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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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LOL, who knew Poilievre Derangement Syndrome was a thing?
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I honestly hope we get a minority, insofar that I believe there should never be a FPTP majority again. Let's hope the winners have the humility and respect for the public and start making the switch to PR elections (they wont).
     
     
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I honestly hope we get a minority, insofar that I believe there should never be a FPTP majority again. Let's hope the winners have the humility and respect for the public and start making the switch to PR elections (they wont).
We need strength to deal with Herr Adolf Drumpf. Minority governments are weak. We need a Liberal majority government. As a Conservative myself, I can't believe I'm saying this, but, there it is.
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Postmedia is a parasitoid: it feeds on local newspapers, kills them, and then pretends they're still alive. Below is The Guardian. It used to be a real newspaper. Today, its parasitoid posts political ads disguised as news stories — paid for by parties, designed to fool the community it once served.

I grew up in Charlottetown. In fact, I used to live in a house right across the street from the Guardian/Evening Patriot newspaper building.

I am ashamed.

Post Media has taken over NB too. The Moncton Times and Transcript has been completely gutted, and, there are only a few reporters left in the city (working from home). It is a crying shame. I haven't seen anything near as blatant as that in Moncton however, but, Moncton/Dieppe and Beausejour are two of the safest Liberal ridings in the federation. Our third riding (Fundy Royal) will likely go Conservative.
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I honestly hope we get a minority, insofar that I believe there should never be a FPTP majority again. Let's hope the winners have the humility and respect for the public and start making the switch to PR elections (they wont).
Speak for yourself. I am happy our FPTP system makes for decisive wins when we choose to change directions. Not more of the same as in many PR systems. (Others have constant collapsing governments). Germany was the only federation with regional divisions that seems to have had a successful PR system though not as regionalized as we are and we see how they can't change directions even though the electorate decisively wants to.

This moment especially demands a majority not a party beholden to especially the Bloc who're likely to hold a balance of power.
     
     
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We need strength to deal with Herr Adolf Drumpf. Minority governments are weak. We need a Liberal majority government. As a Conservative myself, I can't believe I'm saying this, but, there it is.
Domestic pressure within the US will be enough to deal with Trump. It’s starting already. We won’t need to do much (nor could we, anyway.)

I’m okay with a fourth LPC term, great for my net worth, but if you think regular Canadians (the one without real estate portfolios) wanted change in late 2024, wait until you see 2029! Canada is about to get even more broken.
     
     
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Trump inserting himself into Canada's election today one more time.

Minutes ago...

     
     
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Looks like Canada has a similar male-female "problem" we do in terms of political leanings; men skew right, women skew left but not high enough percentages for CPC among men to make things competitive for Poilievre.
Not Canada, the Conservative Party.
     
     
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Domestic pressure within the US will be enough to deal with Trump. It’s starting already. We won’t need to do much (nor could we, anyway.)

I’m okay with a fourth LPC term, great for my net worth, but if you think regular Canadians (the one without real estate portfolios) wanted change in late 2024, wait until you see 2029! Canada is about to get even more broken.
The idea the Liberals will be better for Real Estate is pretty dubious. (Every Realtor I know is voting Conservative.) I suspect it is strongly the reverse. Poilievre is more likely to unleash economic growth. Cut taxes unleashing more wealth for investing and I think even accept more immigrants. We will see a lot of clamoring for a return of immigration starting soon and I think the Liberals will be in a better position to say no to business and other lobby groups having been burned themselves as well as Nixon in China principles. So if you are heavily invested in Real Estate maybe better to vote Conservative. (I don't think either way it matters for young people unwilling to make the sacrifices necessary to save aggressively for a down payment as nothing is going to "save" them.)
     
     
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Speak for yourself. I am happy our FPTP system makes for decisive wins when we choose to change directions. Not more of the same as in many PR systems. (Others have constant collapsing governments).
Not true. PR systems are just as stable as ours. We have elections more frequently than Italy for example.

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And you clearly live in a liberal one.

Because you refuse to acknowledge that Trump likes your precious carney.
Ah so you fell for Trump's clumsy attempt at reverse psychology.
     
     
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Not true. PR systems are just as stable as ours. We have elections more frequently than Italy for example.
Trudeau met with 5 different Italian PMs.
Yes our system let's elections re-establish stability that PR often can't so instead coalitions collapse and reform.
     
     
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The idea the Liberals will be better for Real Estate is pretty dubious. (Every Realtor I know is voting Conservative.) I suspect it is strongly the reverse. Poilievre is more likely to unleash economic growth. Cut taxes unleashing more wealth for investing and I think even accept more immigrants. We will see a lot of clamoring for a return of immigration starting soon and I think the Liberals will be in a better position to say no to business and other lobby groups having been burned themselves as well as Nixon in China principles. So if you are heavily invested in Real Estate maybe better to vote Conservative. (I don't think either way it matters for young people unwilling to make the sacrifices necessary to save aggressively for a down payment as nothing is going to "save" them.)
Perhaps.

I though the realtors we generally upset with the fact government was making it more attractive to build purpose built rental housing (through loan guarantees) and had been progressively increasing the stress test for new home buyers. The Liberals also introduces restrictions on foreign investment in residential real estate.

That said, realtors get just one vote the same as the rest of us.
     
     
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Trump inserting himself into Canada's election today one more time.
This MF. He's already winding up the separatists for a post Carney win. This is bad. All Carney had to do was give completely clear and loud support for pipelines. He would have won over more of Alberta and the country in general. Instead he wimped out and veered lunatic hard-left Liberal about 3 weeks ago. This is an extremely bad situation.
     
     
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Trump inserting himself into Canada's election today one more time.

Minutes ago...

Is this an endorsement for himself, Poilievre or Carney?
     
     
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Here's the 67 page Liberal Platform. Use the find function and tell me how many times the word "pipeline" occurs.

Answer = 0.

When Canada dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.

https://liberal.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/292/2025/04/Canada-Strong.pdf
     
     
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An endorsement for himself clearly. He doesn't care who the Governor of the State of Canada is ultimately. He's too deep into his own delusions.

Spreading that idiotic tweet around in any case. It doesn't really promote any party in Canada, but it is likely to goose turnout a bit, no matter which way you are leaning, since it jumps on the Canadian Patriotism button again.
     
     
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This MF. He's already winding up the separatists for a post Carney win. This is bad. All Carney had to do was give completely clear and loud support for pipelines. He would have won over more of Alberta and the country in general. Instead he wimped out and veered lunatic hard-left Liberal about 3 weeks ago. This is an extremely bad situation.
He's still pretty vague. I actually bet he tries to push through another pipeline. Especially if he wins a decent amount of Urban Alberta ridings and gets shut out on Vancouver Island. Strongly recommend pro oil Albertans vote Liberal.

Meanwhile PP will repeal bill C-69 which cripples our industry but likely just sees a full blown battle with the provinces and Indigenous to get anything done and his ideological aversion to anything government funded means after 4 years there will be exactly zero shovels in the ground.

I think the best approach would be an absolutely expedited Northern Gateway, removal of the emissions cap and a new carbon solidarity tax on all oil production funding all sorts of green largesse.
     
     
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When Canada the conservative party dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.
Here I fixed it for you, you're welcome!

Congrats!
     
     
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Here's the 67 page Liberal Platform. Use the find function and tell me how many times the word "pipeline" occurs.

Answer = 0.

When Canada dissolves. People like you will be why. Congratulate yourself early.
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