Canadian Federal Election

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

I don't think the 10% tariff is extended to Canada - thank you Carney!

Also saw the poll that showed most Canadians believe Carney is responsible for the cancellation of the carbon tax - I would love to be a fly on the wall at CPC HQ when that poll is reviewed - Jenni and Pierre in full meltdown!

Ultimately he is responsible. The Carbon tax his party implement had done absolutely nothing, Canadians were fed up with it, the liberals responded, which lead to its cancellation.

Plus, he is the one that literally signed off on the cancelled of the carbon tax.

[BlackDog204]

n/m....

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

I don't think the 10% tariff is extended to Canada - thank you Carney!

Also saw the poll that showed most Canadians believe Carney is responsible for the cancellation of the carbon tax - I would love to be a fly on the wall at CPC HQ when that poll is reviewed - Jenni and Pierre in full meltdown!

Full Downfall scene!

[MolsonExport]

Is that for real? Alberta cabinet minister wearing a MAGA hat?

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

But I’ve seen Poilievre’s plan, and surely you have to, to stand up to Trump, which is exactly in line with Carney… why do you say only one of the two is prepared to defend Canada?

Carney’s plan actually goes against Canada’s best interest and actually works for the USA… the one where he says he will not revoke Bill C69, that prohibits the development of infrastructure to get oil to the global market… that one leaves us dependent on the USA. So by Carney enforcing that, he ultimately leaves Canada completely vulnerable to the USA.

Poilievre, on the other hand, would revoke C69, allowing us to get oil to the global market, removing the noose the USA has around Canada’s neck when it comes to oil exports.

In that respect, Poilievre’s plan to fight back against the USA seems a hell of a lot better than Carney’s.

What is your rebuttals to that? In your opinion is it better for Canada for Carney to restrict our Oil industry to only the USA?

Didn't the Liberals just double the Transmountain pipeline to Vancouver?

And btw, our sovereignty depends on more than just oil. That isn't our only resource.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Dude, you are brainwashed. That is unbecoming of a nation that was known for it's tenancy in WW2. Did you know the Germans had a nickname for us? They called Canadians "the British SS," since they feared us.

Your grandparents must be rolling in their graves, knowing a member of their family is so soft and weak. No offence, but I have no tolerance for cowardice. You are going on ignore.

Man, Fuck you. Don’t call me a coward.

Logically, it makes sense for Canada to build out our Oil infrastructure to get away from the USA. But Carney will not do that. You support him not doing that… that makes you a coward for knowingly Canada to be dependent on the USA.

I don’t want that. I want to break free from their stranglehold they have on us and our economy. You don’t.

So fuck you, coward.

It is so very telling of your opinion, you not even answering a direct question I had for you, and instead go and call me a coward, then proceed to ignore me. SO SO SO weak you are.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Is that for real? Alberta cabinet minister wearing a MAGA hat?

It's not just him. The UCP chose Smith to replace Jason Kenney for a reason. They are all Maple MAGA. They adopted the MAGA agenda long ago. In Alberta some of us have seen the damage they are doing to the province. She is, by far, the worse Premier in Canada.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Is that for real? Alberta cabinet minister wearing a MAGA hat?

Yep. He's a real Hegseth level alcoholic POS. Just finished fucking with Calgary's Greenline and almost destroyed the entire project. Re-drew the line with a crayon (with Smith's help). Played politics and now the bids will be through the roof. Pure redneck Maga Meathead.

He lost his previous position as a cabinet minister under Kenney over this:

Agriculture Minister Devin Dreeshen resigns from his post following allegations of heavy drinking at work

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politic...nking-at-work-at-the-alberta-legislature

So of course Dani had to re-instate him!

[Hecate]

So why do you all ignore trump saying he’d prefer working with carney?

Why did the 51st state crap more or less stop once carney took over?

Why’d he show carney the respect of calling him prime minister?

