Regina Construction

[CCF]

Originally Posted by Chaps

Hmmm...I'm going to have to sign up for an LP subscription pretty soon...

I'm doubting tourism is going to be anything too earth shattering. They don't occupy a large building right now do they?

They occupy that building on the Trans Canada, east of the city. It seems that they've outgrown that building. Would be neat to see them move downtown somewhere. Obviously it would have to be at ground level, probabaly on one of the major roads (Albert, Broad, Vic, Sask).

[Chaps]

Originally Posted by CCF

They occupy that building on the Trans Canada, east of the city. It seems that they've outgrown that building. Would be neat to see them move downtown somewhere. Obviously it would have to be at ground level, probabaly on one of the major roads (Albert, Broad, Vic, Sask).

It would be cool if they built a building on that vacant lot on Albert St and 12th? (beside 241 Pizza).

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Chaps

Not really sure what this is about:

http://edcommunity.apple.com/gallery/student/item.php?itemID=11774

What an aweful song..lol.

But damn do those pics of Regina make me anxious for summer.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Migs

I just wanted to let you guys know that Mayor Pat Fiacco is now officially aware of this thread.

Great, the mayor, that is the laughing stock of Canada, can have his head inflated further.

Pat, if you read this, your handling of the North Central area has been deplorable and your reaction to a truthful article made you the equivalent to Mel Lastman and his "Who's this WHO ?" comment. Thanks for setting Regina back 20 years.

Your development plan, or lack of a modern one, is laughable and your constant blaming others for your mismanagement is typical of your ilk. Enjoy the ride, all populists crash and burn. If you find your self on the road to Damascus, read Jane Jacobs and Richard Florida. Then maybe we can actually get to improving this city.

[CCF]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Great, the mayor, that is the laughing stock of Canada, can have his head inflated further.

Pat, if you read this, your handling of the North Central area has been deplorable and your reaction to a truthful article made you the equivalent to Mel Lastman and his "Who's this WHO ?" comment. Thanks for setting Regina back 20 years.

Your development plan, or lack of a modern one, is laughable and your constant blaming others for your mismanagement is typical of your ilk. Enjoy the ride, all populists crash and burn. If you find your self on the road to Damascus, read Jane Jacobs and Richard Florida. Then maybe we can actually get to improving this city.

Yipes, interesting first post.

I'd be interrested in hearing your vision for the city. I do mean that sincerely.

[ReginaGuy]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Great, the mayor, that is the laughing stock of Canada, can have his head inflated further.

Pat, if you read this, your handling of the North Central area has been deplorable and your reaction to a truthful article made you the equivalent to Mel Lastman and his "Who's this WHO ?" comment. Thanks for setting Regina back 20 years.

Your development plan, or lack of a modern one, is laughable and your constant blaming others for your mismanagement is typical of your ilk. Enjoy the ride, all populists crash and burn. If you find your self on the road to Damascus, read Jane Jacobs and Richard Florida. Then maybe we can actually get to improving this city.

I would like to hear exactly how Pat set Regina back 20 years, seriously. I think Pat cares more about North central than any previous mayor I've seen. I think he's doing a good job overall

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by ReginaGuy

I would like to hear exactly how Pat set Regina back 20 years, seriously. I think Pat cares more about North central than any previous mayor I've seen. I think he's doing a good job overall

Could it be putting magazine's through a wood chipper, maybe ?
That looks great to my friends in Toronto, Vancouver, etc.
You think wrong, he is managing the city not running it. Fiacco only does the minimum and then only when media pressures him. Think about it.
Snow Removal, North Central, Campaign finance reform, base tax, Libraries, SW development, etc, etc.
The fact is people outside of Saskatchewan can see Fiacco for the populist, he is and maybe we will soon enough.

What has HE done that would constitute a "good overall job"? and why should good be enough ?

[6VDC]

Quimby is right. Fiacco's focus has always been development of unnecessary new areas at the expense of existing areas in the city. There is a disturbing relationship between land developers and city council. Spend some time at council meetings and you'll see what I mean. Having a bunch of new areas with new streets and new houses only adds to the burden of infrastructure upkeep. What happens when those new areas start to degrade? Will Regina have the population/tax base to deal with it? Growth for growths sake is not much of strategy.

[Ruckus]

Mayor Quimby has some passionate anger towards Pat Fiacco, and that avatar looks strangely familiar

When is Regina's next civic election?

