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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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It appears Anita Anand may be rethinking her future in federal politics. I was kind of hoping she would take the helm of the OLP once Crombie crashes and burns, but this is excellent news if true.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2025, 11:30 PM
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I have never seen anything like this in my life. Insanity.
The Liberals are responding to public desires. People don't like JT. He is out.

Canadian are scared and not willing to experiment with an unproven team.

Agreed. I have never seen anything like it either.
     
     
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I have never seen anything like this in my life. Insanity.
The 10 point NDP loss, and 5 point BQ loss is what makes up the Lib 15 point gain. Pretty much tells the story of not just the dislike of Trudeau, but the dislike of Singh… they are joining forces to defeat PP. Cons polling is still pretty remarkable as is
     
     
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...the Libs from the get go significantly increased debt all the way to Covid...
Based on the chart, the pre-COVID Liberals increased the debt in 2016, 2017 and 2018 but then decreased it in 2019 and 2020. Obviously, not back to where it was in 2015, but it wasn't going up "all the way to COVID".
     
     
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Libs and Cons getting similar vote shares equals Liberal majority or minority based on how their share is spread across the country. The Con vote is so concentrated in certain areas that it doesn’t add up to more seats overall. If this holds, the Cons are cooked.
     
     
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Libs and Cons getting similar vote shares equals Liberal majority or minority based on how their share is spread across the country. The Con vote is so concentrated in certain areas that it doesn’t add up to more seats overall. If this holds, the Cons are cooked.
Good call. Alberta and Saskatchewan tend to vote Conservative in droves.
     
     
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Libs and Cons getting similar vote shares equals Liberal majority or minority based on how their share is spread across the country. The Con vote is so concentrated in certain areas that it doesn’t add up to more seats overall. If this holds, the Cons are cooked.
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Good call. Alberta and Saskatchewan tend to vote Conservative in droves.
Underperforming for the CPC in AB/SK is winning all but four or five seats in the two provinces. A "strong" result is everything but Edmonton-Strathcona.
     
     
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Underperforming for the CPC in AB/SK is winning all but four or five seats in the two provinces. A "strong" result is everything but Edmonton-Strathcona.
Im not sure that’s still the case. The changing demographics in Edmonton and Calgary coupled with the scandals Danielle Smith is going through right now could see maybe more than 4 seats in the Edmonton Calgary region swing Liberal or NDP. Even the Saskatchewan NDP proved that the cities are more willing to vote to the left than ever before.
     
     
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Is Canada perfect? Nope... but every year with consistency we are placed in the top ranked, top happiest, top safest, and on and on and on...

Concerned about your standard of living - spend a week in India. You'll be grateful.
Are we aiming for the top 100 now?

There was a time not long ago when Canada was in the top 5 for most of these rankings.
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Im not sure that’s still the case. The changing demographics in Edmonton and Calgary coupled with the scandals Danielle Smith is going through right now could see maybe more than 4 seats in the Edmonton Calgary region swing Liberal or NDP. Even the Saskatchewan NDP proved that the cities are more willing to vote to the left than ever before.
Agree that Alberta may be changing...if slowly.

In 2015, you had Rachel Notley win a stunning victory for the NDP. And the federal Liberals won some Calgary and Edmonton seats.

Then in 2019 the CPC did especially well in AB/SK under Scheer and you also had the defeat of the Notley government.

2021 saw the CPC vote drop 14 points in AB, the Liberals picking up one seat in Calgary and one in Edmonton and the NDP winning another Edmonton seat.

The last provincial election was close. Obviously there's lots of ANDP/CPC voters in Calgary and Edmonton. But will Danielle Smith and the Trump threat have a negative impact on the CPC vote?
     
     
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Indeed. Let's just look at the Conservative vote share and seat count in Alberta and Saskatchewan in the last three federal elections.

2015

AB 59.5% 29/34 seats
SK 48.5% 10/14 seats

2019

AB 69% 33/34 seats
SK 64% 14/14 seats

2021

AB 55.3% 30/34 seats
SK 59% 14/14 seats
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That's their problem, they willfully turned the conservative party into a regional party and ignored the interests of the rest of the country, so it's to be expected.
     
     
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Im not sure that’s still the case. The changing demographics in Edmonton and Calgary coupled with the scandals Danielle Smith is going through right now could see maybe more than 4 seats in the Edmonton Calgary region swing Liberal or NDP. Even the Saskatchewan NDP proved that the cities are more willing to vote to the left than ever before.
I'm betting that Carney will run in an Edmonton riding. I could see him doing it because he doesn't want it to be easy for himself and it could help Liberal support in other Edmonton ridings. Carney seems to be the right type of person who could appeal to Edmontonians as he grew up there and going by the last provincial election, there are many who aren't PP politician-type fans.
     
     
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The 10 point NDP loss, and 5 point BQ loss is what makes up the Lib 15 point gain. Pretty much tells the story of not just the dislike of Trudeau, but the dislike of Singh… they are joining forces to defeat PP. Cons polling is still pretty remarkable as is
Nice cliff the Conservatives seem to have driven off... so does Pierre go angrier or does he go happy? Has he been seen this week or gone into hiding until after the Ontario election and he figures out what his next slogan is?
     
     
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Nice cliff the Conservatives seem to have driven off... so does Pierre go angrier or does he go happy? Has he been seen this week or gone into hiding until after the Ontario election and he figures out what his next slogan is?
More like the Libs have driven up a mountain. Regarding your questions, I have no idea.
     
     
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Anyone else see the lie that Carney decided to deliver to Canadians. He had no pet of Brookfield Assets relocation to New York, according to him, but he was actually still the chair of the Company when the decision was made.
     
     
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Anyone else see the lie that Carney decided to deliver to Canadians. He had no pet of Brookfield Assets relocation to New York, according to him, but he was actually still the chair of the Company when the decision was made.
And was the signatory to the shareholder letter recommending the move of the head office from Toronto to New York.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 2:57 PM
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If I was Pierre I’d sit back and wait until the liberals finally choose then full out go after them.

My first add would be that pic of trump and Ghislaine together then slowly fade to that picture of carney and Ghislaine at his sister in laws estate. With some kind of “you are the company you keep” kinda messaging. Would be very effective at killing some of that liberal lead.


As for where’s Pierre, Chances are Pierre had a press conference on Sunday, like he does almost every Sunday, any media cover it?

Anywho, carney was just caught lying about his role in moving his investment firm down to New York, trumps hometown. How’s that for standing up for Canadians!
     
     
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And was the signatory to the shareholder letter recommending the move of the head office from Toronto to New York.
Yup, he’s a liar. Just like his friends.
     
     
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