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Canada is in a recession and Trump is the scapegoat.
You can't be serious. Trump is the sole reason that the World economic forecast, has been revised, so that most nations will see little, if any growth for 2025, due to the uncertainly with tariffs, and political instability in the richest nation on Earth.

Trump is dragging down the entire global economy

Federal Reserve cuts US economic growth outlook under Trump tariffs
     
     
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Imagine thinking the two-time central banker with a PhD in Economics, who just promised a marginal tax cut, undid the capital gains tax, and eliminated the consumer carbon tax is a socialist.

This must be satire?

Socialists can’t get PhD’s?

I call bait and switch for election convenience on those tax cuts.

I don’t know what his history as a Central Banker would suggest. People in England seem to think he was a disaster there.

BTW, China and Cuba both have Central Bankers…
     
     
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Canada was on a slippery slope prior to Trump. The idea of a per capita recession has been brought up many times. Trump's nonsensical fantasies about 19th century economic policies will likely turn our per capita recession into a technical recession.
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You can't be serious. Trump is the sole reason that the World economic forecast, has been revised, so that most nations will see little, if any growth for 2025, due to the uncertainly with tariffs, and political instability in the richest nation on Earth.

The gaslighting is very real.

Canada has been hiding recession with mass immigration for a while now. Tariffs might add fuel to what was already happening.
     
     
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Canada was on a slippery slope prior to Trump. The idea of a per capita recession has been brought up many times. Trump's nonsensical fantasies about 19th century economic policies will likely turn our per capita recession into a technical recession.

Canada's GDP gained momentum to end 2024, beating expectations
     
     
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Nothing in the article contradicts what I said.
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Very strange. I am Christian too. I say and have received "Merry Christmas" from numerous people at work. Even Muslims wish me a Merry Christmas. Yet Muslims and Sikhs are legitimately discriminated against on a regular basis.

If you honestly think there is more discrimination against Christians, than there is with Muslims, Jews, or Sikhs, than you need to get out more.
As someone else said, the unease and even hostility towards Christianity typically comes from people who are from a former Christian background. Not from people of non-Christian faiths, a tiny number of fringe extremists notwithstanding.

These people (the ex-Christians) can indeed be hostile or cringe at stuff like "Merry Christmas" because they are paranoid about offending non-Christians. (Actually they seem to want to get offended for non-Christians, by proxy.)

BTW, I never said the Christians were discriminated against in Canada, only that Christianity was less fashionable and revered than other minority religions are.

I think that's quite true and fairly easy to demonstrate.

How many politicians deplored the Catholic church burnings? There was basically an epidemic of them at one point, and not a peep was heard from the people in power.

Paint a single swastika on a synagogue or put a single pig's head in front of a mosque (both of which are ugly manifestations of hate I agree) and the entire political class falls all over each other to make a statement.
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Canada has been hiding recession with mass immigration for a while now. Tariffs might add fuel to what was already happening.
Yeah, we've been on shaky ground with the economy for a number of years now. I'd call it a recession, even if 'officially' it doesn't appear so. Disposable incomes have been shrinking since COVID/prior to it, and sector/job growth has been sluggish - the influx os newcomers has just added a rosy filter to the big picture.
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Are you just a headline grabber?

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The main contributor to growth was household spending, which rose by 1.4%
Guess what the Liberal HST holiday did. Smoke and mirrors.

BTW inflation numbers back up since HST holiday ended…
     
     
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As someone else said, the unease and even hostility towards Christianity typically comes from people who are from a former Christian background. Not from people of non-Christian faiths, a tiny number of fringe extremists notwithstanding.
Any anti-Christian acts or discrimination is easily dwarfed by what non-Christian religions experience on a daily basis. Having said that, we are venturing off-topic, and this is the last post I will make about this issue.
     
     
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Latest Pallas Data poll (just released):

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Socialists can’t get PhD’s?

I call bait and switch for election convenience on those tax cuts.

I don’t know what his history as a Central Banker would suggest. People in England seem to think he was a disaster there.

BTW, China and Cuba both have Central Bankers…
Agree he can absolutely be a socialist with a PHD. He'd be a pretty unique socialist as a Goldman Sachs to central banker but the definition of communism now includes a mask mandate an carbon tax so by that definition sure.

