Canadian Federal Election - Page 195

Marshsparrow · #**3881** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 12:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

I agree with Travis3000, the Tory support maybe falling but it's base foundation is rock solid which I wouldn't say for Carney and the Liberals. It wouldn't take much of a sway for the Tories to regain the lead but even if they do, the Tory base tends to be more concentrated and hence less productive.

Also, the bleeding from the Tories to the Liberals has actually been rather small. The Liberals have overwhelmingly seen their rise due to the plunge in NDP support and, to a lesser extent, the Bloc.

For myself, I am one of those once Tory voters who has now changed to Carney and I called Conservative headquarters in Ottawa to tell them that and why my sister & brother have done the same. I told them that PP can't control an industrial sized mouth piece that is Smith but his silence on the matter of her seeking foreign influence to change the outcome of the election was unconscionable.

The only way for the Conservatives to win is for the NDP and BQ to gain momentum. But PP spent the last 2 years discrediting and trashing Singh - so he has himself to blame if the support remains low.

I watched his security clearance answer - it was actually pretty good - but then he droaned on and on and on about things that were untrue, misinformation and borderline conspiracy... people don't want to hear this from him.

missing_middle · #**3882** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 12:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Carney's job at Brookfield was to look after his clients assets. He was simply fulfilling his fiduciary duties. I don't know how you can attack him for that. People do that all the time.

In medicine, we often do things that we may feel morally uncomfortable about, but, since it is in our patient's best interests, we do it anyway.

There is no difference.

Think my problem with him being at Brookfield is that on some level "asset management" is basically being good at rent-seeking.

Some of the things that are reported about Brookfield are not flattering and I wonder just where did the Liberals get the advice to do an immigration surge post-covid?

ToxiK · #**3883** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by casper

He is participating in one French language debate organized by the committee that is responsible for organizing debates. He is declined a second French language debate organized by a single TV station.

If he did not want to debate in French he would have declined both French debates.

We will see how good or bad his French is in that debate. However, the TVA debate is usually more of a true debate and less of a tribune to showcase a party's program. You dont just read your program, you have to defend it against other leaders, so you need more skills to think on your feet.

MolsonExport · #**3884** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gresto

Egads, I didn't know it was physically possible to fit so much asshole and douche into such a small area without the space-time continuum bursting apart in disgusted rebellion.

And those pics with O'Leary, Smith, and Dump just radiate smarmy plutocratic slime schmoozing with a sycophant who cheerfully does its bidding.

I needed a laugh. Thanks for this on-target appraisal of the incredible quantity of assbaggery in these photographs. Maple Magas with the golden turd himself. Lord CONradical Black of Asscrack Harbour, Danielle Maple Maga Smith, Kevin O'Leering, Whoredan Peterson, and Cucky Tarlson.

Taeolas · #**3885** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:14 PM**

The CPC also need to stop giving ammo to the LPC, and while she technically isn't CPC, reigning in Premiere Smith would be a good step in that direction.

She's going back down to Florida apparently to give another speech with Ben Shapiro, which I'm sure is going to do wonders for the CPC campaign. At this point I'm thinking PP's campaign people are wishing she would just stay in her office in Edmonton and be quiet, at least for the next month.

Takeoff · #**3886** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Taeolas

The CPC also need to stop giving ammo to the LPC, and while she technically isn't CPC, reigning in Premiere Smith would be a good step in that direction.

She's going back down to Florida apparently to give another speech with Ben Shapiro, which I'm sure is going to do wonders for the CPC campaign. At this point I'm thinking PP's campaign people are wishing she would just stay in her office in Edmonton and be quiet, at least for the next month.

There was a time when Party leaders would tell premiers to hide/showoff. Now it’s the opposite.

le calmar · #**3887** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by ToxiK

I use to think his knowledge of French was good enough (even if not great), but recent interviews and questions answering left me in doubts. Now with Carney avoiding a French debate, it raises even more doubts.

I haven't heard him speak French much yet, but he wasn't that bad in that joint press conference with Macron. Granted he read through a good chunk of it, but he was still able to let go of his script and make it seems natural, sort of. But there were a few times he mumbled something that was not very clear.

The main issue was the fact he can't say more than 4 or 5 words without pausing, which affects his flow. I imagine he probably struggles more when he has to answer a question on the spot or has to take part in an actual discussion.

