[Moncton] Northwest/Magnetic Hill Developments

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by habs33

https://www.7irongolf.ca/ Is opening a new franchise location in the Horseman plaza on Horseman road

7irongolf is indoor golf simulator club and has 2 locations in N.S

7 Iron Golf is a pretty good catch for the Horsman Centre. This may bring them to 100% occupancy (at least close to 100%)

- Brunswick Optical
- Horsman Road Veterinary Hospital
- Medical Clinic
- 7 Iron Golf

7 Iron will be a bit of a competitor for the Bunker downtown on Main Street, but the Bunker is as much of a pub and bar as it is a golf simulator, and will have a different vibe. These two facilities will also be nearly 10 km apart. I think they will both do well.

[MonctonRad]

Site prep has begun for the combo Denny's/Starbucks/Fen's Market/Petro-Canada near the Mapleton/TCH interchange.

[Sunnybrae]

So I take it the Petro will have its own building?

[TisTerronsWay]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Site prep has begun for the combo Denny's/Starbucks/Fen's Market/Petro-Canada near the Mapleton/TCH interchange.

Since there is already a PetroCan and Fen's market less than 5 km away, any word on a rebranding for the MagHill one?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Sunnybrae

So I take it the Petro will have its own building?

I imagine you will pay for the gas at the Fen's Market.

Originally Posted by TisTerronsWay

Since there is already a PetroCan and Fen's market less than 5 km away, any word on a rebranding for the MagHill one?

I'm actually guessing the branding of the gas station based on the colour of the canopy.

Why would they need to rebrand the Magnetic Hill Petro-Canada? I believe Fen's has a working relationship with Petro-Canada.

[Sunnybrae]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Site prep has begun for the combo Denny's/Starbucks/Fen's Market/Petro-Canada near the Mapleton/TCH interchange.

I know this is just a graphic image but I find it interesting that they never show EV charging stations. You would think there would be some in a development like this off the TCH.

[MonctonPerson]

Originally Posted by Sunnybrae

I know this is just a graphic image but I find it interesting that they never show EV charging stations. You would think there would be some in a development like this off the TCH.

The plans show chargers on the southwest corner.

[MonctonRad]

10 chargers total - not bad really.

71 parking spots otherwise.

[lirette]

With both a Dennys and Starbucks available those charging stations will be busy.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by lirette

With both a Dennys and Starbucks available those charging stations will be busy.

I stayed at the Sandman Hotel in Halifax a month ago. Ate at their Denny's twice. It was actually quite good (better than IHOP).

[habs33]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I stayed at the Sandman Hotel in Halifax a month ago. Ate at their Denny's twice. It was actually quite good (better than IHOP).

I stayed there as well in Sept. Dennys is definitely better than IHOP. Have to wonder how long IHOP will survive

[MonctonRad]

Lordon (a women's fashion retailer) has relocated to 1690 Mountain Road (Hastings Ridge Plaza), to the CRU between Jitter Bean Cafe and Spinco.

A much better location for them, in a higher quality plaza, with more parking.

[reflist]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

This just popped up on CCD Canada:



This was previously reported on SSP, but, now appears to be in the preconstruction phase, with the proponents looking for contractors.

This is the site plan:



Each of the three buildings will have 63 units for a total of 189 units.

Fairly high valuation ($40.8M)

I took this shot this morning and they are already preparing the foundation footings. Once this site is complete, this small area of town will have considerable density and will start feeling like a mini McLaughlin Dr.

[MonctonRad]

Great shot. Thanks!

Ryan Street is a very unusual street. It is a former rural road, with an ersatz and circuitous route that has no logical coherence, and, when Wheeler Blvd was constructed, was truncated and rerouted via Hildegarde Drive.

This is problematic as far as traffic planning purposes are concerned, and, contributes to congestion during the morning rush on both Hildegarde and Horsman Road. This will only worsen as densification progresses.

As a quasi-collector, densification around Ryan Street is a given, but, something needs to be done to decompress the situation. I have always been a fan of reopening the truncated portion of Ryan Street by putting in an overpass over Wheeler Blvd. This would provide some relief, but, will increase congestion on Mountain Road east of Wheeler. I still think this needs to be done however.

A second relief valve could be the creation of a second point of egress to Berry Mills Road other than Horsman. The situation on Horsman is becoming intolerable during both morning and evening rush.

[reflist]

That is an interesting point you make about constructing an overpass on Ryan. That would connect directly to Mountain Rd and perhaps a street connecting to the new roundabout thus making a connection to Ayer ave. I think this would be a great idea. My nitpick about the north end is that its poorly connected to the main core of Moncton (anything within the Wheeler Blvd boundary). Mountain, Horseman/Berry Rd, and Mapleton are realistically the only way into the core and are major funnel points. I would love to see Horseman Rd extend into the new industrial park expansion past Delong Dr and create a overpass over the railyard so that it could connect directly to St. George Blvd and even go all the way to connect to Salisbury Rd.

