Canadian Federal Election - Page 333

Hecate · #**6641** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 12:17 PM**

Trump really hasn’t threatened our sovereignty since trudeau stepped down, clearly trump hated him. Until trump calls carney “Governor” just seems like beating a dead horse?

MonctonRad · #**6642** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 12:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hecate

Do you include the bloc supporters in there and signal hill?

They are more nationalists than separatists (especially SHH). Canada is a large and relatively disconnected country - regional nationalism is common.

If the BQ were ever in a position to threaten the existence of the country, then things would change.

Innsertnamehere · #**6643** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 12:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hecate

Trump really hasn’t threatened our sovereignty since trudeau stepped down, clearly trump hated him. Until trump calls carney “Governor” just seems like beating a dead horse?

I'm almost certain his handlers told him to tone down the rhetoric until the election is over as it's hurting the conservative's chances.

Taeolas · #**6644** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 12:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

I'm almost certain his handlers told him to tone down the rhetoric until the election is over as it's hurting the conservative's chances.

I doubt his handlers have told him anything. The Felon tends to react and state whatever is latest on his mind, and has no capacity for holding his thoughts back.

So the lack of mention of Canada recently is most likely because no one has been telling him anything about Canada recently. (Or at best any reports are carefully buried in jargon and shielded by comments on other countries). Since no one is telling him about Canada recently, he has no reason to say anything different from what he's said before. (Hence why DC Judy repeated that there is "No chance on the 51st state idea" a week or so ago).

I'm sure the CPC campaign is very thankful that he hasn't been saying anything in any case. And no, I don't see this as foreign interference either. That the Felon has had an effect on the Canadian election is an obvious truth, and that the right wing parties (like the GOP and CPC) would prefer PP to win is also obvious. So I doubt the CPC had to ask the GOP to muzzle the felon directly or indirectly; it is just an obvious action for those moving the levers of power to do.

travis3000 · #**6645** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 12:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

Leger releasing at some point today. Based on Jean-Marc's tweet from last night it looks like they're seeing a very close race as well.

Depending on what the regionals say in Ontario and Quebec that could be worth keeping an eye on. Leger, as I've said many times before, is the gold standard for polling in Canada.

Yep I saw that tweet as well. Seems to indicate a tied top line race, or at least a couple points between the two. Regionals will be key of course. Leger is the best pollster IMO so I take them very serious. Expect a release soon. Also Pallas is releasing their new data today.

Also, fresh off the press...

New Liaison Poll
April 19th-21st (1500 sample size)

LPC= 43
CPC= 37
NDP= 9
BQ= 6

Liaison was the most accurate pollster for the most recent Ontario election.

Marshsparrow · #**6646** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 12:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

I'm almost certain his handlers told him to tone down the rhetoric until the election is over as it's hurting the conservative's chances.

JD Vance is best buddies with a CPC MP - guaranteed JD told Trump to shut it down...

Followed by Musk, Peterson, Jones, Shapiro, OLeary, Gretzky - all the CPC biggest fans can't go from rah rah Pierre's our man and the best thing ever to sheer silence... so coordinated, so obvious..

Hecate · #**6647** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

They are more nationalists than separatists (especially SHH). Canada is a large and relatively disconnected country - regional nationalism is common.

If the BQ were ever in a position to threaten the existence of the country, then things would change.

That’s there reason for existence. To threaten the existence of the country, their mandate is a sovereign Quebec, signal hill has stated, in the past his desire for an independent Newfoundland.

How are they any different?

Would the bloc not be worse for denying the Atlantic provinces access to a Canadian energy resource?

MolsonExport · #**6648** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hecate

That’s there reason for existence. To threaten the existence of the country, their mandate is a sovereign Quebec, signal hill has stated, in the past his desire for an independent Newfoundland.

How are they any different?

Would the bloc not be worse for denying the Atlantic provinces access to a Canadian energy resource?

