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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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I am just completely fucking dumbfounded that in the midst of this trade war our government inisists on handcuffing our most important resource to the US!

Why aren’t all Canadians insisting on unlocking our natural resource power to break away from the US! Do you Carney supporters here also support his decision to keep our energy sector dependent on the USA… not repealing C-69 does just that.
Interesting that Canada and Mexico are out of the tariff launch dontchathink?

Carney is connected to so many republicans, yet he’s the guy who’s gonna stand up to them. lol.

I kinda hope carney wins cause I wanna see where this shit show is gonna go.

My prediction is carney and trump will make a “European style” North American union, offering us protection for access to our resources. possibly dissolving the Canadian currency and making it easier for the rich to get richer.

Remember when lefties were against businessmen running government, because businessmen are bad and government is not a business.
     
     
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lol this country is fucked if we insist on continuing to handicap ourselves and handicapping our economic potential.
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Interesting that Canada and Mexico are out of the tariff launch dontchathink?

Poilievre and the CPC are connected to so many republicans, yet he’s the guy who’s gonna stand up to them. lol.

I kinda hope Poilievre wins cause I wanna see where this shit show is gonna go.

My prediction is Poilievre and trump will make a “European style” North American union, offering us protection for access to our resources. possibly dissolving the Canadian currency and making it easier for the rich to get richer.
FYP.

You have Carney and Poilievre mixed up. Either that, or you are completely delusional.
     
     
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lol this country is fucked if we insist on continuing to handicap ourselves and handicapping our economic potential.
You sound exactly like Poilievre, insisting that Canada is broken, and we are stupid. No wonder you are a CPC partisan.
     
     
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You sound exactly like Poilievre, insisting that Canada is broken, and we are stupid. No wonder you are a CPC partisan.
Read the whole fucking sentence, dude, instead of taking snippets and thus taking things way out of context.

But if you insist on only reading the part that helps make your argument, you are stupid.

No wonder you a Liberal partisan, consistently trying to taint people as something they are not.
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"The issues the CPC is seen as strongest on are also the ones that matter the least to voters."

source: Angus Reid

It should be noted that Canadians are more concerned about the environment, than building pipelines or the energy sector, which is arguably in dead last, in terms of election priorities.

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I am just completely fucking dumbfounded that in the midst of this trade war, Danielle Smith and the UCP exploit the opportunity, to try to shakedown Ottawa by making a list of demands, that if not met within 6 months, she will attempt to hold a referendum on Alberta succeeding from Canada.
It is a weird list.

She believes the federal government is engaged in censorship over what the energy industry is allowed to say and one of her demand is for that stop. That one is nonsense.

Another demand is lifting the bans on plastic straws. Well Canada is aligned on that one with the EU, Australia, Japan, China, India and most of the world.

If she serious that plastic straws are a consideration of Albertans in staying in Canada?

She is upset there is a mandate to move to all new light vehicle sales being EVs by 2050.

While there may be places where we need to adjust environmental impact assessments to make them easier to achieve. Why would anyone take what she is asking for as remotely creditable. She, like Trump is all about theater and social media.
     
     
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Interesting that Canada and Mexico are out of the tariff launch dontchathink?
Aside from autos, it looks like the rest is subject to USMCA
     
     
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It is a weird list.

She believes the federal government is engaged in censorship over what the energy industry is allowed to say and one of her demand is for that stop. That one is nonsense.

Another demand is lifting the bans on plastic straws. Well Canada is aligned on that one with the EU, Australia, Japan, China, India and most of the world.

If she serious that plastic straws are a consideration of Albertans in staying in Canada?

She is upset there is a mandate to move to all new light vehicle sales being EVs by 2050.

While there may be places where we need to adjust environmental impact assessments to make them easier to achieve. Why would anyone take what she is asking for as remotely creditable. She, like Trump is all about theater and social media.
Danielle Smith is a stupid treasonous bitch. Why anyone takes what she says is mystifying. Plastic straws?! What a moron.
     
     
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Aside from autos, it looks like the rest is subject to USMCA
Also steel and aluminum. Are the 10% on oil and potash still in effect?
     
     
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Danielle Smith is a stupid treasonous bitch. ...
Dial it back a bit, please.
     
     
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Carney is connected to so many republicans, yet he’s the guy who’s gonna stand up to them. lol.
Please list the Republicans he is closely "connected to". Please also list the ones that Pierre is "connected to."

So Canada is looking good on the latest tariff list. And somehow that is bad for our PM? Do I have that right?

You are completely blinded by hate for the Liberals you are making even less sense than normal.
     
     
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What are you on about? Poilievre has explicitly said multiple times, that the Tories will not touch abortion, same sex marriage, or cannabis legislation.
     
     
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Please list the Republicans he is closely "connected to". Please also list the ones that Pierre is "connected to."

So Canada is looking good on the latest tariff list. And somehow that is bad for our PM? Do I have that right?

You are completely blinded by hate for the Liberals you are making even less sense than normal.
^This.

Hecate is delusional, if he is trying to paint Carney as being close to the MAGA movement. I thought it was a given, that the CPC inner circle is pro-Trump. It's been known for years, that the UPC of Alberta is more or less the Canadian equivalent of MAGA. It's amazing how misinformation shapes the political views of some.
     
     
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So pretty much status quo for Mexico and Canada. USMCA continue. Glad I can put my elbows down for now.
     
     
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So pretty much status quo for Mexico and Canada. USMCA continue. Glad I can put my elbows down for now.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but did Trump not say that he was going to impose 25% tariffs on all foreign made automobiles. Considering a huge percentage of American vehicles are manufactured in Canada and Mexico, would that not devastate the Canadian auto sector?
     
     
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Like he is still a major shareholder in the Company…
I mean he’s really not
     
     
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So pretty much status quo for Mexico and Canada. USMCA continue. Glad I can put my elbows down for now.
You will need to go down your local store and buy an elbow brace to keep them up. Double check to make certain it was made in Canada.

We still have 25% on autos, 25% steel and aluminum, 10% on oil and potash and I think 25% for random reasons that change every day.

Copper and forest products will be announced in the coming days.
     
     
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Danielle Smith is a stupid treasonous bitch. Why anyone takes what she says is mystifying. Plastic straws?! What a moron.
Danielle Smith's official statement in regards to the tariffs:


"Today was an important win for Canada and Alberta, as it appears the United States has decided to uphold the majority of the free trade agreement (CUSMA) between our two nations. It also appears this will continue to be the case until after the Canadian Federal election has concluded and the newly elected Canadian government is able to renegotiate CUSMA with the U.S. Administration.

This is precisely what I have been advocating for from the U.S. Administration for months. It means that the majority of goods sold into the United States from Canada will have no tariffs applied to them, including 0% tariffs on energy, minerals, agricultural products, uranium, seafood, potash and host of other Canadian goods."


more: https://x.com/ABDanielleSmith/status/1907558552069353798

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She habitually makes threats to the Federal Government for allegedly being unfair to the oil and gas industry, but has no problem throwing the Canadian steel, aluminium, and auto sectors under the bus.

Danielle Smith a modern day hybrid of British PM Neville Chamberlain and Norwegian traitor Vidkun Quisling.
     
     
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