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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 12:47 AM
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 1:01 AM
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OK- Why does the new Bus Depot look like one of the new credit unions buildings in box land ?

Should they not design it to fit the character of the location ?

Why is Pressutti's and the Novia Cafe destined to be torn down ?

Why do we let developers tear down old buildings and erect glass monstrosities ?

Why is Piapot First Nation not eligible for RREDA's tax abatement program for the 3 businesses being set up ?

Why is there no landlord licensing program or incentives to rehabilitate old buildings instead of incentives to tear down and build new ones ?

These are all construction issues and construction has a flip side and is not all rah-rah.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 1:18 AM
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OK- Why does the new Bus Depot look like one of the new credit unions buildings in box land ?

Should they not design it to fit the character of the location ?

Why is Pressutti's and the Novia Cafe destined to be torn down ?

Why do we let developers tear down old buildings and erect glass monstrosities ?

Why is Piapot First Nation not eligible for RREDA's tax abatement program for the 3 businesses being set up ?

Why is there no landlord licensing program or incentives to rehabilitate old buildings instead of incentives to tear down and build new ones ?

These are all construction issues and construction has a flip side and is not all rah-rah.
I have no complaints with the Bus Depot. I think it'll look great. If by character of the location, do you mean run down?

Hopefully they don't tear down Novia Cafe or Pressuttis. It's one thign to tear down a building with nothing in it (Pressuttis) but it's another to tear down a bussiness that has been in downtown Regina for decades. Even worse is the idea to replace these buildings with parking lots. Think how bad a ground level parking lot would look next to the twin towers. Hopefully they don't go through with this plan.

I don't believe they are eligible for RREDA's tax abatement program because of their location. If I am correct, the company has to be locating in either the downtown, the airport, Ipsco place, the University's research park or Ross industrial park to be eligible.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 1:43 AM
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I didn't say it's a reason not to do anything. But if you're going to say Fiacco is terrible because of big box sprawl...then so is every other mayor on this continent.


Anyways, I'm done with this site. I found this site and starting coming to it to learn about new developments in this fine city...things to be excited about. Not to get into an argument on the merits of our mayor based mostly on ignorance.

This thread has gone to hell...so I'm out.
I hear you Chaps. Always takes an asshole to ruin a good discussion.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:05 AM
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Regina's administration, both past and present, seems determined to remove any trace of the past from downtown and turn it into a faceless glass maze of one-way streets that empties at 5pm. It will be a shame to have 1750 Lorne pulled down. It's too bad that tenants aren't more financially responsible to manage their business affairs. And to pull down the Gordon/Aldon Building on 12th would be heinous. The destruction of the McCallum Hill Building for those hideous twin towers tried to pull it down once. I'd hate to see if fall to Pat's parking lot brigade.
     
     
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OK- Why does the new Bus Depot look like one of the new credit unions buildings in box land ?

Should they not design it to fit the character of the location ?

Why is Pressutti's and the Novia Cafe destined to be torn down ?

Why do we let developers tear down old buildings and erect glass monstrosities ?

Why is Piapot First Nation not eligible for RREDA's tax abatement program for the 3 businesses being set up ?

Why is there no landlord licensing program or incentives to rehabilitate old buildings instead of incentives to tear down and build new ones ?

These are all construction issues and construction has a flip side and is not all rah-rah.
you seriously need to get a life. If you have a problem with the way this city is being run then how about you go run for mayor in the next civil election. Perhaps you can get 15% of the vote like the last guy who ran against Pat.

