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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Yeah, I still think many Canadians see PP as, “the Trump of the North”, and assume PP is Trump’s clearcut preference for dealing with Canada for the next 4 years.
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He FINALLY put out a social media post... pretty pathetic. What is a "common sense Conservative"?
PP is trying to emulate Trump, and failing miserably at it.

It's just like "Carbon Tax Carney."
     
     
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He lies, he steals, he hangs out with terrible people.

I want better.


I feel the same way about Trump. Thankfully he is not running in this election.
     
     
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Yeah, I still think many Canadians see PP as, “the Trump of the North”, and assume PP is Trump’s clearcut preference for dealing with Canada for the next 4 years.
Yeah so ignore the facts in front of you, and ignore what Pierre said yesterday, because youve built a narrative you’re comfortable with.
     
     
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I feel the same way about Trump. Thankfully he is not running in this election.
Yes so why don’t you feel that way about mark carney?
     
     
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Yeah so ignore the facts in front of you, and ignore what Pierre said yesterday, because youve built a narrative you’re comfortable with.
Ignore your cherry picked selective outrage, you mean? Yeah… I’ll continue to do so.

PP is the candidate most like Trump in this election, whether you like to admit or not.
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Ignore your cherry picked selective outrage, you mean? Yeah… I’ll continue to do so.

PP is the candidate most like Trump in this election, whether you like to admit or not.
You are completely wrong. You’ve bought into a narrative that framed Pierre as a mini trump, meanwhile the sitting prime minister has more in common with trump. From his admiration for dictators, to the corruption, the nepotism, the history of racism and the entitlement. One just presents better in public.

Pierre is nothing like trump, Pierre has morals, unlike carney who steals from small businesses and hangs out with the spouse of a man convicted of child sexual abuse.
     
     
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Depends which side you are on
whatever side you are on, don't try to undermine the authority of the mods. There is a lot of discussion and monitoring that goes on behind the scenes, which you are not privy to. If it isn't too much to ask, try to have a modicum of respect.
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Yes so why don’t you feel that way about mark carney?
stop being ridiculous. otherwise, we are all waiting patiently for your evidence. Something that is more indicting than a photo from the cocktail circuit of circumstantial association. Do better.
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Clearly if Pierre is like Trump, then Trudeau is like Xi Jinping… Authoritarian. Unacceptable views not allowed.
     
     
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stop being ridiculous. otherwise, we are all waiting patiently for your evidence. Something that is more indicting than a photo from the cocktail circuit of circumstantial association. Do better.
There were multiple photos from the event. One with the carneys and Ghislaine laying on the grass at the party… they may not be besties, but they are clearly more than acquaintances.

All those people there, important powerful people, and mark and his wife are comfortably relaxing with a woman who’s husband went to jail a few years earlier for raping kids.

You don’t think mark never met and hung out with Epstein during his time at Goldman sachs?
     
     
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He’s probably hung out with trump too.

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Through a certain lens, this comment by Trump could be seen as an attempt by Adolph II to help PP out. This is the way many Canadians will view it.
Wow. These Liberal conspiracy’s are starting to teeter towards that of the far right.

Let’s focus on attempting to label PP as a MAGA, and completely ignore Carney’s blatant lie of not having been a key part of Brookfields decision re-locate head office to the USA… the argument of it not affecting Canada’s economy is BS. Would Carney now support every large corp in Canada to re-locate head offices to the USA to avoid tariffs? Typical Liberal leadership… “do as I say, not as I do”

Or what about Carney’s carbon tax on top of the tariffs on industry, to make things even more expense to produce products. Why would he make it even more expensive get things done. His actions have proven the tariffs are enough to re-locate corporations, why would he need to give even more incentive. Ridiculous
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There were multiple photos from the event. One with the carneys and Ghislaine laying on the grass at the party… they may not be besties, but they are clearly more than acquaintances.

All those people there, important powerful people, and mark and his wife are comfortably relaxing with a woman who’s husband went to jail a few years earlier for raping kids.

You don’t think mark never met and hung out with Epstein during his time at Goldman sachs?
and here we are, and still you are the only person that seems to care about this 3 degrees of separation.

You are peddling a conspiracy theory. I warned you. If you persist, expect to be suspended.
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As a victim of child sexual abuse yeah I care. SOOOOOOOORRRRRRRYYYYYYY
     
     
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See you in two weeks.

You are far from the first person to have faced sexual trauma. Save your accusations for those where there is probable evidence. There is none here.

But this is not why you are being suspended. It is because you refused, despite hints, verbal, and written warnings, to desist from engaging in conspiracy theories. You have contributed nothing of substance to the conversation other than falsehoods and vitriol, while seeking to undermine the authority of the mods.
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Carney’s actions of signing off on relocating Brookfield to the USA, essentially communicating to every other large corp in Canada they should too to avoid tariffs, and his Carbon tax on industry on top of the US tariffs, making it even more expensive to produce products, is, believe it or not, much more helpful to Trump to MAGA, than anything PP has ever done. If you call PP a Trump supporter, look at Carney, his actions only help the USA, and hurts Canada. Carney is MAGA more than anything PP has ever done.
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Then don't vote for Pierre then.
     
     
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Carney’s actions of signing off on relocating Brookfield to the USA, essentially communicating to every other large corp in Canada they should too to avoid tariffs, and his Carbon tax on industry on top of the US tariffs, making it even more expensive to produce products, is, believe it or not, much more helpful to Trump to MAGA, than anything PP has ever done. If you call PP a Trump supporter, look at Carney, his actions only help the USA, and hurts Canada. Carney is MAGA more than anything PP has ever done.
This is so laughable... CONS are going to have to get a new line cause it's not working... Canadians aren't as stupid as you make us out to be or the 20% of the fringe you've attracted to your party who are rabid Trump and 51st state supporters.

You made your bed of Trump, Musk, Peterson, Jones, etc. Now you get to lie in it and very glad it is so uncomfortable. Looks good on PP.
     
     
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Poillievre is not a mini-Trump clone. This is self evident.

He will have a great deal of difficulty in convincing the average Canadian voter of this however.

Canadians are angry. They are frightened, and, are newly patriotic. They want to show this patriotism in an affirmative manner. This newly found patriotism has been instilled by a common enemy - Donald Trump. Trump has galvanized Canadian patriotism in a manner similar to Adolph Hitler during WWII.

Yes, I have said it. Donald Trump is the new Adolph Hitler. Trump is absolutely toxic. Any form of association with this vile man wiil destroy political careers. Poillievre will have to completely disassociate himself from MAGA rhetoric and ideology. It may already be too late for this. PP's whole persona is ted up with MAGA-like sloganeering. There are tonnes of PP's three-word slogans out there that Liberal party can use against him in TV ads. I have already seen some of them on TV, They are lethal.

How does PP combat this Trump association? I argue he will have do go all nuclear on Trump and try to become Captain Canada. Does PP actually want to do this? There are elements of his base who would be furious.
Trump is absolutely a fascist and there was no better evidence than what happened yesterday in the Oval Office. Trump belittling and attempting to humiliate Zelenskyy will be seen as a huge turning point politically but also in the business world. I'm so happy that we don't have someone like PP as our PM as many European countries are looking to shift trade from the US to Canada as our leaders have been speaking out against the political insanity from Russia and the US.

PP is already regretting what he has said and how he has behaved because he used so many things from the Trump playbook. And supporting the "freedom" convoy is coming back to haunt him because it was basically a Maple MAGA rally.
     
     
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