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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
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If I was Pierre I’d sit back and wait until the liberals finally choose then full out go after them.

My first add would be that pic of trump and Ghislaine together then slowly fade to that picture of carney and Ghislaine at his sister in laws estate. With some kind of “you are the company you keep” kinda messaging. Would be very effective at killing some of that liberal lead.


As for where’s Pierre, Chances are Pierre had a press conference on Sunday, like he does almost every Sunday, any media cover it?

Anywho, carney was just caught lying about his role in moving his investment firm down to New York, trumps hometown. How’s that for standing up for Canadians!
No it won't. It is a character smear, with no foundation. It would blow up in PP's face.

The fact that you would even suggest this is concerning. The fact that you are obsessed with this 3rd degree of separation is even more concerning.

There are many other things, legitimate things, that you can come up with to raise doubts about Mark Carney. His wife's sister's cousin's best-friend's uncle's connection to Ghislaine Maxwell shouldn't be one of them.
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Based on the chart, the pre-COVID Liberals increased the debt in 2016, 2017 and 2018 but then decreased it in 2019 and 2020. Obviously, not back to where it was in 2015, but it wasn't going up "all the way to COVID".
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And was the signatory to the shareholder letter recommending the move of the head office from Toronto to New York.
Basically a message that all other corporations should relocate to the US to get better returns to look after their shareholders. What a phoney that guy is. True colours shine through
     
     
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Basically a message that all other corporations should relocate to the US to get better returns to look after their shareholders. What a phoney that guy is. True colours shine through
So now Carney would apply that logic to every Canadian company with shareholders.


Shareholder value first! Canadian jobs second...
     
     
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No it won't. It is a character smear, with no foundation. It would blow up in PP's face.

The fact that you would even suggest this is concerning. The fact that you are obsessed with this 3rd degree of separation is even more concerning.

There are many other things, legitimate things, that you can come up with to raise doubts about Mark Carney. His wife's sister's cousin's best-friend's uncle's connection to Ghislaine Maxwell shouldn't be one of them.
It is something like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqXhieWU3M
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Basically a message that all other corporations should relocate to the US to get better returns to look after their shareholders. What a phoney that guy is. True colours shine through
As a Board chair, Carney was doing as any other chair should do; maximize shareholder value. I have no issue with him doing this. The issue is now he is wrapping himself in the Canadian flag as the great defender of Canada. Hypocrisy at its finest. And why did he lie about it?

This theme seems to run with blue Liberals. We had Paul Martin attempting to portray himself as the great defender of Canada while at the same time foreign flagging (flag of convenience) all his CSL ships to avoid Canadian safety standards, labour laws and taxation.

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The 10 point NDP loss, and 5 point BQ loss is what makes up the Lib 15 point gain. Pretty much tells the story of not just the dislike of Trudeau, but the dislike of Singh… they are joining forces to defeat PP. Cons polling is still pretty remarkable as is
ISTM that means their dislike or distrust of PP trumps (pun intended) all other concerns.
     
     
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It’s Tania rotherwick, his wife’s sister, you know that festival they were photographed at! It was her husband lord rotherwick’s property.

You can read about marks fun times to be had, here. From this 2013 article celebrating his coming to “poshstock”

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/lon...-with-his-very-grand-inlaws-8753902.html
     
     
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Basically a message that all other corporations should relocate to the US to get better returns to look after their shareholders. What a phoney that guy is. True colours shine through
Not quite. More like a multi-national corporation with billions in assets has an army of lawyers and accountants in some backroom figuring out how to adjust the corporate structure to minimize global tax.

Honestly, the only thing is surprising, is the corporation does not have its HQ in the Cayman Islands or some other tax haven.
     
     
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Not quite. More like a multi-national corporation with billions in assets has an army of lawyers and accountants in some backroom figuring out how to adjust the corporate structure to minimize global tax.

Honestly, the only thing is surprising, is the corporation does not have its HQ in the Cayman Islands or some other tax haven.
It's an understandable move that we was likely obliged to make given his position (and seems to have more to do with getting exposure to large ETFs than tax reasons), but it's not a good look considering that we have some forumers here blowing a gasket over Canadians going to the states to visit their family.
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It’s Tania rotherwick, his wife’s sister, you know that festival they were photographed at! It was her husband lord rotherwick’s property.

You can read about marks fun times to be had, here. From this 2013 article celebrating his coming to “poshstock”

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/lon...-with-his-very-grand-inlaws-8753902.html
You're really concerned about this stuff nobody else cares about.

Really digging up old crap to get your boy PP in the big chair.
     
     
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Conservatives sure like to make a controversy over something they think will stick...

As a reminder, in the last 2-4 years, some of PP's greatest antics, this is not what I want in a Canadian PM.

PP brings timbits to group seeking to meet with GG and overthrow the government...
PP led a far right march through Ottawa...
PP does roadside stop with Diagolon... appears with F Trudeau flags, quoted “Everything [Prime Minister Justin Trudeau] said was bullshit.”
PP uses mysoginist labels in videos...
Actively courts and seeks favour with Alex Jones, Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, Donald Trump and others...
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Not quite. More like a multi-national corporation with billions in assets has an army of lawyers and accountants in some backroom figuring out how to adjust the corporate structure to minimize global tax.

Honestly, the only thing is surprising, is the corporation does not have its HQ in the Cayman Islands or some other tax haven.
I understand your points.

