Canadian Federal Election

[travis3000]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Federal - Toronto Polling:

LPC: 50%
CPC: 31%
NDP: 14%
GPC: 3%
PPC: 1%

Leger / March 13, 2025 / n=201 / Online


Talk about "painting the town red!"

Assuming this is just the city of Toronto, seems to be on par with 2021 and 2019 margins.

[travis3000]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Was she actually encouraging foreign interference? suggesting a pause on tariffs until after the election seems like a reasonable thing to say, especially in response to a question.

^You must get your information from Rick Bell over at the Sun. But calls of treason and arrest are also just as looney.

The fact remains she was unethical and absolutely tried to pitch Poilievre to US officials. Her words, linking PP to the current US administration will hurt him no doubt. She was trying to help him, when in fact she did the opposite. She also tried to stop the tariff talk until after the election BECAUSE it was hurting the Conservatives in the polls. Straight from her mouth.

It's not like she was just casually telling the host that holding off on tariffs would be mutually beneficial for the countries. She sold the idea with the INTENT of trying to affect the outcome.

Criminal? Let's be real. Nobody is going to come arresting her. But its horrible optics and ethically bankrupt.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by travis3000

Assuming this is just the city of Toronto, seems to be on par with 2021 and 2019 margins.

The Liberals had a 20 point lead in the city of Toronto in 2019? That seems high. Wikipedia says they had 47% in Central Toronto (11 ridings they swept) so they must have had less than 51% city wide.

[BlackDog204]

Not too long ago, I jokingly stated that for Poilievre to implement his 15% tax cut, he would literally need to call Elon Musk and create a Canadian version of D.O.G.E.

To my amusement, I just returned home from work, and "#CanadianDOGE" is trending on social media. Guess who is the subject?





So it is obviously not just me, who sees through PP. It should be noted that a significant percentage of people posting, actually want a Canadian version of DOGE. All Conservatives, of course. Canada is so fucked if we elect the Conservatives.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Not too long ago, I jokingly stated that for Poilievre to implement his 15% tax cut, he would literally need to call Elon Musk and create a Canadian version of D.O.G.E.

To my amusement, I just returned home from work, and "#CanadianDOGE" is trending on social media. Guess who is the subject?





So it is obviously not just me, who sees through PP. The guy is such a phony.

We could use some systematic cuts to our bloated bureaucracy but for any even remotely persuadable voters DOGE has made the whole idea toxic. Conservative fanboys aren't helping their cause.

[Northern Light]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

I mean the Liberals are promising a 7% cut of the same tax bracket. It's not that wildly different.

The hit to the treasury is the billions for both. We'll have to await fully costed platforms, but given a structural deficit the 10s of billions, many pressing needs, including billions more for defense and some desire for expensive new infrastructure from pipelines to HSR....... both proposed cuts seem unwise.

That said, the difference between to the two is not trivial, one cut is 125% larger than the other. That difference is an annual impact in the billions.

The Conservatives have been clear they want to transition Childcare to being a more open-ended program with parents getting x dollars towards childcare instead of direct subsidies to childcare facilities.

Canadians have already had that version of the program under Harper and voted him out.

Quebec already had higher fees for high income earners and they voted that out.

We don't need to keep reinventing the wheel. Canadians collectively prefer uniformly priced, affordable childcare. There can be some debate as to the rate, but lets no un-do and re-do the same programs over and over again.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

The Liberals had a 20 point lead in the city of Toronto in 2019? That seems high. Wikipedia says they had 47% in Central Toronto (11 ridings they swept) so they must have had less than 51% city wide.

The Liberals have a much more substantial lead now, than in either 2021 or 2019 in Toronto.




Latest polling.

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

...I feel like people would be up in arms if Poilievre were skipping a debate...

Narrator: "Mr Poilievre did skip a debate"

CBC: Poilievre to skip 3rd Conservative leadership debate as voting continues

National Post: Poilievre, Lewis to be fined $50,000 each for not attending third official leadership debate

RCI: Analysis | While Poilievre mocks, his Conservative leadership rivals offer a few parting words
'You have to actually show up,' says Jean Charest

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by travis3000

Criminal? Let's be real. Nobody is going to come arresting her. But its horrible optics and ethically bankrupt.

With all due respect, you live in Ontario, and may not be familiar with what is happening in Alberta. Smith is under investigation for corruption, arguably never seen before in provincial politics. It's bad.

Not only that, but why would a Premier of Canada undermine Canada, by going down to Mar-a-Lago, and coming up with Trump and the GOP? Did she really have to go once, twice, three times?

