Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Est-ce que les services d'urgence parlent en français aux francophones en Ontario ? Si Acajack était encore là il aurait sûrement beaucoup à dire sur le sujet...

Chez-moi à Timmins, oui. Et oui dans les autres régions/villes qui ont plusieurs francophones.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

Yes, so clearly you do understand how absurd it is to refer to modern day English speakers of all kinds of different ethnicities, religions, and backgrounds, as "Anglo-Saxons".

Ce qui est "absurde" c'est de s'opposer à l'usage d'un mot utilisé par des dizaines de millions de gens dans le monde. Bataille perdue d'avance.

C'est aussi ridicule que si les Egyptiens disaient "mais il ne faut pas nous appeler Egyptiens, c'est un mot grec utilisé pour désigner les Coptes il y a 2000 ans, nous ont descend des Arabes, on est pas des Coptes, bla bla bla".

[kool maudit]

This is like when Argentinians try and persuade English-speakers that citizens of the United States should not be called "Americans". Like, OK, fine internal logic, but these things are culturally determined and the usage is in play. French people say "Anglo-Saxons".

[Nashe]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

This is like when Argentinians try and persuade English-speakers that citizens of the United States should not be called "Americans". Like, OK, fine internal logic, but these things are culturally determined and the usage is in play. French people say "Anglo-Saxons".

More like calling someone from Pakistan or Afghanistan "Indian". Same regional origin, that's about it.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

This is like when Argentinians try and persuade English-speakers that citizens of the United States should not be called "Americans". Like, OK, fine internal logic, but these things are culturally determined and the usage is in play. French people say "Anglo-Saxons".

NB is trying to racialize all English speakers. He's trying to tar us all with the same brush. At least when referring to English speakers in Canada, he should use a more neutral term like "anglo-Canadian."

But, as usual, NB enjoys being needlessly provocative. It suits his agenda well as he continues to seed division and discontent. There is nothing more he would love than seeing the fracturing and splintering on Canada. When the next referendum comes, he will be sitting on his sofa with popcorn and a six-pack eagerly watching the results come in.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

NB is trying to racialize all English speakers. He's trying to tar us all with the same brush. At least when referring to English speakers in Canada, he should use a more neutral term like "anglo-Canadian."

But, as usual, NB enjoys being needlessly provocative. It suits his agenda well as he continues to seed division and discontent. There is nothing more he would love than seeing the fracturing and splintering on Canada. When the next referendum comes, he will be sitting on his sofa with popcorn and a six-pack eagerly watching the results come in.

Duck pate and a bottle of Burgundy, surely.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Duck pate and a bottle of Burgundy, surely.

But of course, and don't forget the artisanal crackers, sorbet to cleanse the palate, and a champagne aperitif.

NB does have a very delicate Gallic palate after all. He probably does not know what a six-pack is (let alone a two-four)..........

And, popcorn?!?!?, Mon Dieu.........

[LeadingEdgeBoomer]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Yes, my own ancestry is decidedly Celtic (lowland Scots and West Country English (Cornish)), although my actual surname is Norman French. I am a proud of my British ancestry, but, I am decidedly not Anglo-Saxon, no matter how badly NB wants to mischaracterize me as one.

Similar here. My ethnic background is Celtic (Irish), but my surname likely originated in Normandy. After winning the Battle of Hastings in 1066 in England, the Normans then invaded Ireland. Thus you do have Irish names that came from Normandy.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

But of course, and don't forget the artisanal crackers, sorbet to cleanse the palate, and a champagne aperitif.

NB does have a very delicate Gallic palate after all. He probably does not know what a six-pack is (let alone a two-four)..........

And, popcorn?!?!?, Mon Dieu.........

[lio45]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

NB is trying to racialize all English speakers. He's trying to tar us all with the same brush. At least when referring to English speakers in Canada, he should use a more neutral term like "anglo-Canadian."

But, as usual, NB enjoys being needlessly provocative. It suits his agenda well as he continues to seed division and discontent. There is nothing more he would love than seeing the fracturing and splintering on Canada. When the next referendum comes, he will be sitting on his sofa with popcorn and a six-pack eagerly watching the results come in.

My parents both seriously considered Carney but in the end, voted Bloc by a hair, and so did I. Let the official record say that the difference was made by New Brisavoine’s participation on this forum.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by lio45

My parents both seriously considered Carney but in the end, voted Bloc by a hair, and so did I. Let the official record say that the difference was made by New Brisavoine’s participation on this forum.

Enjoy your Grey-Poupon while Canada burns.............

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

We're still on about "Anglo-Saxon"? I'd take it as a kind of compliment, although my own ancestors were more likely Celts and Picts than Angles or Saxons.

I think many people of Celtic descent would especially take offence. Seriously tho, calling a Chinese Canadian or African Canadian an Anglo Saxon simply because they speak English is just all kinds of weird, and some serious French — lol

I don’t care if this is common in France, this isn’t France and it rubs me the wrong way, because of how stupid and inaccurate it is.

[O-tacular]

Makes sense it would be a thing in France where the UK is still viewed from a historical lens (even if the UK has tons of ethnicities and immigrants). Makes no sense in the ‘New World’. To me it sounds like a racist, colonial old world relic.

I’m 3/4 French-Canadian. Does that make me ‘Anglo Saxon’ simply because I live in Western Canada?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

To me it sounds like a racist, colonial old world relic.

Just like NB himself.........

[harls]

Originally Posted by lio45

Let the official record say that the difference was made by New Brisavoine’s participation on this forum.

Foreign influence on another country's election.. you don't say..

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Enjoy your Grey-Poupon while Canada burns.............

He’ll be watching from one of his compounds in New Hampshire or Florida. Grey Poupon is too expensive though.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

I’m 3/4 French-Canadian. Does that make me ‘Anglo Saxon’ simply because I live in Western Canada?

You’re actually 50% more French-Canadian than me

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by lio45

My parents both seriously considered Carney but in the end, voted Bloc by a hair, and so did I. Let the official record say that the difference was made by New Brisavoine’s participation on this forum.

Tu veux m'attirer des ennuis...

PS : Ils comprennent le français, pas besoin d'écrire en anglais.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

I think many people of Celtic descent would especially take offence. Seriously tho, calling a Chinese Canadian or African Canadian an Anglo Saxon simply because they speak English is just all kinds of weird, and some serious French — lol

I don’t care if this is common in France, this isn’t France and it rubs me the wrong way, because of how stupid and inaccurate it is.

Ce n'est pas courant en France, c'est courant dans TOUTE L'EUROPE, y compris le Royaume-Uni.

[harls]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

PS : Ils comprennent le français, pas besoin d'écrire en anglais.

You show us Anglo-Saxons, you!