Canadian Federal Election

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by samne

Of course, because the Liberals have done so well dealing with Trump up until now, might as well continue.

The CPC are pro-business, this would work better along with the same in the US as opposed to the socialist Carney-Trudeau Liberals at this point in time.

I know you mean this in sarcasm, but they actually have.....they masterfully dealt with him in his first term and have done well so far....probably why even trudeau is polling well.

Trump is not pro-business....if he was he wouldn't be imposing anti-business tarrifs.....Trump is pro Trump. That's it.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by missing_middle

I watched the debate and I wasn't overly impressed by Carney. He was surprisingly the least articulate/fluid in his responses out of the bunch imo. Not sure if that's due to bad debate strategy or he is just not that good at quickly articulating thoughts in an impromptu setting. Not sure that style of Carney would hold up well in a debate against Polievere.

I agree with this....he will likely get steamrolled by Pierre in a debate....we will see how much that matters.

I have always believed that Pierre isn't a likable person...he was popular because he wasn't Trudeau, but now that there is an option, he has to prove himself on his own merit....he wasted two years not building a relationship of trust with Canadians and now that's all that matters.

I still think it will be a very close election that the cons can win, but it will be nothing like the wiping of the liberals off the political map everyone was predicting two months ago....i'm hoping at least for a minority....so the cons can't do their bad things...it likely would be a short term.

[samne]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I know you mean this in sarcasm, but they actually have.....they masterfully dealt with him in his first term and have done well so far....probably why even trudeau is polling well.

Trump is not pro-business....if he was he wouldn't be imposing anti-business tarrifs.....Trump is pro Trump. That's it.

Trump hasn’t talked to Trudeau since last November. Masterful…

Look at how Macron dealt with Trump at the White House this week as how statesmanship is done.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by samne

Trump hasn’t talked to Trudeau since last November. Masterful…

Not true. They talked on the phone just before the tariff deadline was rescinded.

But, there is no question Trump has contempt for Trudeau. Trump is contemptuous of almost everyone. Typical narcissist.

Jesus - look at me. Trump has me defending Trudeau, and you all know how much I hate JT.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I disagree that the change is just a bounce from Trudeau stepping down. It’s way too big for just that. The failure of Poillievre is as much or even more important as a factor. He has spent two years being an attack dog and nothing else. He has used the Trump playbook with slogans on his clothing and rhyming insults to his opponents. He has not built a relationship or trust with Canadians. He just farmed their rage. Now that Canadians are looking for a solution to a specific issue, those things don’t matter and he has to start right from square one.

It’s not about saying he will tariff back. It’s about a feeling that he isn’t the right guy. He’s not the adult in the room. He has never tried to cultivate that image. He has banked on being the angry attack dog. But that’s not what this moment needs in people’s minds. They want a calm and steady hand on the wheel. Not the screaming angry guy. He objectively does not have the resume for the moment. He has to convince Canadians that it doesn’t matter. He needs to change how they feel about him which is a huge task at this point. He should have started that two years ago instead of just yelling at Trudeau constantly. He should probably start by not emulating the most hated person in the world.

I couldn't agree with you more. Very well put.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by samne

Trump hasn’t talked to Trudeau since last November.

This is just a lie

[samne]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

This is just a lie

My bad, meant to say up until this month.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Drybrain

No one is going to do well with Trump unless they're willing to prostrate themsleves before him. There is no negotiating; he is an egotist and bully who values only obeisance (to him) and power.

Also I'm sorry but the idea that Mark Carney is a "socalist" is proof that the word has lost all meaning in certain conservative circles.

hear! hear!

I have been saying that about Trump for years. The evidence is overwhelming.

And the notion that Mark Carney is a socialist makes me want to discount the validity of the opinions of anyone making such a ridiculous claim. Of course, I have been called a "marxist" on this very website, despite my occupation, voting history, and political leanings.

[Hecate]

Trudeau and trump probably talk more than we know and feed each other ideas. Why else was Justin so quick to fly down to Mar-a-largo to meet him after the election. It would also explain the carney connections. Two narcissists playing both sides.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Trudeau and trump probably talk more than we know and feed each other ideas. Why else was Justin so quick to fly down to Mar-a-largo to meet him after the election. It would also explain the carney connections. Two narcissists playing both sides.

Trump and Trudeau?
Trump and Carney?
Trudeau and Carney?

The "socialist"/"marxist" (labels be-lovingly used by some here to describe Trudeau/Carney) and Trump?

I can't keep up with the own goals, as the goalposts keep moving.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Trudeau and trump probably talk more than we know and feed each other ideas. Why else was Justin so quick to fly down to Mar-a-largo to meet him after the election. It would also explain the carney connections. Two narcissists playing both sides.

Does not match the timelines.

Trump started talking about Tariffs on Canada. Federal government switched into damage control mode that involved Trudeau trying to "educate" Trump on the negative impact of the tariffs.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Hilarious to see the Lib apologists claiming victory. Look up other leaders who took over after dumping an unpopular leader. Such as John Tuner after Trudeau Sr or Kim Campbell after Mulroney. Both got a bounce in the polls before voters bounced them from government.

Apologists? Claiming victory?

It's a dramatic shift in poll results. What are you looking at?

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by samne

Trump hasn’t talked to Trudeau since last November. Masterful…

Look at how Macron dealt with Trump at the White House this week as how statesmanship is done.

seriously? He has talked to him twice in the last three days....he talked to him last week....he talked to him three weeks ago when he negotiated the pause in the tariffs.

you like that Macron corrected him on television?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

For the most part, while I'm happy to see the LPC rebound and the CPC crashing; my main take away is that we're well within Minority government territory, (whether Liberal or Conservative remains to be seen) and I'm happy with that.

The last thing I wanted was a CPC Majority with all the power and lack of checks it comes with, especially with PP's style of conservatism in play.

If Carney can miraculously pull off a Liberal Minority government after all this, I'll admit I'll be ecstatic. If he can "only" hold PP to a minority, probably a weak minority, then I'll be satisfied that PP will have some checks in place to hold him back.

I'm ok with a minority either way.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Trudeau and trump probably talk more than we know and feed each other ideas. Why else was Justin so quick to fly down to Mar-a-largo to meet him after the election. It would also explain the carney connections. Two narcissists playing both sides.

i love conservative conspiracy theorists...did you get that one from Facebook?

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by trueviking

i love conservative conspiracy theorists...did you get that one from Facebook?

Surprisingly no. Just reading about carney and who he has been around.

Wouldn’t be surprised at all if carney gets a trump endorsement once he is crowned.

[MonctonRad]

Acajack will appreciate this:


de Adder in the Hill Times

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Surprisingly no. Just reading about carney and who he has been around.

Wouldn’t be surprised at all if carney gets a trump endorsement once he is crowned.

Trump likes socialists now? Please pick a lane!

The goal only has 2 posts and they need to be in some kind of straight line.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Surprisingly no. Just reading about carney and who he has been around.

Wouldn’t be surprised at all if carney gets a trump endorsement once he is crowned.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Acajack will appreciate this:


de Adder in the Hill Times

Now THAT is funny!