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Old Posted Jul 2, 2025, 12:33 AM
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978 Granville had 51,561 sq feet of office space.

2nd/3rd floor show as leased and the 4th floor with 15,873 sq feet is still available

So is CEFA and their 183-seat child care facility going to fit on the 4th floor or did Passport Canada jump ship? Some of their other locations seem to suggest they can fit into around 15,000 square feet for that many students.

https://www.dtvan.ca/wp-content/uploads/...d-Care-Facility-978-Granville-Street.pdf
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978 Granville had 51,561 sq feet of office space.

2nd/3rd floor show as leased and the 4th floor with 15,873 sq feet is still available

So is CEFA and their 183-seat child care facility going to fit on the 4th floor or did Passport Canada jump ship? Some of their other locations seem to suggest they can fit into around 15,000 square feet for that many students.

[url]https://www.dtvan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/2025-04-30-Letter-of-Support-CEFA-Child-Care-Facility-978-Granville-Street.pdf[/url
Cornerstone Institute has a sign on the door saying they're on the third floor. There's another entrance at the northern end of the building which has recent Building Permits for Bonnis to fit out the Passport Office on two floors, so it looks like they still intend to move here.
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City of Vancouver proposes 5 sites to replace supportive housing on Granville

The City of Vancouver says it has taken the next steps toward moving supportive housing away from the Granville Entertainment District.

Mayor Ken Sim says his office has provided a list of five sites, all owned by the city, that could replace the three facilities — the St. Helen’s Hotel at 1161 Granville, Luugat at 1176 Granville, and Granville Villa, located at 1025 Granville facilities — that are currently being used in the area.

“The sites submitted to the province by the City of Vancouver are for five smaller-scale facilities, each with 55-65 units,” Sim said.
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/07/03/vancouver-granville-strip-replace-supportive-housing/
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904-920 Davie St - May 21, 2025 - Revised Rezoning Application

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Reliance submitted the rezoning for their long proposed tower at Davie & Hornby back in November.

-29 storeys
-179 strata units
-41,000 sqf of commercial
-12.9 FSR

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/904-920-davie-st



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Rezoning Application RZ-2025-00051 - In Review
Application Date: May, 21, 2025

Work Description: 904-920 Davie St - Rezone from DD to CD-1 under the DODP (Area "N") to permit a 32-storey building with 244 strata units and ground floor retail uses. An FSR of 13.3 and height of 106 m (348 ft.) are proposed.
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=264690901

Looks like the view cone updates freed up some extra density for this proposal.
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https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=264690901

Looks like the view cone updates freed up some extra density for this proposal.
how close is that to the dreaded Murray Hotel? That area and realistically Davie/Helmcken all the way from Hornby to Seymour needs some cleaning up of the riffraff.
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how close is that to the dreaded Murray Hotel? That area and realistically Davie/Helmcken all the way from Hornby to Seymour needs some cleaning up of the riffraff.
The Murray Hotel sh!tshow is just on the next block.
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VAHA Burrard - Mass Timber Passive House

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VAHA Burrard

Pics by me today:

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Top of the core just visible.
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VAHA Burrard

Pic by me today.
Looks like the core is topped out (no more forms).

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I'm very interested in how this works structurally and will follow along closely as they build. Great pics! Do they have mass timber floors that are then supported on by attachment to the elevator core and then (correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like) steel posts on each floor between each level?
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I'm very interested in how this works structurally and will follow along closely as they build. Great pics! Do they have mass timber floors that are then supported on by attachment to the elevator core and then (correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like) steel posts on each floor between each level?
I'm also curious.
Yes timber floors and it looks like the timber floor pieces are the same or even smaller size (not smaller but closer positioned steel post) than the Brook Commons build Brock Commons Time Lapse - UBC Tall Wood Building
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I'm very interested in how this works structurally and will follow along closely as they build. Great pics! Do they have mass timber floors that are then supported on by attachment to the elevator core and then (correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like) steel posts on each floor between each level?
If you visit the page below you can see the structure of the building in 3D/interact with the model.

