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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
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Has any debate really mattered in the last 20 years?
Does that necessarily prevent this year's ones from mattering?

EDIT: Not even sure that what you claim is true.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/bloc-debate-reaction-1.6176663
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Issues on 99.9% of Canadians minds:

- the economy and how a recession could put many people out of work
- Trump tariffs and America's current unpredictability and unreliability as an Ally, trading partner
- the high cost of housing, groceries, day to day living

Not on 99.9% of Canadian voters minds:
Israel

Issue on Acajack's mind:
The hordes of illegals ready to storm Canada's borders! sToP tHe hOrdE
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2025, 4:22 PM
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Wow, just wow. It's like October 7, 2023 never happened.
How many Palestinians need to die before Oct 7 is avenged? Honest question.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2025, 4:23 PM
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Issues on 99.9% of Canadians minds:

- the economy and how a recession could put many people out of work
- Trump tariffs and America's current unpredictability and unreliability as an Ally, trading partner
- the high cost of housing, groceries, day to day living

Not on 99.9% of Canadian voters minds:
Israel

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The hordes of illegals ready to storm Canada's borders! sToP tHe hOrdE
What the fuck? I was just sharing a news item.

Sure, guys.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2025, 4:27 PM
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Radio-Canada. Look up the thread.
Ok, got a link or was it some crank opinion piece?
     
     
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Of course the real consultations are bribes and fees to discuss and delay every project. Poilievre's poor track record is not giving into the grievance politics.
It's neat how you dismiss meaningful consultation and engagement with First Nations and Inuit as "bribes" and "grievance politics".
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2025, 4:28 PM
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What the fuck? I was just sharing a news item.

Sure, guys.
Not really. You posted a random "I heard this thing" without any context, source, numbers, or relevance. Typical post of yours throwing some shit against the wall and seeing what sticks.

Notably they are very often right-wing talking points or fearmongering.
     
     
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Agreed lets not import other peoples problems when we have our own. Though I prefer the Conservative approach rather than endless self-flagellation and pretending we are some unique dark force in history when we are one of the shining. Let's not go as far as lionizing him as the Americans do with their "founding fathers" but pretending the very rational and widely supported idea of schools to integrate Indigenous Canadians into the Christian western culture of Canada was somehow a permanent indictment of him.

As for the Liberals. Are we more reconciled than in 2015 and what exactly would success be?
I think we are. I was in Australia a few months ago, and my impression is they are on the same path as us. The wording if different, but the Australians also do land acknowledgments as well.

It is more than just using indigenous language on stop signs and buildings.

The issue with reconciliation is it can't be done nationally. It involves working with each community and coming up with a new deal for how that community is going to take control of its future. That is going to be slow process.

Here in BC a number of communities now own investment companies that own shopping centers, saw mills, retail stores, hotels etc. The values, culture, symbols of those communities are embedded into those businesses. They provide jobs for the community and generate revenue that helps pay for long-houses and other cultural centers. Many of the employees are non-indigenous.

Many of these communities are taking on the responsibility for environment guardianship and monitoring in their traditional territories.

Feds now require 5% of all federal procurement go to indigenous owned companies. That is a strong positive. These are smaller locally owned companies across the country many in smaller more remote communities.
     
     
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I wouldn't go quite that far, but I do agree that the Conservative's unconditional support for Israel tests my patience.
I actually think the federal Liberal government's official diplomatic approach on Israel-Gaza has been the most sensible one to take.

Where I have a problem is how authorities at all levels in all regions of Canada have been way too laissez-faire and even in some cases seemingly complicit when it comes to the constant anti-semitic rhetoric, intimidation and harassment of the pro-Gaza demonstrations we've been having for two and a half years.
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What the fuck? I was just sharing a news item.

Sure, guys.
A scary Fox News-esque issue that keeps Maple MAGA up at night. I guess if CBC didn't think it worthy of porting over to the English main network, it's not exactly a pressing issue for Canada, uh?
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You've now uttered that expletive to two fellow forumers.

Maybe it's time to log off for today, Acajack
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There are some posts on X of Conservative supporters being turned away from the rally because they had Trump and MAGA hats. Is it true the CPC is finally doing something about what their supporters have been wearing?

I hear Fuck Carney and Trudeau signs are still good...
     
     
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Here in BC a number of communities now own investment companies that own shopping centers, saw mills, retail stores, hotels etc. The values, culture, symbols of those communities are embedded into those businesses. They provide jobs for the community and generate revenue that helps pay for long-houses and other cultural centers. Many of the employees are non-indigenous.

Many of these communities are taking on the responsibility for environment guardianship and monitoring in their traditional territories.

Feds now require 5% of all federal procurement go to indigenous owned companies. That is a strong positive. These are smaller locally owned companies across the country many in smaller more remote communities.
No paying more for racist procurement policies is not positive. It's a zero some game. 5% also sounds small but don't forget if you build say a metal bridge a huge percentage of your cost is steel and specialized labour. The remaining 10% is now designated half for indigenous business. If you are painting the bridge in Sherbrooke where there might be one nation and 100km away you might have to pay 3X to get an Indigenous bidder.

Nobody has measured this precisely but insiders claim the TMX pipeline had literally more than a $billion perhaps billions plural including delays in extra costs from consultations and contracting rules.
     
     
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A scary Fox News-esque issue that keeps Maple MAGA up at night. I guess if CBC didn't think it worthy of porting over to the English main network, it's not exactly a pressing issue for Canada, uh?
Not sure how likely it is to happen. If but if it was to materialize, how is this not concerning though? The fact it is not a pressing matter right now is because it hasn’t happened yet. I bet the views on this matter would change very fast if tens of thousands started showing up at our borders or crossed illegally.
     
     
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Issues on 99.9% of Canadians minds:

- the economy and how a recession could put many people out of work
- Trump tariffs and America's current unpredictability and unreliability as an Ally, trading partner
- the high cost of housing, groceries, day to day living

Not on 99.9% of Canadian voters minds:
Israel

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The hordes of illegals ready to storm Canada's borders! sToP tHe hOrdE
This needs to be bookmarked for an I told you so. A border crisis seems highly likely given how things are going with the Americans right now.

And as usual only the Quebec media can talk about this.
     
     
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Fuck you. I posted an article a few lines later from Radio-Canada which is the one of the most credible news organizations in Canada by the most credible reporter on the migration file in the country.
I didn't see it, can you link to it again?

Edit: found it: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2154542/roxham-canada-trump-expulsion-asile
     
     
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I didn't see it, can you link to it again?
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2154542/roxham-canada-trump-expulsion-asile
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Thanks. For the record you did not post the link previously.

Maybe take a break.
     
     
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There are some posts on X of Conservative supporters being turned away from the rally because they had Trump and MAGA hats. Is it true the CPC is finally doing something about what their supporters have been wearing?

I hear Fuck Carney and Trudeau signs are still good...
Where did you hear that. Post a link… I’ll just copy/paste WarrenC12’s response.

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You posted a random "I heard this thing" without any context, source, numbers, or relevance. Typical post of yours throwing some shit against the wall and seeing what sticks.

Notably they are very often right-wingleft-wing talking points or fearmongering.
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You didn't.

This was your original post. No link.

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Apparently a huge number of people could be attempting to cross our borders in the next weeks and months.

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