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[Alkapone]

Originally Posted by Alkapone

Here’s one the Arizona archives got wrong so maybe we can give the the correct answer about the stone arch bridge and roadway in Riverside: https://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/nodes/view/221162

Ta da….



siurced azmemory as above.

(It might have to do with a recent posting.)

The eras of the “Buena Vista” bridge over the gateway road are in photos here: https://www.raincrossgazette.com/the-bridges-of-riverside-county/

[Alkapone]

And a fuller history: https://www.raincrossgazette.com/buena-vista-bridge-endures-as-gateway-to-riversides-past/

[riichkay]

Here's another from Flickr with no info whatsoever, but it certainly has that could-be-L.A. vibe....

Note the diagonal parking foreground....and a possible mountain slope to the left of the bldg that's left of the lamppost.

[odinthor]

One gets a feel for areas, and intuition told me that this must be somewhere around Manhattan Beach or Hermosa Beach. I shamelessly resort to A.I. once I have a few clues to present (in this case, the angle of the sun and the name on the eatery, as well as a certain beach vibe, plus the uniform size of the palm trees in the distance, suggesting a common date of origin for development), and A.I. validated my instinct as follows (but of course A.I. can be wrong):

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Your geographical intuition and deductive reasoning regarding the sun's position are completely correct. This photograph shows the original structure of The Lighthouse Cafe in Hermosa Beach, California. The location is 30 Pier Avenue, captured here during the 1930s when it was operating as a roadside diner. [1] (https://www.thelighthousecafe.net/history), [2] (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sunday-dayt...mited-free-tickets-tickets-1997271081570)

Key Details & BackgroundThe Building: Originally built a short walk from the sand in 1934 under the name "Verpilate’s", the building featured unique, eye-catching programmatic architecture. It was designed with a miniature mimetic lighthouse structure protruding from its roof to draw the attention of passing motorists and beachgoers. [1] (https://www.thelighthousecafe.net/history)

The Sign: The signage visible on the front reads "LITEHOUSE" over the entrance, alongside a hanging sign for "Sandwiches / Lunches" and a prominent vintage Coca-Cola advertisement.

Evolution into a Jazz Landmark: In 1940, the location transitioned into a bar officially named "The Lighthouse". By the late 1940s and 1950s under manager John Levine, it transformed into one of the most legendary West Coast jazz hubs in America, hosting icon performances from Miles Davis, Chet Baker, and Gerry Mulligan. It remains a famous landmark in the South Bay. [1] (https://www.facebook.com/groups/hermosaforum/posts/1732532264593089/), [2] (https://www.thelighthousecafe.net/history)

The Orientation: Your analysis of the sun is spot on. The camera is pointing roughly northeast toward the storefront. The long shadows and sharp illumination casting across the street from the left indicate the late afternoon sun descending in the west over the Pacific Ocean, directly behind the photographer.

[Bristolian]

I'm not sure I agree on the orientation. The current Lighthouse Cafe at 30 Pier Avenue is on the south side of the street. The ocean would be to the right of the photographer. The building is definitely not the same as the current one.
I think if the Litehouse and the Lighthouse Cafe are connected, the building in the photo could possibly be on the east side of nearby Hermosa Avenue which would put the setting sun behind the photographer.
Hermosa Avenue currently has a center median that was previously a Pacific Electric right of way. There may be tracks in the photo?

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by odinthor

One gets a feel for areas

That's really true, isn't it?

A number of times, I've seen a photo in this thread, and despite not being able to recognize anything in the photo, my mind instantly thinks “That's Highland Ave!” It's perplexing that it works, but I've experienced it to be true on multiple occasions.

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by Bristolian

I'm not sure I agree on the orientation. The current Lighthouse Cafe at 30 Pier Avenue is on the south side of the street. The ocean would be to the right of the photographer. The building is definitely not the same as the current one.
I think if the Litehouse and the Lighthouse Cafe are connected, the building in the photo could possibly be on the east side of nearby Hermosa Avenue which would put the setting sun behind the photographer.
Hermosa Avenue currently has a center median that was previously a Pacific Electric right of way. There may be tracks in the photo?

I'd be more comfortable if we could find images to confirm or deny the A.I.-assisted i.d.--hopefully it's not just a complaisant though phantom effort from A.I. building on my thoughts and prompts. As remarks tend to be focused on the site's later place in jazz history, the early days are neglected and it's unclear from rather scanty descriptions if the place retained its original building, or built a new place not necessarily in the footprint of the original but perhaps adjacent. I think I can see tracks in the original photo. I had hoped to be able to find the angled parking in some old pic; but an hour's search has been unavailing.

[Bristolian]

indeed!

This 1960 aerial shows the intersection of Hermosa & Pier Avenues with west at the top. Curiously there was no Hermosa Pier in 1960.
With my dismal graphics skills I have put a red blob at 30 Pier Avenue. Pier avenue west of Hermosa Avenue has been a pedestrian plaza for years but the photo shows a unique parking situation in 1960 with angled parking on the right of the westbound side and angled parking on either side going east.
The photo also shows angled parking on Hermosa Avenue which is not the case today. I've also put a blue blob on a building at the bottom left. I'm not saying this is the location of the Litehouse but IF the Litehouse restaurant from the photo was in Hermosa Beach, this is my gut feeling of its general location - the east side of Hermosa Avenue.


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[Martin Pal]

Lighthouse / Litehouse.

So I asked "AI" if the historic Lighthouse Cafe in Hermosa Beach was ever spelled "Litehouse." Reply:

Ever since the venue transitioned from a restaurant built in 1934 called Verpilate's into a Polynesian-style bar in 1940, it has always used the traditional spelling, "The Lighthouse." When legendary bassist Howard Rumsey helped turn it into a West Coast jazz mecca in 1949, it was famously known as "The Lighthouse," and the house band was named the "Lighthouse All-Stars." The word "Café" was officially appended to the name in 1981.

[riichkay]

Re: The Litehouse, I contacted the Hermosa Beach Museum, and received a reply as follows:

Thanks for your email.

I can confirm that this is most definitely not the Lighthouse Cafe in Hermosa Beach. Different location entirely. Unlikely it was an original location, as the business that was in the building here in Hermosa prior was called Vurpillates, and was converted by the same owners into the Lighthouse circa 1940.

I am not able to note anything else in the photo that resonated with me at the moment, but will keep it in mind if something else comes to me or our staff.

The gentleman in the photo does not look familiar either, which Hermosa Beach being such a small town, is a feature we can usually identify. Give us a shout if any new details come up.

I put the name into newspapers.com and filtered for LA, but as you can imagine I simply got a lot of salad dressing results!

All the Best,
Jamie Erickson
Museum Executive Director