That said, if you want to ask these questions about glass buildings and renovating old and decrepid buildings instead of building new ones then go start a thread in another forum cause those are all questions that could be asked about pretty much any city. I am like Chaps in that I come to this thread to get excited because I know how great this city is and i know that the momentum its on as a result of its mayor and its citizens is a fun thing to be a part of. So how about you take your cynical, sarcastic, and arrogant ass out of this thread and go start one where people actually give a shit about someone who provides links from someone named Spink.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:08 AM
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Regina's administration, both past and present, seems determined to remove any trace of the past from downtown and turn it into a faceless glass maze of one-way streets that empties at 5pm. It will be a shame to have 1750 Lorne pulled down. It's too bad that tenants aren't more financially responsible to manage their business affairs. And to pull down the Gordon/Aldon Building on 12th would be heinous. The destruction of the McCallum Hill Building for those hideous twin towers tried to pull it down once. I'd hate to see if fall to Pat's parking lot brigade.
Hideous twin towers??? You gotta be kiddin??? .....sorry but you just lost all credibility.



Good lord I swear there are some people who wished the Army and Navy building was still sitting empty.

But alas its obvious there are a few people who have nothing better to do then come into this positive thread about our city and troll it down to their level. What a shame that there are actually people who need the cry for attention like this. brutal.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:20 AM
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So any criticism or difference of opinion is negative ?
Please, stop with your childish attacks and discuss the issue. You may be of the opinion that this is momentum and progress but you fail to back it up. Please tell me what policies from city hall have enabled this city to prosper, have helped the most needy and have built a city that can have a strong future ?

The don't worry be happy attitude is not going to work, here.
Or, would this be appropriate, I swear their some people that would tear down everything over 25 years old and build a glass building in its place and call it progress.

Thought some might be interested in a RPG game based on Regina at http://politicsregina.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:26 AM
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So any criticism or difference of opinion is negative ?
Please, stop with your childish attacks and discuss the issue. You may be of the opinion that this is momentum and progress but you fail to back it up. Please tell me what policies from city hall have enabled this city to prosper, have helped the most needy and have built a city that can have a strong future ?

The don't worry be happy attitude is not going to work, here.
Or, would this be appropriate, I swear their some people that would tear down everything over 25 years old and build a glass building in its place and call it progress.

Thought some might be interested in a RPG game based on Regina at http://politicsregina.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx
You got 1 member. Thats even worse that 15% of the vote.

But seriously, its nice to see you found a place that you can argue with yourself.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:28 AM
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I have no complaints with the Bus Depot. I think it'll look great. If by character of the location, do you mean run down?

Hopefully they don't tear down Novia Cafe or Pressuttis. It's one thign to tear down a building with nothing in it (Pressuttis) but it's another to tear down a bussiness that has been in downtown Regina for decades. Even worse is the idea to replace these buildings with parking lots. Think how bad a ground level parking lot would look next to the twin towers. Hopefully they don't go through with this plan.

I don't believe they are eligible for RREDA's tax abatement program because of their location. If I am correct, the company has to be locating in either the downtown, the airport, Ipsco place, the University's research park or Ross industrial park to be eligible.
Run down ? Ouch have some imagination. The old fire hall is there, all the old main street style buildings on Broad, the old train station. It could have been given a more historic look.

The Presuitti's building is an old building, also maybe they should add some incentives to make it more appealing. But they tear down buildings to make parking lots is backwards. Upgrade transit,

Well, if North Central is not in need of economic development then no area of the city needs it. The rules should be changed, if they really want to encourage development there. Right now, to qualify for tax incentives in North Central, one has to raze the house or building and build a new one. Wouldn't it be better to offer the incentives for restoration ?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:31 AM
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Guys, guys, guys...lets all just take a deep breath here.

Not everyone has to agree with one another, so lets try to refrain from personal attacks. I think it's imporant to have people who have differing opinions. There is nothing wrong with a constructive debate so long as we keep it civil in here.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 2:37 AM
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Run down ? Ouch have some imagination. The old fire hall is there, all the old main street style buildings on Broad, the old train station. It could have been given a more historic look.

The Presuitti's building is an old building, also maybe they should add some incentives to make it more appealing. But they tear down buildings to make parking lots is backwards. Upgrade transit,

Well, if North Central is not in need of economic development then no area of the city needs it. The rules should be changed, if they really want to encourage development there. Right now, to qualify for tax incentives in North Central, one has to raze the house or building and build a new one. Wouldn't it be better to offer the incentives for restoration ?
Hmm when you said the area, I was thinking about the buildings adjacent to STC. YOu are correct though, there are some interesting buildings in the area, such as the firehall. But the STC will match the WIngate.

