Canadian Federal Election

[MolsonExport]

I never said the Christians were discriminated against in Canada, only that Christianity was less fashionable and revered than other minority religions are.

I think that's quite true and fairly easy to demonstrate.

Man, I don't know how your opinions are formed, but this is just a ridiculous statement to make. We have many dozens of MPs in Canada that are elected in part because of their espoused Christian faith. Christianity is by far the most dominant religion in Canada.

It's like saying that Quebecois and francophones "are less fashionable and revered than other ethnic and linguistic groups in Chicoutimi". You can say it. You can believe it. But that does not make it true, and the burden of proof lies with the person making the (frankly, ridiculous) assertion.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Latest Pallas Data poll (just released):

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⚜️BQ 7%
������GPC 2%
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Seat projection:

LPC 189
CPC 123
Bloc 26
NDP 4
Green 1

All of the polls posted so far today have been remarkably close in terms of voter intention and seat count. Carney could have a majority government if he is able to stave off PP's vitriol and invective.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by suburbanite

Does anyone actually read past the headline anymore?

The second paragraph says his proposal is cutting the tax rate on the lowest bracket (up to $55,867) from 15% to 12.75%.

Before you would pay 0.15($55,867) = $8,380

After you would pay 0.1275($55,867) = $7,123

You now pay $1,256 less in taxes. $1,256/$8380 = 15%

Saying he can fund this by "trimming the federal government bureaucracy" is up for debate depending on what you consider to be excessive federal spending.

If all 28 million people who filed a tax return in Canada only earned an income that was half of the lowest bracket (to be ultra conservative in accounting for all those who probably don't have any traditional income), that would equate to a reduction in tax revenue of $17.6 billion. If all of them earned the full $55,867, it would be a $35 billion reduction. The realistic number is probably somewhere in between. From what I can see, spending on federal personnel increased by about $14 billion just between 2020 and 2022.

OK - thx for explaining this - so Pierre has somewhat mislead with the 15% claim - so the Carney 1% tax cut is really 7.5% based on Conservative math?

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Saying people have an issue with Merry Christmas is fake news? That's total nonsense. There obviously isn't a ban but have not heard a government leader say it in years and if you say it to the wrong person you will absolutely get (mild) pushback.

Government offices have asked people to not eat at there desks during Ramadan.

First two sentences: "Hello Everyone. Merry Christmas!"

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Delivered right in front of a Christmas tree.

I am not going to let the bullshit slide.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Man, I don't know how your opinions are formed, but this is just a ridiculous statement to make. We have many dozens of MPs in Canada that are elected in part because of their espoused Christian faith. Christianity is by far the most dominant religion in Canada.

It's actually entirely logical that that fact is why it might be more socially acceptable in certain circles to crap on it, or be indifferent to people crapping on it?

Does anyone have any social media posts from Canadian politicians deploring the burning down of 33 Catholic churches since 2021?

I'll happily stand corrected if there are a number of them.

EDIT: And 85 Catholic churches have been damaged by fire or vandalism since 2021.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Since 2007 Alberta has contributed over five times the amounts BC and Ontario have contributed to federal finances.

I'm still waiting for you to back up this assertion with factual evidence.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

Saying people have an issue with Merry Christmas is fake news?

It's just a fringe group of people doing so. Not to be taken seriously.

Some people will complain about anything. Being from Winnipeg, there was a group called "Black Space Winnipeg" that was opposed to the "Winnipeg Whiteout," a 40 year old tradition, where fans of the Winnipeg Jets dress in White gear, and cheer on their hockey team. The idea was concocted in the 80s, as a counter to the "Sea of Red," a Calgary tradition where Flames fans dress up red during the playoffs.

The group claimed it was "intimidating to minorities." It was absolutely ridiculous.

Advocacy group calls for critical thinking on language amid whiteout celebrations

[samne]

Christmas parties at work and Christmas concerts at school are now Holiday parties and Holiday concerts.