[ReginaGuy]

Fiacco's focus has always been development of unnecessary new areas??

Do you guys think that real life is like simcity? The mayor doesnt decide where new development goes. PERIOD. I Can't seem to say this enough times, you people should really learn about the process of development.

developers decide where new developments go, based on where they believe there will be the most demand, which is based on what most people want.

Sure, the city could technically deny permits to anyone building outside of downtown, but no city does that, because you can't tell people where to live, it would result in growth suicide, its as simple as that.

The city published the southwest plan as a GUIDELINE for future developers, this is a GOOD thing!

Basically, the city has recognized that developers are interested in that area, and they also recognize that they can't stop development, so the best thing to do is set down guidelines, to prevent chaos (see vic east)

It's so easy and convenient people to blame the mayor when you don't know anything about how a city functions

[Mayor Quimby]

First of all Regina Guy, you contradict yourself saying the mayor doesn't control and then stating that they could deny permits. Nobody stated that development should be denied but there needs to be better consultations and an intelligent approach. Fiacco likes to state that he is moving Regina forward and that we have progressed so much under his leadership. When facts state otherwise, the fact is the development model is at least a decade old. Major urban areas all over the nation and world have discarded it. It ends up be too costly and hard to manage and provide adequate services, like clean water and sewage removal (both important health issues). Why must we make the same errors ?

We are not slaves to consumer choice, we actually are consumer choice and government policy, and businesses, can alter ones choices. The ones we need to attract to Regina are not interested in the basic single family dwellings produced by the current policies. They want good libraries, great schools, museums and art galleries. The modern urban professional wants the best amenities not a house with a double garage in front. We are driving these creative people away and not attracting any here with the current councils, since it beholden to developers and those that profit from it.


Read Florida and Jacobs, you will get an understanding of the proper way to run a city.

[superdave]

Edit...nevermind...comment withdrawn

[ReginaGuy]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

First of all Regina Guy, you contradict yourself saying the mayor doesn't control and then stating that they could deny permits. Nobody stated that development should be denied but there needs to be better consultations and an intelligent approach. Fiacco likes to state that he is moving Regina forward and that we have progressed so much under his leadership. When facts state otherwise, the fact is the development model is at least a decade old. Major urban areas all over the nation and world have discarded it. It ends up be too costly and hard to manage and provide adequate services, like clean water and sewage removal (both important health issues). Why must we make the same errors ?

We are not slaves to consumer choice, we actually are consumer choice and government policy, and businesses, can alter ones choices. The ones we need to attract to Regina are not interested in the basic single family dwellings produced by the current policies. They want good libraries, great schools, museums and art galleries. The modern urban professional wants the best amenities not a house with a double garage in front. We are driving these creative people away and not attracting any here with the current councils, since it beholden to developers and those that profit from it.


Read Florida and Jacobs, you will get an understanding of the proper way to run a city.

I didn't contradict myself, I said that the mayor doesn't decide where development happens, which is 100% true.

Do you actually think Mayor Fiacco sits down with his advisors and says, "I have decided that we will build 10,000 new homes in the southwest, thus completely destroying downtown! Muahahaha".

Also, I don't know what world you're living in. The hard fact is that +90% of Canadians want to live in a detatched house with a double car garage on 3 acres of land.

In recent years, the number of people wanting to live downtown has increased, but still, the vast majority of average people want to live in suburbia

want proof? Just look at any city!! Detatched houses with 2-car garages are getting built because people want detatched houses with 2-car garages. People don't buy homes based on an imaginary evil "government policy" forcing them to live in suburbia. PEOPLE BUY THE HOME THEY WANT

there are plenty of places for an urban professional to live in Regina, there have been a ton of condo units being built downtown in recent years, and there are lots of urban professionals living in the warehouse district.

If everyone read skyscraperpage.com and wanted to live in Condo towers, then Regina would be covered in Condo towers, but this isn't the case

I know its a long post, and I'm trying to type fast because I'm anxious to get to Regina for the weekend (in moose jaw right now), but my point is that if you think Regina is too suburban (which it sn't, for its size, IMO), bitch about Canadian culture, not city council

the mayor and city council have no say in what type of homes people chose to live in

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by ReginaGuy

I didn't contradict myself, I said that the mayor doesn't decide where development happens, which is 100% true.

Do you actually think Mayor Fiacco sits down with his advisors and says, "I have decided that we will build 10,000 new homes in the southwest, thus completely destroying downtown! Muahahaha".

