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Old Posted May 9, 2025, 1:09 AM
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I mean if it limited the redevelopment potential of the HBC site then it wouldn't be considered. But I was just thinking if the city relaxed their parking requirements Holborn could maybe pay some money to the land owners to get rid of the covenant.
Apart from loading and spaces for accessibility, (which shouldn't be relaxed) does the City have any parking requirements? I thought those had gone across the entire city.

You would think Holborn would have already tried to get the covenant removed. In the current situation it seems very unlikely RioCan or the court are likely to agree to anything until the legal status of the HBC building is all cut and dried.
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Apart from loading and spaces for accessibility, (which shouldn't be relaxed) does the City have any parking requirements? I thought those had gone across the entire city.

You would think Holborn would have already tried to get the covenant removed. In the current situation it seems very unlikely RioCan or the court are likely to agree to anything until the legal status of the HBC building is all cut and dried.
I would thaink that it would be harder to incorporate parking into the Hudson's Bay building than, for comparison, at The Post where it was incorporated in a couple of levels above grade.
I don't recall the proposed redevelopment of the Hudson's Bay Building having any parking - just a "bike hub" -
so a covenant providing offsite parking may be valuable.

Another example of offsite parking may be for The Electra (former BC Hydro Building) having spaces at Electric Avenue (900 Burrard where Scotiabank Theatre is located).

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In discussion with respect to Mr. Schnabl’s concern about the parking spaces being provided in this development
for Electra residents, Mr. Thomson suggested an amendment to condition A.1.10 to provide greater clarity.
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Mr. Scobie commented that this is a very challenging application. Clearly, the Staff Committee also struggled with
the analysis and rationale and thought it fell short of the previously approved application. He said he hoped the
applicant will recognize the Board’s directive to demonstrate how the residential livability can work given the
departure from the normal building configuration, as well as resolve the vehicular access and parking for the
Electra - all in a way that works both for this building and its occupants in the context of the Electra and the Dal
Grauer.
https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/development-permit-board-jun-10-02.pdf

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https://cd1-bylaws.vancouver.ca/ByCD-1Number/cd1s/iCD-1(229).pdf

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How many social housing buildings have no shelter rate units? Serious question, I don't know.
I don't either. The point is that they aren't all no barrier and they aren't all market rental -20%.
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Doesn't the social building include a childcare component? I doubt it's shelter rate. There might be some, but doubt its predominantly shelter rate/SRO replacement housing.
Yes ~50 spaces IIRC. Also an indigenous artist in residence space and gallery.
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The design of the tallest tower in Holborn proposal looks like it'd make cleaning very difficult and/or expensive.
Working on another project years ago, the architect's response to a cleaning issue was "that's a property management issue to figure out".
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lol, it is holborn. 2130 maybe.
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I don't think this was posted or I missed it in all the news about Holborn's project. Seems like a lot of wishful thinking behind this plan.

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Vancouver Art Gallery could be joined by multi-venue 'cultural precinct' for performing arts

After years of pushing for a “cultural precinct” in Vancouver, local arts groups are celebrating a win.

On Wednesday, city council unanimously directed city staff to explore the possibility of building a performing arts complex on Larwill Park, the city-owned property downtown slated to be home of the new Vancouver Art Gallery building.

The council motion cited a recent feasibility study commissioned by the Vancouver Concert Hall and Theatre Society, a coalition that includes dozens of performing arts groups including B.C.’s largest symphony, opera and dance groups. The study says the city’s venues are insufficient to meet demand and a new 1,800-seat music hall and a 450-seat multi-purpose venue are needed.

Council’s decision is “very meaningful for two reasons,” said Suzanne Anton, a former B.C. attorney general and Vancouver councillor who chairs the Vancouver Concert Hall and Theatre Society.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...-venue-cultural-precinct-performing-arts
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Until this week, the plan for Larwill Park — an entire city block bordered by West Georgia, Dunsmuir, Cambie and Beatty streets — was to dedicate two-thirds of the property to the new gallery building, and the rest for something else, Anton said.

But after the gallery scrapped its design for a new building last year and decided to scale back, the gallery will now require less of the site.

Anton said she believes this could mean enough space at Larwill Park for the new gallery and a performing arts complex, as well as another use — possibly a hotel. The city had considered an office tower on the north part of the property along Dunsmuir Street, but with the weakened demand for office space and a need for hotel rooms, a hotel makes more sense, she said.
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With the Victory Park shadowing I hope they consider swapping these cultural facilities if they aren't going to be that tall with 550 Cambie or a future VCC campus redevelopment. Leaving Larwill for something more dense. You assume that would also unlock of cash for a viaduct replacement or to build these new facilities.
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I doubt there'll even be any cultural facilities - not unless their hotel and arts complex has some very powerful sponsors.
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Assume this project won't go anywhere with the office market situation but Deecorp's building with Rexall on Granville/West Pender

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They're too busy with hotels
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Old Posted May 13, 2025, 11:29 PM
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They're too busy with hotels
I forgot I posted this in the rumour thread a while back so I deleted it.

They want to convert a floor of unused office space in one of their buildings to hotel pods.
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Pizza Farina is closing on Main. I assume any rezoning of the property for the new 36 floor hotel is 1-2 years out so might be unrelated to the redevelopment.

https://scoutmagazine.ca/pizzeria-farina-announces-its-closing-doors-on-main-street-may-31st/
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It’s a shame about Farina. If that place couldn’t make it and it was as busy as it was, it must be a really hard time for the restaurant business.

Can anyone confirm that the hotel site actually encompasses the entire block between Milross and the viaduct off-ramp?
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Old Posted May 14, 2025, 5:51 AM
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It’s a shame about Farina. If that place couldn’t make it and it was as busy as it was, it must be a really hard time for the restaurant business.

Can anyone confirm that the hotel site actually encompasses the entire block between Milross and the viaduct off-ramp?
Unless the Surrey developer has acquired more property, it doesn't include the vacant lot to the south, just the old antiques shop, and the Cobalt Hotel. The vacant lot has a recent rental building already approved. And the 1913 building at the other end of the block was also owned by Amacon, who had an approved development in the mid 2000s that they never pursued.
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It’s a shame about Farina. If that place couldn’t make it and it was as busy as it was, it must be a really hard time for the restaurant business.

Can anyone confirm that the hotel site actually encompasses the entire block between Milross and the viaduct off-ramp?
The building grade was for 917 and 927 Main.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=243705872

The new development fronting Milross had a minor development permit change approved in May.

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Relocation of mechanical and electrical rooms to provide an additional CRU
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=243395130

This was the possible design from Arno Matis (the 46 storey seems like a typo)



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“There are a lot of developers who are looking at hotels right now because the market has shifted,” said Jacqueline Ho, executive vice-president of development for Paul Y. Construction (B.C.) Ltd., which is developing the hotel on Seymour Street.

The Vancouver company has owned the site for about 30 years. In 2018, it had considered building a mixed-use project with condos and offices, according to Ho.

It pivoted to a hotel between 2022 and 2023, which made sense in hindsight as offices become harder to rent out after the rise in working from home during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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High construction costs, elevated interest rates, and stricter underwriting standards means that new hotel construction projects are very hard to underwrite, according to Michael Stathokostopoulos, senior director of hospitality analytics at CoStar Group.

“This is especially true for larger, full-service hotels,” said Stathokostopoulos.
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“Bosa (Properties) alone has 14 hotel projects with some in the (planning) pipeline and some under construction,” across Metro Vancouver, he said.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...uver-hotel-builders-pivot-offices-condos
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