Attend the Trump inauguration, when she was never officially invited? What is she doing on the US far-right talk how circuit? Brietbart and Ben Shapiro? Even if she never openly admitted that she was attempting to get the Trump Administration to interfere in our elections, she is still doing things that undermine Canadian sovereignty.

I find it terrible that there are Canadians on this forum, who are so brainwashed by right wing propaganda, that they dismiss this as no big deal. Did you people really want to head down the same road that Trump is leading Americans on?

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Just in case some here wilfully ignored the charge, here it is again:

Smith told U.S. administration officials that she hoped "we could put things on pause," so Canada could get through an election, she told Breitbart. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is more aligned with the Trump administration's agenda, Smith said.

but enough about that. let's get back to the real issues, like how Carney is a Socialist, his wife's sister's association with Ghislaine Maxwell, and the persecution of Christians in Canada.

Shout out to Hecate, Samne, and Acajack for keeping the discussion focused on the real issues. Thanks guys.

This is where the ignore function comes in handy...

[theman23]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

Narrator: "Mr Poilievre did skip a debate"

CBC: Poilievre to skip 3rd Conservative leadership debate as voting continues

National Post: Poilievre, Lewis to be fined $50,000 each for not attending third official leadership debate

RCI: Analysis | While Poilievre mocks, his Conservative leadership rivals offer a few parting words
'You have to actually show up,' says Jean Charest

Yes, and like Marty McFly said, the reaction on this forum was not as understanding:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244885&highlight=Poilievre+debate+skip&page=181

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

With all due respect, you live in Ontario, and may not be familiar with what is happening in Alberta. Smith is under investigation for corruption, arguably never seen before in provincial politics. It's bad.

Not only that, but why would a Premier of Canada undermine Canada, by going down to Mar-a-Lago, and coming up with Trump and the GOP? Did she really have to go once, twice, three times?

Attend the Trump inauguration, when she was never officially invited? What is she doing on the US far-right talk how circuit? Brietbart and Ben Shapiro? Even if she never openly admitted that she was attempting to get the Trump Administration to interfere in our elections, she is still doing things that undermine Canadian sovereignty.

I find it terrible that there are Canadians on this forum, who are so brainwashed by right wing propaganda, that they dismiss this as no big deal. Did you people really want to head down the same road that Trump is leading Americans on?

I think you overestimate Smith's relevance. From here in Ontario, she's a minor figure.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Canada is so fucked if we elect the Conservatives.

Let's not mention the past nine years that got us to this point.

[casper]

Originally Posted by elly63

Let's not mention the past nine years that got us to this point.

It has not been perfect. Progress has been made and more process is needed.

Another day. Another two ads from the Liberals, on Gander and Sep 11. The other a conversation on the bench at the rink. All very positive, celebrating our successes and looking to the future.

The conservatives are still focused on being negative. I have no idea which method is regarded as the best, but I am clearly with the Liberals.

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[kwoldtimer]

At least he avoided "Mr" Prime Minister (sorry, pet peeve).

[Dougler306]

With Crony carneys horrible French, the saying of i won't do a French debate and English only hurts the liberals in quebec and with no JT, the fairytale of Quebec voting liberl is gone. Thabk God most young and new canadians see right through carney for who he really is...an american buisnessman. Liberals will lose

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

At least he avoided "Mr" Prime Minister (sorry, pet peeve).

Is that so wrong? 😅

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by Dougler306

With Crony carneys horrible French, the saying of i won't do a French debate and English only hurts the liberals in quebec and with no JT, the fairytale of Quebec voting liberl is gone. Thabk God most young and new canadians see right through carney for who he really is...an american buisnessman. Liberals will lose

He's doing a French debate - he's just not doing the TVA debate

Federal 🇨🇦 voting intentions from the Angus Reid Institute:

🔴LPC 46%
🔵CPC 38%
🟠NDP 7%
⚜️BQ 6% (27% in QC)
🟢GPC 1%
🟣PPC 1%


[Angus Reid, March 21-24, 2025, n=2,400]

[Acajack]

Latest Nanos is interesting if someone wants to pull it up.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

What is the mood in Calgary from the political fallout from Smith not only encouraging foreign interference, but meeting Ben Shapiro on the taxpayers dime?

She was never the most popular Premier in Edmonton..

It’s hard to say cause there’s such a mix of people I know. Many loathe her. My wife’s family, some of whom used to vote conservative, universally despise her. My family is a mix. I also live in a solid blue riding that would elect a fence post if it said conservative on it. My MLA is also a minister who flies under the radar.

My overall gut feeling is that she’s sinking though. The AHS scandal isn’t going away and co-workers and basically everyone I speak to doesn’t want to be the 51st state so her groupie tours to Florida and Washington aren’t very popular. We’re not in Redford or Kenney territory yet though.