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Old Posted Jun 25, 2026, 6:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zmonkey View Post
Theres also a stark difference in there strategty in Canada.
British focus on bigger, higher margin markets in Canada for their aircraft (Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver).

KLM/Air France serve 8 cities and use Canada as a hub to feed their networks in AMS and Paris (Cities served -Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver). They also fully work with WestJet for more flights (Halifax, St. Johns and Calgary on WS metal) and fully connect.

AF/KLM are a super connector and care more about volume than margin for places like Canada and have WestJet to connect you to the 11 cities that dont fly to their hubs on their metal or Westjet Metal.
Totally correct. BA is looking for premium O&D to LHR. AF/KLM is happy to see lots of O&D to AMS or CDG, but know they can connect to the world via either of those hubs and can grab a lot of premium traffic that way.

The dude paying $500 trans-Atlantic in the back of the plane is not keeping that route alive.

I just wish YOW had DL back to help migrate people (including me) to SkyTeam. UA must love that there is no DL/AA here.

This is why BA didn't last long in YYC - Calgary. Even though YYC has lots of premium traffic... it still didn't work (WS and AC also fly n/s to LHR/LGW)
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