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Old Posted Nov 17, 2025, 11:42 PM
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It's the most obvious explanation. With a few well-known exceptions Downtown, most long-term vacant sites are former gas station locations. There was an article about it over a decade ago, and nothing much has changed (and some of the sites are still vacant!)

Patrick Johnson wrote a detailed explanation in 2013 of why some sites can be developed relatively quickly, and other take years, or decades. The era that the station was built partly explains the differences. If it was originally a single walled tank, there will almost certainly be deep deposits of hydrocarbons, even if the tank was replaced. Sometimes developers discover there had been a much earlier gas tank that had been decommissioned, and a different use had replaced it. Qualex Landmark sought compensation for a site in Dunbar that had seen the gas station removed years earlier.

Some former stations don’t even start remediation for many years after closing, like the one on Broadway. I don’t think anything has happened in 5 years

Also, I thought that you could truck the contaminated soil to a place in Alberta and the cost is around 100,000 for a typical site. So seems crazy to let a site sit for decades. Too bad the province doesn’t have something to help expedite it

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Also, I thought that you could truck the contaminated soil to a place in Alberta and the cost is around 100,000 for a typical site. So seems crazy to let a site sit for decades. Too bad the province doesn’t have something to help expedite it
Yeah, Swan Hills Treatment Centre (SHTC).
https://www.shtc.ca/

But may be slated to close in early 2026:

https://hazmatmag.com/2024/02/09/swan-hills-treatment-center-closure/
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2025, 2:19 AM
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2023 article on increased testing/requirements for waste soils in BC

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Recent revisions to the British Columbia's Contaminated Sites Regulation are creating headaches for developers, and could end up proving costly for both homebuyers and the environment.

Stage 14 amendments to the regulation change how the province expects developers to handle soils from Schedule 2 sites, which include a range of activity from snow dumping and leather tanning to petrochemical processing and storage. Properties actually or likely affected by the migration of contaminants from adjacent properties are also included.

But consultants say the reach is even broader than that, affecting land assemblies where a portion of the site may have been subject to a Schedule 2 use but other portions – especially those uphill from the affected portion and typically unaffected by the migration of contaminants – were not.
https://www.biv.com/news/economy-law-pol...ke-costs-waste-soils-critics-say-8271375
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Some former stations don’t even start remediation for many years after closing, like the one on Broadway. I don’t think anything has happened in 5 years

Also, I thought that you could truck the contaminated soil to a place in Alberta and the cost is around 100,000 for a typical site. So seems crazy to let a site sit for decades. Too bad the province doesn’t have something to help expedite it
It's not clear exactly when 1398 W Broadway was sold, but it was one of five Esso gas stations sold by 7-11 by 2018. They sold off four more in 2018, including 1795 W Broadway, the Esso station that's still open (for now) at Burrard.

It was closed in 2021. It's possible there's remediation taking place, because some of the methods are less obvious than others. It's equally possible that there's no significant contamination, but it wasn't worth carrying on running the operation, with another offering the same brand of gasoline in the same ownership only 4 blocks away. Gasoline sales volumes in BC fell from a peak in 2017 to significantly less in 2020, (due to covid, no doubt), so some gas stations were reported to be losing money on gas sales).

The owner of both Broadway gas stations has deep pockets, and often leaves development sites inactive for many years. Concord Pacific own both 1368-98 W Broadway and 1795 W Broadway, and unlike their various False Creek sites, the Molson's Brewery, St Paul's Hospital and the Westin Bayshore they have indicated they are actively pursuing rezonings on the West Broadway gas station sites. (They were rumoured to have bought the last gas station Downtown, at Davie and Burrard, as well).

(Trucking contaminated soil to Alberta for disposal cost over $1,000 per cubic metre from BC in 2015, so there would have to be very little material to only cost $100,000).
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2025, 9:18 PM
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Here’s a track tracker update!

In the westbound tunnel, rail has now been installed all the way to Arbutus Station.

In the eastbound tunnel, crews continue to pull rail into place. Once in place, crews carefully align the rails for installation.

https://x.com/broadwaysubway_/status/1991606280432050360
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Traffic deck girders are down to a partial span next to the headhouse at Main.


https://trafficcams.vancouver.ca/mainBroadway.htm

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Station entrance roof/columns from last week

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Traffic deck girders are down to a partial span next to the headhouse at Main.


https://trafficcams.vancouver.ca/mainBroadway.htm
4 month total shutdown to re-do this still seems insane.
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4 month total shutdown to re-do this still seems insane.
And that's just Mount Pleasant station, is every station going to be a 4-month shut down? That'll be 20 months of shutdowns if they're all back-to-back.
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And that's just Mount Pleasant station, is every station going to be a 4-month shut down? That'll be 20 months of shutdowns if they're all back-to-back.
Meanwhile Japan……

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/...ad-48-hours-after-sinkhole-appears-video
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So close, yet so far. Tracks installed all the way to Arbutus, but still a bit under 2 years to go. I'm betting it will be ready to go by Labour Day (first day of classes) 2027, then the government can pat itself on the back for opening early.

And at least the buses can get through the Mt. Pleasant intersection through the detour, but 12th Ave/West 2nd is going to be insane.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2025, 8:39 PM
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And that's just Mount Pleasant station, is every station going to be a 4-month shut down? That'll be 20 months of shutdowns if they're all back-to-back.
Well it's four months of total closure + 4 months of single lane traffic so there will be some overlap in the rebuilding of the roads.
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In reference to traffic decks - here's a pic of the traffic deck over Seymour St. for construction of Granville Station
which has a ticketing hall directly under Seymour St.. I remember that the deck itself was made of heavy wood timbers.

on Page 24 of the Transit Museum Society SkyTrain Gallery.
https://transitmuseumsociety.org/wp/photo-albums-skytrain/


https://transitmuseumsociety.org/wp/photo-albums-skytrain/
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In reference to traffic decks - here's a pic of the traffic deck over Seymour St. for construction of Granville Station
which has a ticketing hall directly under Seymour St.. I remember that the deck itself was made of heavy wood timbers.

on Page 24 of the Transit Museum Society SkyTrain Gallery.
https://transitmuseumsociety.org/wp/photo-albums-skytrain/

https://transitmuseumsociety.org/wp/photo-albums-skytrain/
20:29 of this video has a quick glimpse of the deck/Seymour. I think the thing shown is some kind of utilities support but who knows.

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20:29 of this video has a quick glimpse of the deck/Seymour. I think the thing shown is some kind of utilities support but who knows.
The bridge deck was on a Bailey Bridge. - the superstructure is a typical Bailey Bridge design.


https://www.ibeehivesteelstructures.com/...-between-bailey-bridge-and-truss-bridge/
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Looks like a mobile crane is removing some temporary stairs from the west side of Cambie I assume to start backfilling.



https://trafficcams.vancouver.ca/
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