Seems trump really would prefer carney to me. He even praised him on truth social! lol truth social, and said he and carney agreed on many things during their phone call, and the two of them have a lot of great work to do together after the election.

Carney even said the call was constructive, and that the two would look towards building a new economic and security deal between the two countries, after carney wins the election. carney also said trump respected our sovereignty in both public and private events.

Yet carney seems to constantly projecting the worst. Stoking the flames of fear. Even though he said they look forward to building a new deal, Just my observations.

Canadians are lemmings.

[Hecate]

Anyone who voted for captain blackface doesn’t get to bitch about a MAGA hat.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Hecate

So why do you all ignore trump saying he’d prefer working with carney?

Because everything he says is bullshit?

Originally Posted by Hecate

Why did the 51st state crap more or less stop once carney took over?

Because Carney specifically said there's no negotiating until that stops.

Originally Posted by Hecate

Why’d he show carney the respect of calling him prime minister?

Carney obviously knows how to talk to these wannabe dictator types.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

But I’ve seen Poilievre’s plan, and surely you have to, to stand up to Trump, which is exactly in line with Carney… why do you say only one of the two is prepared to defend Canada?

Carney’s plan actually goes against Canada’s best interest and actually works for the USA… the one where he says he will not revoke Bill C69, that prohibits the development of infrastructure to get oil to the global market… that one leaves us dependent on the USA. So by Carney enforcing that, he ultimately leaves Canada completely vulnerable to the USA.

Poilievre, on the other hand, would revoke C69, allowing us to get oil to the global market, removing the noose the USA has around Canada’s neck when it comes to oil exports.

In that respect, Poilievre’s plan to fight back against the USA seems a hell of a lot better than Carney’s.

What is your rebuttals to that? In your opinion is it better for Canada for Carney to restrict our Oil industry to only the USA?

The one question you need to ask, is the criticism of Bill C69 legitimate?

At the end of the day the pipelines we are talking about go through BC.

BC is in a unique position relative to the rest of Canada. Pre confederation the colonies of British Columbia and Vancouver Island signed very few treaties with indigenous communities. The few that were signed were on the east coast of Vancouver Island. This basically means a pipeline is going to be in unceded territory and the courts have made it clear consultation must occur. Bill C69 codifies that and many expects believe it actually reduces the likelihood of court challenges.

The idea that getting rid of C69 makes things easier is wishful thinking.

Bill C69 also reduces some times from the process that was in place before.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Didn't the Liberals just double the Transmountain pipeline to Vancouver?

And btw, our sovereignty depends on more than just oil. That isn't our only resource.

Liberals did double the pipeline. But it is obviously not enough to break free from the USA stranglehold they have on us. We want to sell to the globe, but C69 does not allow us, and Carney supports that, thereby we are wholeheartedly dependent on the USA, unfortunately.

I wholeheartedly agree with your second point. Oil is not our only resource. Fortunately a lot of our other resources have the avenues to be able to reach other trading partners.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Because everything he says is bullshit?



Because Carney specifically said there's no negotiating until that stops.



Carney obviously knows how to talk to these wannabe dictator types.

Guaranteed that if Trump said he’d rather work with Poilievre this forum would blow up, calling PP an ass licker, MAGA wannabee, etc… definitely not a response like “because everything he says is bullshit”.

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Man, Fuck you. Don’t call me a coward.

Logically, it makes sense for Canada to build out our Oil infrastructure to get away from the USA. But Carney will not do that. You support him not doing that… that makes you a coward for knowingly Canada to be dependent on the USA.

I don’t want that. I want to break free from their stranglehold they have on us and our economy. You don’t.

So fuck you, coward.

It is so very telling of your opinion, you not even answering a direct question I had for you, and instead go and call me a coward, then proceed to ignore me. SO SO SO weak you are.

Since he supposedly ignored you, I’m quoting this. I don’t think it’s fair to call someone who opposes your view a coward and then proceed to ignore the person so they can’t even answer back.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Because everything he says is bullshit?



Because Carney specifically said there's no negotiating until that stops.



