Canadian Federal Election

[bodaggin]

The utterly delusional ignorance of q12 and flowerboy is astonishing.

[q12]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

The utterly delusional ignorance of q12 and flowerboy is astonishing.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

The utterly delusional ignorance of q12 and flowerboy is astonishing.

Canada will be here tomorrow mate, regardless of who wins.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Here's the 67 page Liberal Platform. Use the find function and tell me how many times the word "pipeline" occurs.

Answer = 0.

When Canada dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.

https://liberal.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/292/2025/04/Canada-Strong.pdf

I want pipelines, I really do.

I also want appropriate levels of taxation and political attention to issues that really matter (which means ignoring the woke agenda absolutely).

I am a Conservative but, the current leader is unlikeable, refuses to engage the media and has a neo-Trumpian lite agenda that I find distasteful. PP also doesn't have the credentials and economic experience necessary to deal with the Crisis of Trump.

I will vote Tory again, and, hopefully at that time, the leader will be more moderate and likeable. Reform-type conservatives will have to realize at some point that if power is their ultimate goal, they will have to moderate their agenda and their actions in order to achieve this.

This is not their time..........

[Mister F]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Trudeau met with 5 different Italian PMs.
Yes our system let's elections re-establish stability that PR often can't so instead coalitions collapse and reform.

Italy has had 20 elections since World War 2 ended. Canada has had 25 including the current one. Since 2000 we've had 9 elections to Italy's 6.

FPTP isn't the beacon of stability that its defenders make it out to be. Especially in a multi party system.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

Canada will be here tomorrow mate, regardless of who wins.

This is the dumbest, most ignorant statement concocted.

What are Canada's largest economic cards against USA? Oil, Potash, and Uranium.

Guess which provinces those cards reside in? AB and SK. Two of the most pro-51 provinces in Canada, who have been landlocked by the federal gov for 10yrs and are at their wits end. Carney has given no clear signal he will reverse these landlocking policies. So when those cards need to be played against Trump, who do you think the citizens of those provinces will side with? Trump or Carney? The answer is Trump.

Next, guess who receives the most equalization? Quebec, it funds nearly 10% of their budget. Guess who pays the most into it? AB. So guess what happens to QC when AB/SK leave? It collapses. Guess what happens to the remains of Canada, that is now landlocked and divided? Bad things.

You are commenting on situations you are not mentally equipped to navigate.

[Taeolas]

So on a different topic of sorts, does anyone find the distribution of polling stations a bit strange? Or maybe Fredericton Northside is just wonky this time around?

In the past, it seemed to me that Advanced Polls would tend to be held in a more central location, usually a big space where they can handle multiple polling stations at once.

Then on election day you would expect smaller, more focused polling locations, usually in walking distance. But I may be wrong.

This election, my advance polls were close; at a local Baptist church just down the street from me. (There was apparently another cluster of advance polls at the Seniors Centre basically across the street from that church too).

My actual election day polling station is at the Rugby clubhouse much further away (still "walking" distance, but multiple KMs away).

I also have a coworker that lives somewhat close to me; but her advance polling station was apparently at the Lions club (which is many KMs away, practically at the edge of our district), and her actual voting location is out in Douglas area, much further than even where I'm voting.

In fact, when I go from my home to my voting location tonight, I'll have to basically go past her place. Which seems really strange.

Anyone else noticing any similar curiousities with their polling station locations?

[q12]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

This is the dumbest, most ignorant statement concocted.

You are commenting on situations you are not mentally equipped to navigate.

Insulting others is not helping your argument.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by q12

Insulting others is not helping your argument.

Pfft - it's all water off a duck's back. Let him vent his anger at someone.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I am a Conservative but, the current leader is unlikeable, refuses to engage the media and has a neo-Trumpian lite agenda that I find distasteful. PP also doesn't have the credentials and economic experience necessary to deal with the Crisis of Trump.

Note, my comments were not Pro-Conservative. I don't care who wins. I care that policies are correct.

All Carney had to do was clearly support pipelines, with believable and open language. His polling would have went above 50%, and it would have been a walkoff win with a united country behind him. Even Alberta. But he didn't do that. This will divide and anger AB. Moreso with each additional Trump interjection.

He's either oblivious to the severity of the issue, or is intentionally manufacturing a unity crisis that he's not going to be able to stop while Trump is circling the waters. The cascade effects of this are bad from every angle.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Here's the 67 page Liberal Platform. Use the find function and tell me how many times the word "pipeline" occurs.

Answer = 0.

When Canada dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.

https://liberal.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/292/2025/04/Canada-Strong.pdf

It won’t be due to pipelines IMO. Carney will be the best catalyst for a majority PQ govt next year and if they govern better than what we’ve seen recently (extremely low bar), they will get people on board for a third referendum. (Which they have already firmly committed to holding.)

Western separatism isn’t a serious movement. I’d admit it if it were (don’t care either way), but it’s not.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

The idea the Liberals will be better for Real Estate is pretty dubious. (Every Realtor I know is voting Conservative.) I suspect it is strongly the reverse. Poilievre is more likely to unleash economic growth.

In my now 20-year career in that field, the two times I saw huge disproportionate gains were during the 2008 GFC and Covid. Economic growth and real estate as a reliable investment are actually opposed. When the economy doesn’t do well, investors trip over themselves to overbid for the stability and solidity of brick-and-mortar investments. And conversely, when the economy does well there’s less appetite for dealing with tenants and management (the main downside by far, which is why I prefer parking lots).