What I don’t understand is why Carney blatantly lied about his role in the relocation. Why do you think he lied? To fool Canadians?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 6:24 PM
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Conservatives sure like to make a controversy over something they think will stick...

As a reminder, in the last 2-4 years, some of PP's greatest antics, this is not what I want in a Canadian PM.

PP brings timbits to group seeking to meet with GG and overthrow the government...
PP led a far right march through Ottawa...
PP does roadside stop with Diagolon... appears with F Trudeau flags, quoted “Everything [Prime Minister Justin Trudeau] said was bullshit.”
PP uses mysoginist labels in videos...
Actively courts and seeks favour with Alex Jones, Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, Donald Trump and others...
Seems like you are trying to stir up some controversy that you think will stick as well.
     
     
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Are we aiming for the top 100 now?

There was a time not long ago when Canada was in the top 5 for most of these rankings.
That time is today...Canada ranks near the top of almost every metric.

1. Canada is the most educated country on earth. (US is 11th)
2. Canadians on average live 4 years longer than Americans.
3. Canada ranks as the 11th safest county on earth (Global Peace Index). US ranks 132nd.
4. Canada ranks 5th in the world for Quality of Life (US News). US ranks 22nd.
5. Canada ranks 9th in the world for income inequality. US ranks 32nd.
6. Canada has the wealthiest middle class in the world (median annual income). (Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report)
7. Canada consistently ranks at or near the top of the Reputation Institute’s annual Most Respected Country ranking.
8. US murder rates are three times higher than Canada’s.
9. US violent crime rates are three times higher than Canada’s.
10. US university tuition is more than two times higher on average than Canada’s.
11. Canadian students rank 9th in the world for harmonized test scores. US ranks 33rd.
12. Canada ranks above the US on the UN’s Human Development Index.
13. Canada ranks above the US on the global Human Freedom Index.
14. US poverty rates are almost twice as high as Canada’s.
15. Canada’s Maternity leave: 52 weeks (paid). US Maternity leave: 12 weeks (unpaid).
16. Canada’s average minimum wage is $17.30. US average minimum wage is $11.80.
17. Two-thirds of all bankruptcies in the US are due to an inability to pay medical bills. Canada has public healthcare.
18. Canadians have a better work-life balance (3% of Canadians work 50 hours per week. 10% of Americans do)
19. Canadians are guaranteed two-weeks paid vacation (3 after 5 years, 4 after 10). Americans have no guaranteed paid vacation.
20. Canadians take on average 7 more paid vacation days per year than Americans.
     
     
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You're really concerned about this stuff nobody else cares about.

Really digging up old crap to get your boy PP in the big chair.
its pretty funny...Hecate is really trying to convince people that he has a gotcha....last week he was posting fake photoshopped images...now he's trying to make connections to people nobody cares about.
     
     
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You're really concerned about this stuff nobody else cares about.

Really digging up old crap to get your boy PP in the big chair.
Coax me, cajole me.. when will you believe Warren??

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White House official threatens to redraw Canadian border

A top White House official has threatened to redraw the Canadian border amid Donald Trump’s ambition to turn the country in America’s “51st state”.

Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump’s closest advisers, is pushing US negotiators to discuss reworking the border with their Canadian counterparts, The Telegraph can reveal.
“Navarro recommended revising the Canada-US border, which is just crazy and dangerous,” a source close to negotiations told The Telegraph.

Canada has now instructed its delegates to withdraw from negotiations with the US until Jameson Greer and Howard Lutnick, two incoming members of Mr Trump’s cabinet, are confirmed by the senate. Mr Greer and Mr Lutnick are viewed by Ontario as being less extreme.

“The Canadians have told their people to hold off negotiating with the US Government until Jameson Greer and Howard Lutnick are confirmed by the Senate and in post,” the source said.


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https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-official-threatens-redraw-053000568.html


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Let's not kid ourselves. This election will be decided by the Trump issue, and who is best going to stand up to Trump, and defend Canadian sovereignty.
     
     
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It’s Tania rotherwick, his wife’s sister, you know that festival they were photographed at! It was her husband lord rotherwick’s property.

You can read about marks fun times to be had, here. From this 2013 article celebrating his coming to “poshstock”

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/lon...-with-his-very-grand-inlaws-8753902.html
No one believes that Carney is a pedophile or sex trafficker like Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't know why you keep bringing this up.
Your sister-in-law is married to a Baron. You're going to attend a posh party at least once.

To use a line from the movie Mean Girls, "stop trying to make fetch happen"

Lighting Guy/Build.It was your compatriot for lapping up this conspiratorial nonsense and he blew a gasket, left after posting a long bloviating diatribe and then came back to personally attack a bunch of forumers.

People seem to be losing their minds in the 2020s.
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No one believes that Carney is a pedophile or sex trafficker like Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't know why you keep bringing this up.
Your sister-in-law is married to a Baron. You're going to attend a posh party at least once.

To use a line from the movie Mean Girls, "stop trying to make fetch happen"

Lighting Guy/Build.It was your compatriot for lapping up this conspiratorial nonsense and he blew a gasket, left with a long bloviating diatribe and then came back to personally attack a bunch of forumers.

People seem to be losing their minds in the 2020s.
It's a nothing burger that desperate right wingers are clinging to, in hopes of changing the momentum of the election, It will likely backfire, since Canadians are facing our existential threat in 200 years. Just like the carbon tax, it willl not even register with the average Canadian voter.
     
     
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