Acajack · #**3888** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:45 PM**

On Sean Fraser (Central Nova - NS) choosing to run again after he said he wouldn't - was there already a Liberal candidate in his old riding? I would think so, but not sure...

travis3000 · #**3889** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

On Sean Fraser (Central Nova - NS) choosing to run again after he said he wouldn't - was there already a Liberal candidate in his old riding? I would think so, but not sure...

Yes, they had a guy nominated and announced. Then Fraser called and took it back. A bit unethical but hey this is how politics works. Fraser is a star candidate who is a net positive for the party.

Acajack · #**3890** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

Yes, they had a guy nominated and announced. Then Fraser called and took it back. A bit unethical but hey this is how politics works. Fraser is a star candidate who is a net positive for the party.

I suppose that guy will be rewarded in some way if and when they get elected, in exchange for not making a stink about this.

kwoldtimer · #**3891** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I suppose that guy will be rewarded in some way if and when they get elected, in exchange for not making a stink about this.

No doubt.

kwoldtimer · #**3892** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

Yes, they had a guy nominated and announced. Then Fraser called and took it back. A bit unethical but hey this is how politics works. Fraser is a star candidate who is a net positive for the party.

Star candidate and potential future Liberal leader, if he can keep the family thing together.

Acajack · #**3893** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

No doubt.

In French this is known as "un retour d'ascenseur", which means "you owe me to send the elevator back for me once you've ridden it to the top".

Acajack · #**3894** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Star candidate and potential future Liberal leader, if he can keep the family thing together.

Yes, but his parlay-voo is on the same level as Mark Carney's, or maybe worse.

But maybe that don't matter so much anymore!

kwoldtimer · #**3895** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

In French this is known as "un retour d'ascenseur", which means "you owe me to send the elevator back for me once you've ridden it to the top".

"One hand washes the other".

LuluBobo · #**3896** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:58 PM**

There's a bit of an anointed feeling to Carney. In a normal election, it wouldn't bode well. A few of the gaffes come from an unfamiliarity with being in the spotlight.

If he adapts well, he might win again. If not, he will likely lose the next election. With it looking like PP losing his commanding lead, I suspect the Tories oust him. Singh is certainly gone.

Carney after ~14 years of Liberal rule could face an uphill battle against a fresh centrist Tory and fresh NDP.

Acajack · #**3897** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 1:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gresto

I had no issue with his English, and he seemed like an agreeable, intelligent chap, but he was a dreadful leader in terms of projecting strength and self-confidence. As I recall, his chin literally quivered when he was under pressure. Politics is too cutthroat for someone like him.

This interview, where he appeared to not understand certain questions and spoke incomprehensibly, sunk Stéphane Dion as a credible cross-Canada politician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3X_BUUZkZ8

jamincan · #**3898** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 2:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Taeolas

The CPC also need to stop giving ammo to the LPC, and while she technically isn't CPC, reigning in Premiere Smith would be a good step in that direction.

She's going back down to Florida apparently to give another speech with Ben Shapiro, which I'm sure is going to do wonders for the CPC campaign. At this point I'm thinking PP's campaign people are wishing she would just stay in her office in Edmonton and be quiet, at least for the next month.

People with an inflated opinion of themselves often lack the humility to understand that they may be the problem in a situation.

Truenorth00 · #**3899** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 2:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

This interview, where he appeared to not understand certain questions and spoke incomprehensibly, sunk Stéphane Dion as a credible cross-Canada politician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3X_BUUZkZ8

Your perspective (where everything is about language). I don't recall a single discussion around that interview. What I do recall was a Conservative campaign that made Dion's signature policy ("The Green Shift") seem like an absolute threat to jobs and quality of life. And indeed, I do think a lot of the current Conservative "Axe the tax" rhetoric was very much based on their successful campaign against Dion's Green Shift.

P'tit Renard · #**3900** Posted **Mar 26, 2025, 2:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

Yes, they had a guy nominated and announced. Then Fraser called and took it back. A bit unethical but hey this is how politics works. Fraser is a star candidate who is a net positive for the party.

His resume so far is basically being the worst immigration minister in living memory and single handledly destroying Canada's long treasured immigration consensus just to saddle the GTA with sky high unemployment rates and hundreds of thousands of fake students.

I guess he's a star candidate in the eyes of the pro-immigration ponzi scheme Ford-Trudeau partisan.

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Star candidate and potential future Liberal leader, if he can keep the family thing together.

This would be a death blow to Canada, it's as foolish as promoting Doug Ford to be Conservative leader and PM.