. I got up to 180km/h after Red Deer and people were still blowing by me at 190-200

Edmonchuck · #**629** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 4:58 PM**

sigh...kelowna to Calgary in just under 5 hours...that sounds just like the stupid and moronic speeds that resulted in some idiot making a bad pass and getting into a head on collision with a semi that he didn't see coming the other way....killing my sister....

But hey, it was a "really cool" collision. To save a couple of hours Peachland to Red Deer, this moron decided that ending up in a fireball, having my sister burnt so bad that all we buried was a couple ribs and a tibia, being only able to identify her because her bag was thrown well clear of the accident site (some 2000 feet away), and scarring the semi driver for life that too this day he is still a blubbering mess some 5 years later...yeah, that was worth it....

Jasper and one o nin · #**630** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 5:24 PM**

Yeah, come on enough is enough. This is a thread about YEG, not how some site where you can lie about have fast you can drive. There was a time when I came to this site because I thought there was some interesting and inteligent conversation about development - now its come to this.

Rocket252 · #**631** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:08 PM**

Where is the moderator for these threads?

Edmonchuck · #**632** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

^And when can we expect this? Cause we needed it yesterday!

The terminal plans are well underway. The third runway is still a while off, probably 20 years at least. In reality, there is a heck of a lot of capacity with the existing set up, and getting even CAT I ILS on 20 would greatly increase YEG's all weather capacity. THe advantage we have...unlike Calgary where 10/28 intersects 16/34, we have no such problem...and no such hold short demands... We could cycle arrivals on 30 and dpeartures off of 02 for example...or arrive on 20 and depart 12....or whatever.

Our only true limiting factor is terminal slots...

ExcaliburKid · #**633** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:19 PM**

This is a public forum, what do you expect?

So hows the Port Alberta thing coming along? Is there anything of interest to report regarding that project?

Edmonchuck · #**634** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

This is a public forum, what do you expect?

So hows the Port Alberta thing coming along? Is there anything of interest to report regarding that project?

...not that anyone is saying publicly. There is a lot going on and support is being solicited for the duty free status from the Feds. Without giving away my source, I can't say too much more so anything would simply sound like rumor...

...but one stumbling block has to do with a certain city and a certain airport being a bit upset that their place is not the one being positioned for this, so a certain leader is having some reservations....about the duty free status for YEG or even public lipservice support for Port Alberta in Edmonton...

ExcaliburKid · #**635** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Edmonchuck

The terminal plans are well underway. The third runway is still a while off, probably 20 years at least. In reality, there is a heck of a lot of capacity with the existing set up, and getting even CAT I ILS on 20 would greatly increase YEG's all weather capacity. THe advantage we have...unlike Calgary where 10/28 intersects 16/34, we have no such problem...and no such hold short demands... We could cycle arrivals on 30 and dpeartures off of 02 for example...or arrive on 20 and depart 12....or whatever.

Our only true limiting factor is terminal slots...

Cool, thanks for the info. Ive always like the setup of YEGs runways, good planning imo. So I guess we can expect the NW terminal addition in relatively short time then? Or do those plans also include the SW terminal as well?

Also the Marriot is progressing through design stages as well. I know they have just finished sizing the mechanical equipment for the building, and from what I saw, it will be a damn nice hotel, for an airport anyway. 7 Storeys alltogether.

ExcaliburKid · #**636** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Edmonchuck

...not that anyone is saying publicly. There is a lot going on and support is being solicited for the duty free status from the Feds. Without giving away my source, I can't say too much more so anything would simply sound like rumor...

...but one stumbling block has to do with a certain city and a certain airport being a bit upset that their place is not the one being positioned for this, so a certain leader is having some reservations....about the duty free status for YEG or even public lipservice support for Port Alberta in Edmonton...

Hmm interesting. Glad to see things are moving along though. Can't this other, nameless city, give us a break here? Its imo that YEG is at a very strategic spot, and why not use it? Would it not be cheaper here anyway?

Edmonchuck · #**637** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

Hmm interesting. Glad to see things are moving along though. Can't this other, nameless city, give us a break here? Its imo that YEG is at a very strategic spot, and why not use it? Would it not be cheaper here anyway?

I believe the right heads will prevail. There is more at stake than ego, and many people are realizing this. As our resources and economy increasingly look north of Highway 1, ego will be a moot point.

So, it is more heartburn that will give some extra negotiation cycles to the project IMO.

Edmonchuck · #**638** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

Cool, thanks for the info. Ive always like the setup of YEGs runways, good planning imo. So I guess we can expect the NW terminal addition in relatively short time then? Or do those plans also include the SW terminal as well?

My opinion, it is on both, although construction on the NW is the key item right now. There are some other terminal configurations I've seen floating around, so the SW as is may not be the final...although a betting man would say it is.

Coldrsx · #**639** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 7:44 PM**

Leduc property values double near airport
Ron Chalmers, edmontonjournal.com
Published: 12:55 pm

EDMONTON - Property values near Edmonton International Airport have doubled since Leduc County started planning a new industrial area.

The county has hired consultants to prepare an area structure plan for 4,000 hectares of agricultural land north and west of the airport.

"I anticipate seeing major developments," said Rick Stuckenberg, the county's planning manager. "We think the first level of interest would be industrial. We're also hoping to attract high-end business-park development."
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Already, "property values in the plan area have more than doubled in the past 12 to 14 months," he said. "We have seen sales ranging from $35,000 to $55,000 per acre ($14,000 to $22,000 per hectare) for farm property with buildings."

More industrial land is needed because "we're seeing fairly significant growth in the economy," Stuckenberg said. "We see this as a prime opportunity to do some strategic land planning."

The land is convenient to the airport, Nisku, Hwy. 2 and Hwy. 19.

The consultants, EBA of Calgary and EXH of Red Deer, are preparing a concept plan to propose appropriate forms of land use.

The county will consult with the federal government about air traffic, with the provincial departments of environment and infrastructure and transportation, with neighbouring municipalities and with agricultural officials.

Within the plan area, "the predominant current land use is agricultural with some very viable and good farms, predominantly quarter sections plus a couple of churches," Stuckenberg said.

Removing land from agricultural production is "one of the main issues we need to look at," he said.

Kevin Hughes at the Edmonton branch of CB Richard Ellis, a commercial real estate broker, said his office already has seen "a fair amount of activity" among buyers and sellers in the plan area.

Converting family farms to industrial land "is logical because the airport is planning an expansion and the sound impact will become severe" on nearby residents, he said.

More industrial land is needed because "land is running out in Leduc, and there is no more land left in Nisku," Hughes said. "Economics, as always, will drive the situation."

Stuckenberg expects the area structure plan to be completed for consideration by the county council early next year.

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Klaus Doberman · #**640** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 11:18 PM**

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