Who can forget the Holiday Tree at Toronto City Hall.

Not saying I’m either way, just saying this is how it is now.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by samne

Christmas parties at work and Christmas concerts at school are now Holiday parties and Holiday concerts.

Who can forget the Holiday Tree at Toronto City Hall.

Not saying I’m either way, just saying this is how it is now.

It does seem like there is a bit of a pullback on the semi-voluntary ban on the word "Christmas" that probably reached its peak a couple of years ago.

Nonetheless there are still lots of public institutions and private organizations that won't use the word these days.

Especially for the privates, obviously it's their choice. But some people do notice and it looks silly to insist that none of this has been going on, ever.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by samne

Christmas parties at work and Christmas concerts at school are now Holiday parties and Holiday concerts.

Who can forget the Holiday Tree at Toronto City Hall.

Not saying I’m either way, just saying this is how it is now.

With so many crucial issues to address in the Federal election, mainly a threat to our sovereignty by the Trump Administration, I cannot believe people would try and make this a huge issue.

It's not important, relatively speaking.

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by travis3000

You can kiss childcare and dental goodbye.

I don't think that is necessarily true regardless of whether we have a Liberal or Tory gov't. What we will see is getting rid of the "universal" part of those programs. In other words, they will become means tested which is what they should have been in the first place.

I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of Canadians support subsidized daycare and basic dental care for low income people and their children, however when those same programs offer the same support for the Galen Westons of this world, not so much.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It's actually entirely logical that that fact is why it might be more socially acceptable in certain circles to crap on it, or be indifferent to people crapping on it?

Does anyone have any social media posts from Canadian politicians deploring the burning down of 33 Catholic churches since 2021?

I'll happily stand corrected if there are a number of them.

EDIT: And 85 Catholic churches have been damaged by fire or vandalism since 2021.

Not that it matters, but more for social/political reasons than religious reasons, no?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

With so many crucial issues to address in the Federal election, mainly a threat to our sovereignty by the Trump Administration, I cannot believe people would try and make this a huge issue.

It's not important, relatively speaking.

The discussion primarily drags on because people dig in and deny it's ever happened.

Two reactions that might have made the discussion a lot shorter:

"Yeah, it's kind of silly. People with noble intentions are sometimes guilty of overreach."

OR

"Yes we're doing it and it's great that we're doing it. Inclusivity is super important and we shouldn't back down on it."

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Not that it matters, but more for social/political reasons than religious reasons, no?

Anti-semitism and islamophobia similarly exist for a variety of reasons, do they not?

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

First two sentences: "Hello Everyone. Merry Christmas!"

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Delivered right in front of a Christmas tree.

I am not going to let the bullshit slide.

If he shows his face after that

In case he thinks it's a one off

2023 - first 2 words

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2022 - first 2 words

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2021 - first 2 words

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you get the gist

[samne]

Years ago my kids school had a bbq and only offered vegetarian or halal hot dogs to accommodate a very small number of students. I get it. I don’t care, I eat halal meat at restaurants often. However, that’s not everyone.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Anti-semitism and islamophobia similarly exist for a variety of reasons, do they not?

Yes, including mental illness in many "religious attacks".

[samne]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

With so many crucial issues to address in the Federal election, mainly a threat to our sovereignty by the Trump Administration, I cannot believe people would try and make this a huge issue.

It's not important, relatively speaking.

Agreed it’s off topic. More of a societal conversation.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by samne

Years ago my kids school had a bbq and only offered vegetarian or halal hot dogs to accommodate a very small number of students. I get it. I don’t care, I eat halal meat at restaurants often. However, that’s not everyone.

The cross-pollination between people who are deferential/reverential when it comes to halal meats (and slaughter) and your typical animal welfare advocate types, is pretty interesting.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

If he shows his face after that

In case he thinks it's a one off

...

you get the gist

Way to spoil a narrative, Frankie