Canadian Federal Election

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

The Polls are showing a clear Carney bump, which he'd be wise to ride into an election Campaign, probably called this week. Even if PP can't pivot, I expect the polls to drop for the LPC a little.

So while they're skirting with a majority at the moment, I think we're firmly in LPC Minority territory now.

My feel at the moment is that the country in general is looking for calm, consistent, unifying non-crazy leadership, especially compared to what we're seeing down south. Carney is very clearly giving off those vibes, while PP... is not. Carney is basically riding a similar path to what Biden rode in the States in 2020; being the safe choice presented to people. People are looking for a steady hand on the rudder to guide us through the economic storm coming up from the South. And Carney presents himself as just that sort of leader, while PP does not feel strong enough in that respect.

With those Liberal #s and the NDP collapse - that is Liberal majority territory - the CPC support is too concentrated...

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

With those Liberal #s and the NDP collapse - that is Liberal majority territory - the CPC support is too concentrated...

Concentrated but also spread out. In a lot of areas they used to be in the teens they now have low 20s but that adds no seats.

Projections are far from scientific but with the NDP so low a lot of models show a Liberal majority even losing the popular vote by 2-3 points (the 38-36-10 with Libs ahead in Quebec by 10 points over Bloc). Imagine how up in arms the right will be if that happens.

[Marshsparrow]

The right should have picked a likeable leader, not a race to the bottom slogan master.

[Nashe]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

The right should have picked a likeable leader, not a race to the bottom slogan master.

Anger is a very fickle mistress to entertain.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Nashe

Anger is a very fickle mistress to entertain.

The upcoming election will be waged against Herr Adolf Drumpf. Since Canadians cannot vote against Der Fuhrer directly, a proxy vote against his Canadian lieutenant (PP) will have to do.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The upcoming election will be waged against Herr Adolf Drumpf. Since Canadians cannot vote against Der Fuhrer directly, a proxy vote against his Canadian lieutenant (PP) will have to do.

This will be the Conservative argument trying to tie Carney to Trudeau.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

This will be the Conservative argument trying to tie Carney to Trudeau.

One hopes they have better tools in their kit - that one doesn't seem to be gaining traction outside of committed Conservative supporters.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

This will be the Conservative argument trying to tie Carney to Trudeau.

This will not work. PP has been trying this for over two weeks, while the Conservatives continue to fall in the polls. What many people have not realised is Trudeau's approval ratings may have doubled from January, where it was 22%. His approval ratings were at 34% towards the end of February, a 12 point gain.

Considering he left on a high note, I would not be surprised if his approval ratings ends up in the mid 40s or even above. Many Canadians have short memories when it comes to politics, and him standing up to Trump, and his obvious patriotism will make many forget about how unpopular he was for the past year.

[Hackslack]

If Carney states he will abolish Bill C-48 Oil Tanker Moratorium Act and Bill C-69 Impact Assessment Act, he’s got my vote 100%, as these are the two main issues that mitigate the full potential of Alberta and it’s impact to the prosperity to Canada.Those are the main contentious issues that affect Alberta.

Failure to do so ensures the continuation of green virtue signalling, which hinders the Canadian economy in the billions of dollars, regardless if he cancelled the carbon tax.

[Taeolas]

Didn't watch it, but Youtube was linking me to a PP Conference he was holding today. All I could see is that he is STILL clinging to "Axe the Tax" slogan (it was on his podium) even though the Tax has been Axed. Just makes him seem out touch IMO.

[samne]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

This will be the Conservative argument trying to tie Carney to Trudeau.

Tying Carney to Trudeau is very accurate as it’s the exact same Liberal government.

Connecting Pierre to Trump makes zero sense to any logical thinking other than they’re both not left leaning. Unfortunately many people don’t think logically.

[Airboy]

Talking with some friends over the weekend. The Shift away from the CPC could be attributed to the PCs of the party that did not find a home with the current Conservatives. PPs fall was quite fast. But the silence of the CPC MPs to Trumps 51 statements is quite telling as well.

With a fall that fast in the polls you usually have MPs make noise about confidence, but nothing.

I even look at my home province and the lack of Spine in the UCP caucus.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

If Carney states he will abolish Bill C-48 Oil Tanker Moratorium Act and Bill C-69 Impact Assessment Act, he’s got my vote 100%, as these are the two main issues that mitigate the full potential of Alberta and it’s impact to the prosperity to Canada.Those are the main contentious issues that affect Alberta.

Failure to do so ensures the continuation of green virtue signalling, which hinders the Canadian economy in the billions of dollars, regardless if he cancelled the carbon tax.