[AGGUS]

Travelling southbound on Ryan, towards the roundabout with Twin Oaks and Horsman - they missed a change to widen horsman to 2 lines from the rotary down and include a dedicated right turn land form Ryan to horsman. This would reduce the back up on both Twin Oaks and Ryan in the AM.

As long as we're talking about possible like to have / should haves to consider:

-No left turns out of the Tim's on Horsman - it's too close to the Barry mills intersection and I've seen many close calls and accidents with this intersection. A right turn back to the rotary is often a quicker choice too

-Another access from Moncton North to the "other side" of wheeler, like detailed above would be great. Like reflist's red line, connecting further down on Mountain allowing you to bypass the Moncton north folks heading to Trinity would be great.

-Coming into the park via a Horsman extension would be great IF you could find a way to avoid a new crossing over tracks - this would even make it easier to set up. What about a curve to come in at Delong Drive using the current overpass?

-As more of the green space eventually fills in for the area between the highway / barry mills / ryan road Zack Road will start to see more traffic, needing possible upgrades or even perhaps a new route to avoid it.

[MonctonRad]

When the MID West Industrial Park gets expanded in phase two, they will extend Horsman as far as Delong to allow traffic to use the existing overpass over the CNR ROW to Edinburg Drive. This will happen. The plans exist.

I agree though that the ideal would be to do a flyover of some kind over the neck of the CNR humpyard, and extend Horsman all the way to St. George Blvd. This would be the ideal (with an eventual extension to Salisbury Road). This would be the Moncton West equivalent to Dieppe Blvd in Dieppe. As the city grows, this will have to happen. There is no choice.

I am disappointed that they did not start work on the MID West Industrial Park expansion this year. The plans are in place, and they have already sold the two largest parcels of land for future development. I thought for sure there would be digging going on by now............

MID West expansion:

[adamuptownsj]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Great shot. Thanks!

Ryan Street is a very unusual street. It is a former rural road, with an ersatz and circuitous route that has no logical coherence, and, when Wheeler Blvd was constructed, was truncated and rerouted via Hildegarde Drive.

This is problematic as far as traffic planning purposes are concerned, and, contributes to congestion during the morning rush on both Hildegarde and Horsman Road. This will only worsen as densification progresses.

As a quasi-collector, densification around Ryan Street is a given, but, something needs to be done to decompress the situation. I have always been a fan of reopening the truncated portion of Ryan Street by putting in an overpass over Wheeler Blvd. This would provide some relief, but, will increase congestion on Mountain Road east of Wheeler. I still think this needs to be done however.

A second relief valve could be the creation of a second point of egress to Berry Mills Road other than Horsman. The situation on Horsman is becoming intolerable during both morning and evening rush.

Would a hypothetical Ryan overpass/rerouting of Plaza Boulevard through what is now Moncton Chrysler to a new 4-way or roundabout on Mountain work?

And regarding Berry Mills... that weird little neighbourhood off Jonathan Ave should have a) its entrance realigned to Edinburgh, and b) a connection to Lady Russell from Westbrook.

Turning Berry Mills into a 4-lane road from the 15 to the TCH would be possible. It's only four miles.

And I personally cannot stand the Homestead/128/Berry Mills/Pacific Junction interchange. it's bizarre.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

Would a hypothetical Ryan overpass/rerouting of Plaza Boulevard through what is now Moncton Chrysler to a new 4-way or roundabout on Mountain work?

Certainly too close to the eastbound on/off ramps from Wheeler for a roundabout. Even an intersection here would be problematic. The northbound lane on an extended Ryan Street might work best as a left turn only, and skip signalization here completely.

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

Regarding Berry Mills... that weird little neighbourhood off Jonathan Ave should have a) its entrance realigned to Edinburgh, and b) a connection to Lady Russell from Westbrook.

This intersection needs to be cleaned up for sure. There is a large NB Power transmission tower right across from the Berry Mills/Edinburg intersection that would have to be moved.

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

Making Berry Mills into a 4-lane road from the 15 to the TCH would be possible. It's only four miles.

Even as far as Horsman would be a start. Berry Mills is a classic example of unnecessary parsimony on the part of DTI. They have upgraded Berry Mills a couple of times in the last 10 years because of traffic demands, most recently making it two lanes inbound from Horsman to Edinburg. Would it have killed them to make it two lanes outbound at the same time!!!

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

I personally cannot stand the Homestead/128/Berry Mills/Pacific Junction interchange. it's bizarre.

Agreed. A vestige of when Homestead was the original TCH. Even then, the interchange made no sense. This should have been completely redone when the new TCH alignment happened. See my post above regarding unnecessary DTI parsimony..........

[josh_cat_eyes]

I’ve visited this before but looked at a broader scope this time around. This would fix a ton of traffic problems in the northeast part of Moncton.