I agree with your second thought. I thought we were getting past the "tear down a building for parking. " But apparently not. Just look at Broad street, next to Saigon by Night. They tore down a building and exposed the rotting exterior of "Gingerz Bistro."
     
     
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Anyone heard anything about this of late?



I still haven't heard any radio commercias.
     
     
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Lets hope it wasn't just an election promise.
     
     
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I think it's horrifying what's happening to the historic building in Regina. If you ask a few landlords in the downtown, they'll tell you that the low rents and high vacancy rates make it more attractive to plow that ol' building and haul it to the dump than to keep paying a non-parking lot tax rate. It's not like the city could do anything about that right guys? Instead they give a bit of cash to that Regina Downtown group that spends more than half of those funds on wages for a handful of people.

I think this discussion is totally appropriate for this forum. The fact that there are quite a number of people here that think everything is all hunky dorey in Regina is precisely what is wrong with the city and the reason Pat made it to another term. Everyone here should be fighting tooth and nail to save these old buildings, not cheering as they go down.
     
     
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I think it's horrifying what's happening to the historic building in Regina. If you ask a few landlords in the downtown, they'll tell you that the low rents and high vacancy rates make it more attractive to plow that ol' building and haul it to the dump than to keep paying a non-parking lot tax rate. It's not like the city could do anything about that right guys? Instead they give a bit of cash to that Regina Downtown group that spends more than half of those funds on wages for a handful of people.

I think this discussion is totally appropriate for this forum. The fact that there are quite a number of people here that think everything is all hunky dorey in Regina is precisely what is wrong with the city and the reason Pat made it to another term. Everyone here should be fighting tooth and nail to save these old buildings, not cheering as they go down.
I don't actually see anyone cheering? There is a difference between coming on here and talking constructively, you come on here and start attacking.

After Calgary, Regina has the second lowest office vancany. That must say something, no?
     
     
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I don't actually see anyone cheering? There is a difference between coming on here and talking constructively, you come on here and start attacking.

After Calgary, Regina has the second lowest office vancany. That must say something, no?
low supply doesnt mean everything all the time....Edmonton has low vacancy...4.6%, but do you see new office towers everywhere?
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^Agreed. Regina has done nothing to promote any sense of identity for itself downtown. The legion, the RM of Sherwood Building, Hanley Building. Heck all of Cornwall Street between Victoria Park and the mall will be razed for parking soon enough.

Woohoo, we have a Casino! There's one in Edmonton. There's one in Winnipeg. How is this differentiating Regina? There's a mineral spa in Moose Jaw and they advertise and preserve their tunnels and history. Regina doesn't.

Rah rah rah, Regina's great, things are great, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. Not everyone is enamoured with Fiacco and his I <3 Regina butt-ugly statue and I'm totally siding with Quimby and 6VDC on that one.

Development is good, but a spa and a bus depot are not exactly doing things to bring actual Regina residents back into the core.
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Low vacancy doesn't mean anything when you've converted office space into condos. Without those reductions in available commercial space in Regina, the vacancy rate is probably static to increasing, not decreasing.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2007, 3:41 AM
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The legion is in the planning stages of being converted into a performance venue.

The RM of Sherwood is obviously still in use, and until the RM of Sherwood dissapears it will always be in use.

The point is, things are hopefully starting to change. Of course it would be nice to see buildings like the Army and Navy get re-used, rather than torn down but the truth is it sat vacant for 7 years. It's obvious nothing was going to get done.

FInally we are starting to see some progress with some new additions to the core. STC, Wingate, Retirement complex, SUMA building, Victoria Place, Leader building, Century Plaza, federal government building, new businesses, etc. Prior to the past couple of years, I think you could have listed off all the new developments in the previous 5-10 years on one hand.

Obviously things aren't perfect but change doesn't happen over night.
     
     
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