Also, I don't know what world you're living in. The hard fact is that +90% of Canadians want to live in a detatched house with a double car garage on 3 acres of land.

In recent years, the number of people wanting to live downtown has increased, but still, the vast majority of average people want to live in suburbia

want proof? Just look at any city!! Detatched houses with 2-car garages are getting built because people want detatched houses with 2-car garages. People don't buy homes based on an imaginary evil "government policy" forcing them to live in suburbia. PEOPLE BUY THE HOME THEY WANT

there are plenty of places for an urban professional to live in Regina, there have been a ton of condo units being built downtown in recent years, and there are lots of urban professionals living in the warehouse district.

If everyone read skyscraperpage.com and wanted to live in Condo towers, then Regina would be covered in Condo towers, but this isn't the case

I know its a long post, and I'm trying to type fast because I'm anxious to get to Regina for the weekend (in moose jaw right now), but my point is that if you think Regina is too suburban (which it sn't, for its size, IMO), bitch about Canadian culture, not city council

the mayor and city council have no say in what type of homes people chose to live in

Of course they do, they approve the land use proposals. If they attached a fee that doubled the cost of single detached houses with two car garages and then made semi-detached houses, condos, etc permits free, you would see the market change quickly.To say, it is the market and out of my hands is a cop out.

The culture you described is the culture of rural Saskatchewan, not Canada. Canada's large urban centres are moving away from these developments or at least discouraging them. Why must we go through the same painful period ? Darwin does not apply to urban growth, Regina can and should leap frog this policy.

Lastly, as for the SW development, those "guidelines" are for the imminent development of Regina's 3rd big box land, another decade old develop policy that has been shown to be more harmful then good. If your right and Fiacco is right and it is out of councils hands then they should step aside and let someone who will use the powers given in statute laws or get rid of the council and let the province appoint administrators. Fiacco and his council should use what they are given, not cry and blame others.

[CCF]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Of course they do, they approve the land use proposals. If they attached a fee that doubled the cost of single detached houses with two car garages and then made semi-detached houses, condos, etc permits free, you would see the market change quickly.To say, it is the market and out of my hands is a cop out.

The culture you described is the culture of rural Saskatchewan, not Canada. Canada's large urban centres are moving away from these developments or at least discouraging them. Why must we go through the same painful period ? Darwin does not apply to urban growth, Regina can and should leap frog this policy.

Lastly, as for the SW development, those "guidelines" are for the imminent development of Regina's 3rd big box land, another decade old develop policy that has been shown to be more harmful then good. If your right and Fiacco is right and it is out of councils hands then they should step aside and let someone who will use the powers given in statute laws or get rid of the council and let the province appoint administrators. Fiacco and his council should use what they are given, not cry and blame others.

I agree with you on the SW. Completely unneeded in my opinion.

[Mayor Quimby]

As well, Regina Guy is correct. Regina is not too suburban but why go there ?

Why not skip that phase ?

[CCF]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

As well, Regina Guy is correct. Regina is not too suburban but why go there ?

Why not skip that phase ?

I also think, if we are going to build these suburbs, why don't we make the developers build some attractive, unique housing. Why don't we make them build interresting, and unique communities. I can't even begin to imagine how much these development companies are making. Make them build communites that are carbon copies of one another. For instance, I think the riverbend idea is interesting, that "lake" will certainly be a draw. But the condos surrounding it...ugh.

[Migs]

Yeah Fiacco is doing a terrible job. I guess that is why he got 85% of the vote in the last election.

And if you are reading this Pat....don't worry cause there are some in every crowd.

[Mayor Quimby]

Yes, 85% of 35% of the eligible voters is a ringing endorsement from 1/3 of the city and a Rolling Stones concert in the middle of an election helped a wee bit. Hopefully after the Maclean's episode more people will be interested in voting. If Pat Fiacco is doing such a wonderful job, please tell me 5 ideas that he has come up with, of his own, that have improved the city.
To start, I Love Regina-not original, not his and a waste of money.Boosterism does not count.

As for Fat Cat Pat reading here, maybe he can copy some more policy because he has pretty much introduced his opponents platform since winning.

Hmmmm?

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Migs

Yeah Fiacco is doing a terrible job. I guess that is why he got 85% of the vote in the last election.

And if you are reading this Pat....don't worry cause there are some in every crowd.

Ass