Canadian Federal Election

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

You're right.

Carney should drop Chiang like a hot potato, and I disagree very strongly with his decision to back him.

On the whole though, I still prefer Carney over PP given the overall stench of the threats to the Canadian state wafting northward from Drumpf's asshole.

I agree completely with your take.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

Yeah the current CBC story is just going with "Carney under mounting pressure to dismiss candidate", which probably means he will drop the guy, likely once they figure out the replacement candidate. The situation seems too toxic for him to keep the guy around even if they can't get a replacement.

he needs to be gone by the end of the day - if not sooner

[LuluBobo]

https://press.liaisonstrategies.ca/saskatoon-conservatives-43-liberals-39/

Saskatoon specific poll

In the 2021 election, the Tories got 48% of the vote, so only a 5% drop. But the Liberals only got 11% of the vote, so +28% is pretty dramatic. Mostly comes at the expense of the NDP.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

he needs to be gone by the end of the day - if not sooner

Carney is sticking with Chaing. As a Liberal supporter, this is a huge mistake by Carney. Chaing should have been turfed. This may come back to haunt the Liberals, as from all indications, both parties are compromised by foreign bad faith actors.

I guess the question now is what nation do we feel less threatened by: India and MAGA (Conservatives) or China (Liberals).

[casper]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Carney is sticking with Chaing. As a Liberal supporter, this is a huge mistake by Carney. Chaing should have been turfed. This may come back to haunt the Liberals, as from all indications, both parties are compromised by foreign bad faith actors.

I guess the question now is what nation do we feel less threatened by: India and MAGA (Conservatives) or China (Liberals).

I think it was a mistake. He should have turfed the candidate and moved on.

I think our biggest concern should be India and Maga. China's foreign affairs have consistently focused on trade. With the exception of Taiwan that have shown little in the way of imperialist tendencies or to convert countries to their form of government. I think we should be concerned and keep our distance from China, but the US and India are bigger problems.

[trueviking]

I agree....he's making a mistake.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Mark Carney (or at least the Liberal Party of Canada) has slipped on another banana peel with francophones and the French language.

The "Build Canada Homes" agency they've just announced has a very weird unwieldy name in French that sounds like they just rammed the English name through Google Translate very quickly.

It's being mocked in thousands of posts on Quebec Twitter this morning.

what's the name?

Very interesting announcement.....could land or could be hugely controversial....

On one hand, its not a micro-policy like Pierre has been doing every day that are largely being ignored (even the good ones like the capital gains thing)....its a big idea that captures imagination and likely discussion.....but on the flip side, will the government being a developer (whatever that means) scare away the progressive conservative voters that have moved to him?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by trueviking

what's the name?

Very interesting announcement.....could land or could be hugely controvercial....will the government being a developer (whatever that means) scare away the progressive conservative voters that have moved to him? It's a pretty lefty idea....

"Bâtir Maisons Canada"

[samne]

Much more downside to keeping Chuang around. Carney should just get rid of him look strong, decisive and move on.

Keeping him around just opens up can of cozy China relation worms.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by Acajack

"Bâtir Maisons Canada"

even the english name 'Build Canada Homes' doesn't make sense...its sounds like they put the french name into google translate and pushed the english button.....bad both ways.

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Carney is sticking with Chaing. As a Liberal supporter, this is a huge mistake by Carney. Chaing should have been turfed. This may come back to haunt the Liberals, as from all indications, both parties are compromised by foreign bad faith actors.

I guess the question now is what nation do we feel less threatened by: India and MAGA (Conservatives) or China (Liberals).

Might this choice have something to do with the shortened Election timings and do the Liberal have a full slate of candidate's? Its hard to build an Aircraft while flying one.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Carney is sticking with Chaing. As a Liberal supporter, this is a huge mistake by Carney. Chaing should have been turfed. This may come back to haunt the Liberals, as from all indications, both parties are compromised by foreign bad faith actors.

I guess the question now is what nation do we feel less threatened by: India and MAGA (Conservatives) or China (Liberals).

That's a stupid mistake by Carney.

Mo Amir 🪬
@vancolour
Offering a bounty on your political opponent to be turned over to a hostile, foreign government (presumably so that they can be tortured) is a… “teachable moment”?

Also, it’s a crime under Section 264.1 of Canada’s Criminal Code.

You’d hope our Prime Minister would know this.

https://x.com/vancolour/status/1906715471619244320

[Gresto]

Carney should jettison that guy posthaste.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by trueviking

even the english name 'Build Canada Homes' doesn't make sense...its sounds like they put the french name into google translate and pushed the english button.....bad both ways.

I was thinking exactly this.

The only way the English name makes sense to me is if it's a series of agencies.

Build Homes Canada.

Build Infrastructure Canada.

Build Defence Canada.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

I guess the question now is what nation do we feel less threatened by: India and MAGA (Conservatives) or China (Liberals).

How about both?

In the short and medium terms, the former.

In the long term? The latter is a threat, not just to Canada, but to all democracies.

I will add, not just India and MAGA, but Russia too. We need to start taking the hybrid and information warfare by Russia and its cabal of mostly far-right outfits a lot more seriously. But on the same token, any anti-democratic sentiment should not be tolerated, like this Chiang affair. I really hope that Carney is yielding to election expediency here and will clean house if he wins.

[kiwi4353]

This will be a very important election.

Everyone needs to go out and vote.

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by shreddog

While I plan to vote LPC, like Carney, and detest PP, I find it curious that the LPC/anti-CPC crowd are more focused on spilled pizzas than what Chiang said and the reluctance of Carney to respond. The LPC have known about this for a while, yet vetted and approved Chiang. Carney should have dropped him IMMEDIATELY (even it they couldn't get a replacement). But hey, PP dropped a pizza.

Kinda sad where our priorities lie ...

More focused? I didn't see the prior posts talking about the dropped pizza, if there were any, but I did see lots of posts about Chaing. Sorry if I missed the rule where I couldn't poke fun at PP before first talking about a Liberal failure.

[Truenorth00]

Who the hell is Pierre's speechwriter?

[casper]

Originally Posted by trueviking

what's the name?

Very interesting announcement.....could land or could be hugely controversial....

On one hand, its not a micro-policy like Pierre has been doing every day that are largely being ignored (even the good ones like the capital gains thing)....its a big idea that captures imagination and likely discussion.....but on the flip side, will the government being a developer (whatever that means) scare away the progressive conservative voters that have moved to him?

I like what Saskatoon does. The municipal government buys farm land just outside of the city and bring it into its land bank. When apropriate to meet demand it will rezone, create a subdivision, build roads, infrastructure, etc. A resident has first right to buy a parcel of land if they want to build their own home at a fixed price. All other parcels are sold off to developers who actually build the homes.

In that setup the city controls how the city grows. In reality all the work is done by sub-contractors who either bid to build the sub-division or buy lots to develop.

Carney is proposing modular homes. Certain at the end of the day, its not going to be government employees build housing but doing contract management. No shortage of modular home builders out there these days.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Acajack

"Bâtir Maisons Canada"

Would "Construire des maisons Canada" work? That seems closer to how awkward it is in English too.

Like I said above, I think it's not so much the translation as the naming convention. It only makes sense if it's a series of agencies that is "Build ... Canada.

What's Pierre's "Build the homes" en Français?