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TREPYE · #**6741** Posted **Apr 3, 2026, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by HiRiser

JP Morgan building hands down gets my vote. I saw it in person for the first time recently and its presence is just mind boggling. I never thought I would see a modern day art-deco tower go up

And, indubitably, 2 WTC is most prosaic one. We waited 25+ years to get a downgraded disappointment.

mrnyc · #**6742** Posted **Apr 3, 2026, 2:30 PM**

whoa they are moving fast with prep.

the old colorful graffiti you can see in my walkaround a few pages back end of february at the north side of the site is covered and the construction fencing is fresh —

jayden · #**6743** Posted **Apr 3, 2026, 4:46 PM**

Is there an updated earthcam for the site?

Cobb Nixon · #**6744** Posted **Apr 3, 2026, 6:28 PM**

how much money are they actually saving by making this 2/3 size shrunken version ?

SkyHigher · #**6745** Posted **Apr 3, 2026, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChiND

Xing

2nd one doesn't even deserve to bare the World Trade Center name. The JP Morgan is more like it. A visionary building design and presence. Not something looking like it belongs in Minecraft and if isn't even fit for the banality of Hudson Yards.

HyperPower · #**6746** Posted **Apr 4, 2026, 12:48 AM**

I think everyone just needs to simmer down here.. the city is getting another 1200+ footer and Foster hasn't actually published official renderings on their website yet. It only made sense that American Express would want their own signature tower downtown.

DCReid · #**6747** Posted **Apr 4, 2026, 1:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Currently among 3 supertall skyscrapers in New York under FAA study...

What building is 80W67? I don't see it in the proposals.

Mulan · #**6748** Posted **Apr 4, 2026, 8:14 AM**

80 West 67th Street = ABC Site

NYguy · #**6749** Posted **Apr 4, 2026, 12:52 PM**

^ Yes, that's the tallest building on the ABC campus proposal. It also goes by 147-149 Columbus Avenue.

TREPYE · #**6750** Posted **Apr 16, 2026, 8:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Xing Lin

Updated my own rendering to show the new design with the full WTC complex:

This banal design is not even an original concept; it has come to my attention that the "Panda Tower" is basically the same design:
https://www.kpf.com/project/chengdu-tianfu-supertall

streetscaper · #**6751** Posted **Apr 16, 2026, 11:29 PM**

And the Panda Tower looks a lot better in that rendering than current 2WTC lol

Zerton · #**6752** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 1:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by streetscaper

And the Panda Tower looks a lot better in that rendering than current 2WTC lol

I was just about to say the same thing. The massing is just better and less clunky.

Zapatan · #**6753** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 2:51 AM**

I actually like the design of this version (2WTC) I just wish it was taller.

mrnyc · #**6754** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 2:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

I actually like the design of this version (2WTC) I just wish it was taller.

same

mrnyc · #**6755** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 2:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by streetscaper

And the Panda Tower looks a lot better in that rendering than current 2WTC lol

if the panda tower looks anything like the sky in that render irl its not going to look like that.

Solarian · #**6756** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 9:32 PM**

I do think 2wtc is nice... But there is a a part of me that will miss the unobstructed view of one wtc from st. Paul's and the Brooklyn bridge, and the amount of sunlight that the memorial currently gets.

Overall, I'm happy to see that New York is still building impressive skyscrapers though!

What can I say, I'm just a huge fan of 1wtc but I'm sure that 2wtc will grow on me.

And the view from the south and west will definitely be a big step up too!

Solarian · #**6757** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 9:39 PM**

If anyone could post construction updates from this angle, that would be great!

Solarian · #**6758** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 10:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Solarian

If anyone could post construction updates from this angle, that would be great!

Just think, 2WTC will practically cover it up to the observation deck! Kind of butter sweet personally, I just love 1wtc so much

Streetsccapes · #**6759** Posted **Apr 17, 2026, 10:22 PM**

That is a wonderfully executed representation by TREPYE of the new 2WTC design sitting amongst its peers. I represent myself on this site with the Call name, streetscapes. The reason being is I paint pictures that are mostly streetscapes. When I looked at how the building would look, it was as an artist would look at it. Composition and balance are very important in a picture and what stood out to me is it is begging for something to adorn the top of it and bring it a bit more up to par with its big brother standing tall next to it. I’m talking something simple, that’s all it needs just to give it a little bit more presence. Something to break up the redundancy of the flat top buildings around it, e.g. A spindle style spire with some gravitas integrated into the roof of the building. I remain streetscapes.

O-tacular · #**6760** Posted **Apr 22, 2026, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by TREPYE

This banal design is not even an original concept; it has come to my attention that the "Panda Tower" is basically the same design:
https://www.kpf.com/project/chengdu-tianfu-supertall

This looks like the Temu version of 2WTC.