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VAHA Burrard uses point supported cross laminated timber floors, on steel posts, prefabricated panelized exterior walls, and a ductile concrete core that will be jump formed from the pit. The structure is anticipated to be erected in record time.
https://www.fastepp.com/portfolio/vancouver-affordable-housing-agency-burrard/





https://www.zgf.com/work/5057-community-land-trust-foundation-of-bc-981-davie-st
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Thanks for both of those links! Very interesting indeed especially watching that Brock Commons timelapse. I wonder why VAHA determined that steel posts vs glulam wooden posts was the way to go. With the posts being closer together, that will surely have an impact on floor layouts.
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This VAHA apartment building cost $70M for 154 units, or $450k per unit, in no small part because they decided it would be important to incorporate "urban agriculture" as an amenity for this building. This is literally an example right out of Ezra Klein's 'Abundance'.

https://www.zgf.com/work/5057-community-land-trust-foundation-of-bc-981-davie-st
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Thanks for both of those links! Very interesting indeed especially watching that Brock Commons timelapse. I wonder why VAHA determined that steel posts vs glulam wooden posts was the way to go. With the posts being closer together, that will surely have an impact on floor layouts.
Not a direct comparison because they wanted to use steel for both the posts and beams... M5 Main Alley

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Steel columns and beams are proposed for the main vertical support structure for the CLT panels. This balanced approach reduces floor to floor heights, simplifies connections and fire protection, controls costs, and maximizes overall embodied carbon reductions.
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Wood-to-wood connections are a significant driver of cost and one of the main reasons we are proposing steel posts and beams.
https://council.vancouver.ca/20240123/documents/phea4_boards.pdf

Video on post & plate construction (no beams Brock Commons also had no beams)

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Thanks for both of those links! Very interesting indeed especially watching that Brock Commons timelapse. I wonder why VAHA determined that steel posts vs glulam wooden posts was the way to go. With the posts being closer together, that will surely have an impact on floor layouts.
Maybe it was the height of the rat problem downtown.

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Yes, rats can chew through wood columns. Rats need to constantly chew to wear down their incisors, which grow continuously. They will chew on various materials, including wood, to achieve this, and structural wood components like columns are not immune to their gnawing.
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Wesgroup's 1450 West Georgia site has been listed for sale.

Most recent proposal: https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/1450-w-georgia-st-2

Almost certainly marks the end of this particular tower proposal/design. My guess is that the existing apartment tower will be around for a while since there is no market for luxury condos right now.
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This VAHA apartment building cost $70M for 154 units, or $450k per unit, in no small part because they decided it would be important to incorporate "urban agriculture" as an amenity for this building. This is literally an example right out of Ezra Klein's 'Abundance'.

https://www.zgf.com/work/5057-community-land-trust-foundation-of-bc-981-davie-st
The building fills most of the footprint of a tight site, but it has an outdoor amenity space on the seventh floor, with a play area, outdoor seating, soft landcaping and a small area of urban agriculture, (which is encouraged in all residential projects these days). It's just a way to allow some of the residents to grow some herbs or a few lettuces. If it wasn't urban agriculture it would be planted with something else. It has no cost implications for the overall project.
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The value of the land contributed is around $33 of the $91 million (2023)

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Approximately $27.8 million from the provincial government, through BC Housing, including approximately $17.33 million through the Building BC: Community Housing Fund and $10.47 million in Cost Pressure Grant funding.
Approximately $48.05 million in land value and in-kind contributions, from the City of Vancouver.
$15.4 million from the federal government, through the National Housing Co- Investment Fund (NHCF).
https://news.bchousing.org/154-unit-building-breaks-ground-in-vancouvers-west-end/

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In recent years, many City projects have been impacted by construction cost escalation. Factors
driving cost escalation include labour shortages, cost of building materials, and supply chain
disruption. The cost estimate (Class B) shared by CLT in early 2022 was within the budget
range for the project. Construction bids were finalized in April 2023. The lowest tender price was
higher than the approved budget. After value engineering, the overall project cost remained over
the approved budget, with $2.5M constituting the City’s proportionate share of the cost increase.
The primary drivers of the cost increase are:
• Mass timber design – supply chain issues resulting from demand for mass timber
• Contractor’s risk premium – due to new materials and methodologies including the
combination of mass timber and Passive House
• Passive House – limited supply of certified building products
The City is obligated to pay its proportionate share of cost increases as specified in the
Development Agreement between the City and CLT. Approval of additional funds is time
sensitive since the tender price can only be held for 60 days. Timely commitment of additional
funds is needed to avoid further scheduling delays and potential further cost escalation.
https://council.vancouver.ca/20230628/documents/pspc3.pdf
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The value of the land contributed is around $33 of the $91 million (2023)
And the construction costs aren't just to build 154 social housing units. There's also a 13,338 sq ft Social Service Centre on 2 floors, and two main floor retail units around 3,800 sq ft.
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ZGF had another graphic that had some annotations not included on the Davie project page:



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Steel Columns Bear vertical loads. Small foot-print relative to timber columns allows for greater flexibility for concealment in partition walls, with the numerous supports inherent to the maximum spans and panel sizes of a CLT structure.
https://www.zgf.com/ideas/6616-exploring-embodied-carbon-in-canada
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Anyone have an Update on the 1210-seymour-st Building? They demolished the old Building in the last couple of months. But left the original concrete slab but then work has stopped. Nothing over the last Month.

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