Hecate · #**6649** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

JD Vance is best buddies with a CPC MP - guaranteed JD told Trump to shut it down...

Followed by Musk, Peterson, Jones, Shapiro, OLeary, Gretzky - all the CPC biggest fans can't go from rah rah Pierre's our man and the best thing ever to sheer silence... so coordinated, so obvious..

Still in denial over carneys connections, I see, not to mention the fact both have said they look forward to working together on building a new deal for North America after the election,

Fear mongering works.

Hecate · #**6650** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

If those separatist movements are red herrings (especially the one sitting in the House of Commons)

THEN SO IS ALBERTAS.

LeadingEdgeBoomer · #**6651** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:07 PM**

Ekos published a poll after three days of advanced polling. It shows that 18% of the voters they contacted had already voted---45% of them for the Libs and 33% for the Cons.

MolsonExport · #**6652** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Any time someone claims that an entire, huge group of people are all doing something as if they have a single mind and voice, that is not true and it encourages hatred and bigotry. Jewish people are all individuals and do not all do anything. They don't even all follow Judaism as some aren't religious and are just culturally Jewish. So yes, using the term "they" as a way to paint everyone with a negative brush is definitely not right. Not just impolite, but inaccurate.

Agreed.

Antisemitism or Islamophobia won't be tolerated.

MolsonExport · #**6653** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

this thread is about the Canadien election,

Sunnybrae · #**6654** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

How dare you!

Marshsparrow · #**6655** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:24 PM**

Conservatives often cite themselves as being strong on accountability and rules and then this happens and it is clear that they have disregard for rules... claiming it and then not paying it... this is taxpayers $$$.

"Based on House of Commons records, Brock has been paid more than $90,000 for his secondary residence claims since he was elected in 2021. The records suggest Brock consistently made claims each month of $2,375 from April 2022 to November 2023. The rent for his Ottawa housing, according to provincial documents, was $2,703.50."

Conservative MP threatened with eviction notice from taxpayer-subsidized apartment
https://globalnews.ca/news/11141902/conservative-mp-eviction-notice-taxpayer-apartment/

Hecate · #**6656** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Conservatives often cite themselves as being strong on accountability and rules and then this happens and it is clear that they have disregard for rules... claiming it and then not paying it... this is taxpayers $$$.

"Based on House of Commons records, Brock has been paid more than $90,000 for his secondary residence claims since he was elected in 2021. The records suggest Brock consistently made claims each month of $2,375 from April 2022 to November 2023. The rent for his Ottawa housing, according to provincial documents, was $2,703.50."

Conservative MP threatened with eviction notice from taxpayer-subsidized apartment
https://globalnews.ca/news/11141902/conservative-mp-eviction-notice-taxpayer-apartment/

The last lines of the article say it all.
The liberals care more about what a conservative MP does than their own prime minister.

FrankieFlowerpot · #**6657** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:36 PM**

Trudeau isn't Prime Minister

MolsonExport · #**6658** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:40 PM**

From the Wall Street Journal:

How Canada’s Trump-Style Candidate Blew a 20-Point Polling Lead

YOWetal · #**6659** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I really hate that the Libbies keep bringing up abortion every friggin' election. That issue is dead. Canada is not the USA.

The issue isn't completely dead. Poilievre clearly understands the politics of it and probably genuinely is also pro-choice but the bulk of the caucus are likely to be pro life. We can expect some limitations on foreign funding for women's healthcare and even some kind of ban on sex selection abortions as the slippery slope. Is any of this a threat to anyone in Canada's rights. No. But it's also a signal that they are socially conservative on other issues. A ban on children getting "gender affirming care" is also likely even if that has wider support so the Liberals aren't campaigning on it.

Hecate · #**6660** Posted **Apr 22, 2025, 1:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

Trudeau isn't Prime Minister

He was for the majority of the last decade and while doing so, became the first prime minister to break federal ethics laws…

And you guys didn’t care.