He was so successful as BoC chair he was essentially promoted. There isn't much criticism of his tenure there except by Brexiteers unhappy he warned about the risk of that and by Truss who was a disaster and wants to blame someone else.

None of that means he is what we need right now but throwing nonsense claims just makes real criticisms stick less.
     
     
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Any anti-Christian acts or discrimination is easily dwarfed by what non-Christian religions experience on a daily basis. .
I actually don't disagree, though guys like you lose me when you say stuff like "on a daily basis".
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Debates April 17 (French) and 18 (English).

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The commission picked CBC/Radio-Canada to produce and put on the debates, and named longtime TVO journalist Steve Paikin to host the English-language debate. Radio-Canada's Patrice Roy will host the French-language debate.
So the English debate is after the French one. That should work well for Carney; any hits he takes for mangling la Belle Langue, should be covered from a better performance the next night. I hope he's doing a lot of practice in the mean time.

The PPC are complaining that they won't get in. There are 2 out of 3 criteria needed to be at the debates (and excusing the 3rd is obviously to allow the BQ to participate). From the current polls, it looks like the PPC won't get ANY of the current criteria. (Well maybe candidates in 90% of the ridings). 4% of the polling looks to be a stretch when they're hovering around 2-3%.

TVA is also looking to run a second French debate. CPC and BQ have said they'll pay to participate. No word from the Liberals or NDP.

Personally, I hope Carney just shuts them out. The "hit" from not rising to their bait seems to be less harmful than the possible hit from a second French debate. Especially with how short the campaign is
     
     
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Seriously?

did you hear about these 70 Christian’s rounded up by islamists and burned to death in the Congo https://www.opendoorsus.org/en-US/stories/70-christians-murdered-in-drc/

Or the 70,000 killed in Nigeria since 2000.

When was the last time 30 mosques were burned in Canada?
This is completely inapplicable to the discussion. Anyone can find examples of internecine strife around the world, whether it be against Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and any other group.

We are talking about Canada, and you made a disingenuous remark.
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Debates April 17 (French) and 18 (English).



So the English debate is after the French one. That should work well for Carney; any hits he takes for mangling la Belle Langue, should be covered from a better performance the next night. I hope he's doing a lot of practice in the mean time.

The PPC are complaining that they won't get in. There are 2 out of 3 criteria needed to be at the debates (and excusing the 3rd is obviously to allow the BQ to participate). From the current polls, it looks like the PPC won't get ANY of the current criteria. (Well maybe candidates in 90% of the ridings). 4% of the polling looks to be a stretch when they're hovering around 2-3%.

TVA is also looking to run a second French debate. CPC and BQ have said they'll pay to participate. No word from the Liberals or NDP.

Personally, I hope Carney just shuts them out. The "hit" from not rising to their bait seems to be less harmful than the possible hit from a second French debate. Especially with how short the campaign is
The "other" French debate, by TVA, typically outdraws the official French consortium debate (led by Radio-Canada).

In 2021, about 2.5 million people watched the single English debate.

About 575,000 people watched the French consortium debate, and just under 700,000 watched the TVA debate in French.
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1. That is called "arson," not persecution.

2. People say Merry Christmas to each other all the time. I've done it at work, and never had any issues. Maybe it's time to get off the internet, where right-wing lunatics spread this type of false narrative.
Indeed. I say "Merry Christmas" all the time, at work and elsewhere (and I work at a University, which some here think is completely overrun with wokeists). There are plenty of colleagues of mine that openly practice and express their Christian religion.

Here on SSP, if people want to spread a false narrative, they will be suspended and banned.
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The only religiously-motivated murder I am aware of in Canada in recent memory is when the Afzaal family in London was run over by a white nationalist.
Yes, this happened on the street that I live on. I could see the aftermath from my son's bedroom window.
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Indeed. I say "Merry Christmas" all the time, at work and elsewhere (and I work at a University, which some here think is completely overrun with wokeists). There are plenty of colleagues of mine that openly practice and express their Christian religion.

Here on SSP, if people want to spread a false narrative, they will be suspended and banned.
Saying people have an issue with Merry Christmas is fake news? That's total nonsense. There obviously isn't a ban but have not heard a government leader say it in years and if you say it to the wrong person you will absolutely get (mild) pushback.

Government offices have asked people to not eat at there desks during Ramadan.
     
     
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