Downtown Vancouver Updates II

[kikin]

Originally Posted by madog222

1199 W Pender.

New hotel and residential proposal by Reliance to replace the existing 70 year old office building.

nice, so many hotels coming downtown, this bodes well for the tourist industry and should make a good vibrant mix of population and therefore business downtown

[seamusmcduff]

Would this be a conversion, or a completely new building?

[jollyburger]

I assume it's a new development.

Seems like Reliance was trying to sell 1199 W Pender last year?

https://greenstreetnews.com/article/unig...-block-pitching-redevelopment-potential/

1166 W Pender building grades was 49 stories. I wonder if we'll get a similar build 9FSR hotel and hit 20FSR with a ~50-60 storey tower?

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=279492984

[officedweller]

Depends if shadowing on the park is still an issue.
Thats the Uniglobe Building - prime location.
Triangle West is becoming more hotel than office.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Depends if shadowing on the park is still an issue.
Thats the Uniglobe Building - prime location.
Triangle West is becoming more hotel than office.

The sculpted roof on the old office proposal at 1166 West Pender was for the shadowing but I have no clue how they avoid that with 49 stories (office was 32 stories at 120m/393 feet)

https://council.vancouver.ca/20190611/documents/p10.pdf

[GenWhy?]

Looks like 1738 Alberni has finally made it to Council for referral to Public Hearing on may 5th:
Report
https://council.vancouver.ca/20260505/documents/r14.pdf

Agenda
https://council.vancouver.ca/20260505/regu20260505ag.htm

" to permit the development of a 41-storey mixed-use building containing 377 rental units of which 20% of the residential floor area will be secured as below-market rental and a 38-storey residential building containing 236 strata residential units "

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Depends if shadowing on the park is still an issue.

I swear that people apoplectic about shadowing think the effect is like painting the world in Vantablack.

Edit: Basically this:


Source: me

[Spr0ckets]

I wasn't sure if this would be better suited here or in the Downtown projects forum, but if any mod feels it should move, feel free to do so.


At least it looks like it will remain in local (Vancouver) ownership.
It'll be interesting to hear what their future plans for it are.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/hudsons-bay-vancouver-building-onni-group-acquisition-deal


Vancouver developer Onni Group reaches deal to buy former Hudson's Bay building

"A prominent Downtown Vancouver landmark — the former Hudson’s Bay flagship department store building at 674 Granville St. — could soon change hands, with a new court filing revealing a proposed sale to a major local developer.

According to a report by court-appointed receiver FTI Consulting Canada, filed in Ontario court proceedings on April 27, 2026, the property is subject to a pending sale to Onni Development Capital Corp., part of the Onni Group, one of British Columbia’s largest real estate developers......"

Between this news and the Simons at (former) Nordstrom's news from yesterday, that major intersection of Downtown looks to get some major changes in the near to not-so-near future.

[C3YVR]

Same as above.

[osirisboy]

I swear just label it as something that provides shade, not shadow and the problem would be solved

[officedweller]

Thanks for posting!

Design-wise ONNI is pretty basic.
I wonder if they'll include an office component or if that will be replaced by hotel?
Hopefully it'll be 2 taller skinnier towers rather than the old squat full floorplate design.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks for posting!

Design-wise ONNI is pretty basic.
I wonder if they'll include an office component or if that will be replaced by hotel?
Hopefully it'll be 2 taller skinnier towers rather than the old squat full floorplate design.

In that location, I have to believe that even in this brutal office market, they'll include some significant office component - quite possibly paired with a hotel and some retail/mall space at grade.

You can't go wrong with hotel in that area - even with as many as 4 hotel proposals/redevelopments in the immediate near neighbourhood.

The question is whether they'll propose any residential tower (or towers) addition to the top, and if the city will even go for it.
Again, that's a location that screams strictly 'Commercial'.


Whatever happens, at least we won't be getting a 'RubyMart' or 'RubyWorld' or whatever the heck else it might have turned into.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

In that location, I have to believe that even in this brutal office market, they'll include some significant office component - quite possibly paired with a hotel and some retail/mall space at grade.

You can't go wrong with hotel in that area - even with as many as 4 hotel proposals/redevelopments in the immediate near neighbourhood.

The question is whether they'll propose any residential tower (or towers) addition to the top, and if the city will even go for it.
Again, that's a location that screams strictly 'Commercial'.


Whatever happens, at least we won't be getting a 'RubyMart' or 'RubyWorld' or whatever the heck else it might have turned into.

Isn't residential (wisely) prohibited in that location?

Since the old store structure is going to have to be heavily modified (or "facaded") it would be a great opportunity to put the art gallery there and let the city do something else with Larwill Park.

[WarrenC12]

Commercial + Office makes the most sense.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Isn't residential (wisely) prohibited in that location?

Since the old store structure is going to have to be heavily modified (or "facaded") it would be a great opportunity to put the art gallery there and let the city do something else with Larwill Park.

I imagine it is, but in this market, if Onni were to apply for a rezoning to allow them to put up a residential tower atop the requisite commerical component and density (office/hotel/retail), would the city reject it outright without a second thought?
(even if it could kill the project and lead to that building being abandoned and empty for many more years ....)

Especially with Bonnis converting their proposal up the street from full office into a rental tower plus hotel, not so far from this location?

Not to mention Holborn's supertall right door that's also proposing residential.

I'm not saying the city should do so either way, by the way.

[RDW989]

Pixs by me today, April 29

1818 Alberni
[IMG][url=https://flic.kr/p/2sajRui]

[IMG][url=https://flic.kr/p/2sajkny]

[jollyburger]

I assume it was installed in the Spring (March?) Intact Insurance logo on 200 Granville

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=256180990

[jollyburger]

I mean anything is better than the short stumpy office addition that Streetworks proposed.

[kikin]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

...
The question is whether they'll propose any residential tower (or towers) addition to the top, and if the city will even go for it.
Again, that's a location that screams strictly 'Commercial'.
...
whatnext: "Isn't residential (wisely) prohibited in that location?"

Why do you say this? I think residential is a great addition to a large mall, and should be a thing. Older people with mobility issues could benefit greatly in living in a condo attached to a mall, for example. I think I'd love that when I am 90 years old.

Why is it "wisely" prohibited? The more working people living right in the centre of downtown the better for everything.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

I imagine it is, but in this market, if Onni were to apply for a rezoning to allow them to put up a residential tower atop the requisite commerical component and density (office/hotel/retail), would the city reject it outright without a second thought?
(even if it could kill the project and lead to that building being abandoned and empty for many more years ....)

Especially with Bonnis converting their proposal up the street from full office into a rental tower plus hotel, not so far from this location?

Not to mention Holborn's supertall right door that's also proposing residential.

I'm not saying the city should do so either way, by the way.

I mean they'll get a lot of banked credit for a heritage facade restoration which would help in a mixed use development. I assume they go to the West Georgia side of the site for a tower since they can stay clear of the Skytrain station.