This will not make investing $ into pipelines any more attractive / lucrative...

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by samne

Connecting Pierre to Trump makes zero sense to any logical thinking other than they’re both not left leaning. Unfortunately many people don’t think logically.

Then PP will have to prove it.

His anti-Drumpf rhetoric will have to be blistering in it's intensity, and, he will quite literally have to wrap himself in the Canadian flag, screaming at the top of his lings that he is going to quadruple Canada's defence spending, and, export taxes to the US are to be the new normal.

Otherwise, people will not believe him.

His rhetoric has been, and still is decidedly Drumpfian.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Airboy

Talking with some friends over the weekend. The Shift away from the CPC could be attributed to the PCs of the party that did not find a home with the current Conservatives. PPs fall was quite fast. But the silence of the CPC MPs to Trumps 51 statements is quite telling as well

I have stated several times in the past that I am a natural Progressive Conservative. I have great difficulty with the reactionary right wing within the party, but, I am also greatly discomforted by the extreme social justice activism of the Liberal left.

If JT were still PM, and, if Adolf had not threatened the very existence of my country, I would be voting Conservative in this election.

Things however have changed drastically in the last six weeks. I am a patriotic Canadian. Unless PP can convince me that he is not a Drumpfian acolyte (and it is very difficult to prove that you are not something), then I will be voting for Mark Carney's Liberals.

[samne]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Then PP will have to prove it.

His anti-Drumpf rhetoric will have to be blistering in it's intensity, and, he will quite literally have to wrap himself in the Canadian flag, screaming at the top of his lings that he is going to quadruple Canada's defence spending, and, export taxes to the US are to be the new normal.

Otherwise, people will not believe him.

His rhetoric has been, and still is decidedly Drumpfian.

That’s plain ridiculous. No other global leader has done this. Fact remains the
US is our biggest customer and ally so Canada needs to be diplomatic not stupid.

[LuluBobo]

The US is no longer our ally.

It's a hard truth to swallow, but the relationship is over. It might recover in 25 years, but for the foreseeable future the US is the single greatest threat to Canada.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by samne

Canada needs to be diplomatic not stupid.

Agreed - but only once Adolf has stopped waxing on about the wonders of the "51st state."

Once upon a time, a national leader who threatened the legitimacy integrity and the sovereignty of a neighbouring country could be accused of committing an act of war.

Seems like Putin did this same thing regarding Ukraine for a couple of years before invading.

Putin has been giving Adolf pointers. Drumpf has learned well from his master. Until Drumpf stops this ridiculous rhetoric, then I see no point in being "diplomatic."

The ball is in Der Fuhrer's court...................

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

If Carney states he will abolish Bill C-48 Oil Tanker Moratorium Act and Bill C-69 Impact Assessment Act, he’s got my vote 100%, as these are the two main issues that mitigate the full potential of Alberta and it’s impact to the prosperity to Canada.Those are the main contentious issues that affect Alberta.

Failure to do so ensures the continuation of green virtue signalling, which hinders the Canadian economy in the billions of dollars, regardless if he cancelled the carbon tax.

Sure but I don't expect that to happen. There aren't a lot of votes there. Anyway who cares deeply about resource development is never voting Liberal and those of who only care because it pays the bills for the rest of us are a tiny minority. Meanwhile those on the left who will vote to block Poilievre who have climate justice as one of their top issues need to be thrown a bone.

Same story pretty much on DEI and woke. The small cohort who are anti-woke and anti-racist are overwhelmed by those that vote on it from the left who think it's just about giving everyone an opportunity.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I have stated several times in the past that I am a natural Progressive Conservative. I have great difficulty with the reactionary right wing within the party, but, I am also greatly discomforted by the extreme social justice activism of the Liberal left.

If JT were still PM, and, if Adolf had not threatened the very existence of my country, I would be voting Conservative in this election.

Things however have changed drastically in the last six weeks. I am a patriotic Canadian. Unless PP can convince me that he is not a Drumpfian acolyte (and it is very difficult to prove that you are not something), then I will be voting for Mark Carney's Liberals.

Someone put it to me like this. You have two candidates who show up for a job interview:
Candidate 1 has flipped burgers for the past 20 years with no accomplishments but blames everyone around them for their current stuck state.
Candidate 2 flipped burgers, managed the restaurant, now owns the restaurant and is looking at ways to expand and protect the restaurant.

Which candidate do you want overeeing your operations?

It's really a no-brainer. PP thinks Canadians are stupid. We aren't and we know which candidate is the right one for the time right now.