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Mister F

Italy has had 20 elections since World War 2 ended. Canada has had 25 including the current one. Since 2000 we've had 9 elections to Italy's 6.

FPTP isn't the beacon of stability that its defenders make it out to be. Especially in a multi party system.

That's not the definition of stability. Italy has had 14 different governments since 2000. We have had 5 (Chretien, Martin, Harper, Trudeau, Carney). Italy is a literal poster child of instability. Only Australia has any level of instability with FPTP parliamentary system which is a warning to not give caucus too much power. The UK has recently started to do the same. Again our system of leaders control wins on that front.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by lio45

In my now 20-year career in that field, the two times I saw huge disproportionate gains were during the 2008 GFC and Covid. Economic growth and real estate as a reliable investment are actually opposed. When the economy doesn’t do well, investors trip over themselves to overbid for the stability and solidity of brick-and-mortar investments. And conversely, when the economy does well there’s less appetite for dealing with tenants and management (the main downside by far, which is why I prefer parking lots).

Yes rapidly falling interest rates without economic contraction do spur Real Estate and this has given Canadians the dangerous impression that a recession is good for real estate. I suspect those too young to know anything else will learn their lesson this recession. Real estate is absolutely correlated with economic growth, job creation and population.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Here's the 67 page Liberal Platform. Use the find function and tell me how many times the word "pipeline" occurs.

Answer = 0.

When Canada dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.

https://liberal.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/292/2025/04/Canada-Strong.pdf

The Conservatives use "pipelines" 4x - 1x it is in blaming Liberals - so a total of 3 mentions and the sections they're mentioned make no sense. Maybe less pictures of Pierre and Ana and more logical ideas would have been better. There is no plan, no $$$ and the CPC with their platform put on display how NOT ready after 4 years they are to govern.

[electricmodes]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Here's the 67 page Liberal Platform. Use the find function and tell me how many times the word "pipeline" occurs.

Answer = 0.

When Canada dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.

https://liberal.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/292/2025/04/Canada-Strong.pdf

The word "energy" appears 36 times, including 4 mentions of energy infrastructure, 3 of energy projects, 2 of energy security etc etc.

Oil and gas is mentioned twice.

There's also a section entirely dedicated to plans to foster Canada becoming an energy superpower.

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

This is the dumbest, most ignorant statement concocted.

What are Canada's largest economic cards against USA? Oil, Potash, and Uranium.

Guess which provinces those cards reside in? AB and SK. Two of the most pro-51 provinces in Canada, who have been landlocked by the federal gov for 10yrs and are at their wits end. Carney has given no clear signal he will reverse these landlocking policies. So when those cards need to be played against Trump, who do you think the citizens of those provinces will side with? Trump or Carney? The answer is Trump.

Next, guess who receives the most equalization? Quebec, it funds nearly 10% of their budget. Guess who pays the most into it? AB. So guess what happens to QC when AB/SK leave? It collapses. Guess what happens to the remains of Canada, that is now landlocked and divided? Bad things.

You are commenting on situations you are not mentally equipped to navigate.

I get that (rural) AB and SK thinks that Ottawa treats them poorly, but in all seriousness, they would be treated like banana republic outposts by Washington.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Yes rapidly falling interest rates without economic contraction do spur Real Estate and this has given Canadians the dangerous impression that a recession is good for real estate. I suspect those too young to know anything else will learn their lesson this recession. Real estate is absolutely correlated with economic growth, job creation and population.

And awful economic growth and horrible productivity… will result in the Feds bringing a lot of new warm bodies with a pulse, to avoid what just happened in Quebec (credit rating just got lowered because S&P said we aren’t importing enough FNSs; they care about our debt and GDP, not per capita).

I’ll let you guess what the effect on real estate will be…

[electricmodes]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

This is the dumbest, most ignorant statement concocted.

What are Canada's largest economic cards against USA? Oil, Potash, and Uranium.

Guess which provinces those cards reside in? AB and SK. Two of the most pro-51 provinces in Canada, who have been landlocked by the federal gov for 10yrs and are at their wits end. Carney has given no clear signal he will reverse these landlocking policies. So when those cards need to be played against Trump, who do you think the citizens of those provinces will side with? Trump or Carney? The answer is Trump.

Next, guess who receives the most equalization? Quebec, it funds nearly 10% of their budget. Guess who pays the most into it? AB. So guess what happens to QC when AB/SK leave? It collapses. Guess what happens to the remains of Canada, that is now landlocked and divided? Bad things.

You are commenting on situations you are not mentally equipped to navigate.

I live in rural Saskatchewan. No one seriously wants to leave apart from an incredibly small minority with MAGA like worldviews. The reality is AB and SK will never leave as the vast majority of land in the provinces is either Crown Land or Treaty Land. It's never gonna happen.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Mr Tall Forehead

I get that (rural) AB and SK thinks that Ottawa treats them poorly, but in all seriousness, they would be treated like banana republic outposts by Washington.

They would be treated like North Dakota.

Small town government. Some small business, all the corporate HQ are somewhere else and its where they have some locals to look after the oil wells and do some farming. Maybe built a few KFCs and a Walmart.

Saskatchewan and Alberta have done well being part of Canada. Saskatoon is the Canadian centre of gravity for uranium and potash as well as having a major university. Calgary is the centre of gravity for the oil sector and well have an impressive list of national companies with HQ jobs there.