Carney obviously knows how to talk to these wannabe dictator types.

So I’m guessing carneys statement on the call was bullshit too?

Keep telling yourself that.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by casper

The one question you need to ask, is the criticism of Bill C69 legitimate?

At the end of the day the pipelines we are talking about go through BC.

BC is in a unique position relative to the rest of Canada. Pre confederation the colonies of British Columbia and Vancouver Island signed very few treaties with indigenous communities. The few that were signed were on the east coast of Vancouver Island. This basically means a pipeline is going to be in unceded territory and the courts have made it clear consultation must occur. Bill C69 codifies that and many expects believe it actually reduces the likelihood of court challenges.

The idea that getting rid of C69 makes things easier is wishful thinking.

Bill C69 also reduces some times from the process that was in place before.

Good take. I do appreciate a civil response, not directly resorting to calling me a coward. I sincerely appreciate the thoughtful, lengthy response.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Guaranteed that if Trump said he’d rather work with Poilievre this forum would blow up, calling PP an ass licker, MAGA wannabee, etc… definitely not a response like “because everything he says is bullshit”.

100%. These people really believe trump respected carney because he told him too? Like how naive could you be, look what he did to Zelensky, if trump didn’t like carney that’s what would have happened when carney made his little “you have to respect us” remarks.

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

...Carney’s plan actually goes against Canada’s best interest and actually works for the USA… the one where he says he will not revoke Bill C69, that prohibits the development of infrastructure to get oil to the global market… that one leaves us dependent on the USA. So by Carney enforcing that, he ultimately leaves Canada completely vulnerable to the USA...

Originally Posted by Hackslack

...Logically, it makes sense for Canada to build out our Oil infrastructure to get away from the USA. But Carney will not do that...

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Liberals did double the pipeline. But it is obviously not enough to break free from the USA stranglehold they have on us. We want to sell to the globe, but C69 does not allow us, and Carney supports that, thereby we are wholeheartedly dependent on the USA, unfortunately...

You may want to read up on what Mr Carney is saying about energy these days. From today's Calgary Herald:

Mark Carney promises new approach to turn Canada into 'energy superpower'
The approach, he promised, will disrupt Canada's energy reliance on the U.S. while building up domestic clean energy sources and encourage a long-term competitive economy

Liberal Leader Mark Carney promised a robust approach to disrupt Canada’s energy reliance on the U.S. and turn the country into a “leading energy superpower,” during an event in Calgary on Wednesday.

The approach comes with three objectives — energy security, trade diversification and long-term competitiveness — Carney said at the International Association Of Bridge Structural, Ornamental and Reinforcing Iron Workers Local Union 725 building.

“As a nation, we’ve played it too safe by relying on the United States,” Carney said. “It’s time to realize our full potential.”
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https://calgaryherald.com/news/national/...es-new-approach-canada-energy-superpower

[casper]

Originally Posted by Hecate

So why do you all ignore trump saying he’d prefer working with carney?

Why did the 51st state crap more or less stop once carney took over?

Why’d he show carney the respect of calling him prime minister?

Seems trump really would prefer carney to me. He even praised him on truth social! lol truth social, and said he and carney agreed on many things during their phone call, and the two of them have a lot of great work to do together after the election.

Carney even said the call was constructive, and that the two would look towards building a new economic and security deal between the two countries, after carney wins the election. carney also said trump respected our sovereignty in both public and private events.

Yet carney seems to constantly projecting the worst. Stoking the flames of fear. Even though he said they look forward to building a new deal, Just my observations.

Canadians are lemmings.

Carney, is a former Goldman Sachs guy and former board chair of a major S&P 500 corporation (Brookfield) and was on the board of another S&P 500 corporation (Stripe).

Carney does not call other world leaders names. He is all business.

Trump likely sees Carney as someone that is going to sit down at a conference table and cut a deal.

Compare that to PP who has said, he would tell trump to "Cut it out." PP comes across far more emotional.