Canadian Federal Election - Page 80

BlackDog204 · #**1581** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

I mean, the fact that you can only describe the political landscape in this country by using the USA as a frame of reference tells me that you probably spend an inordinate amount of time obsessing over their politics.

Nobody can deny that Canada has always had somewhat of an inferiority complex when it comes to America, considering they often dominate our culture. We tend to compare ourselves to Americans. It would be foolish to ignore what is happening in America, just as it would be foolish for Austrians, Poles, French, and Czechs to ignore what what going down in Nazi Germany in the 1930s. In many ways, MAGA is the Nazi Germany of the 21st century. The Trump Administration is the biggest threat to Canadian sovereignty in over 100 years, and perhaps 200 years.

To deny this would be foolish. I can say with 100% certainty that another benefit of being Canadian, is our political system is far better than the American system. You can go on and on about how everyone in Canada is only interested in American politics, and ignores the issues in our back years, but you would be false.

Many Canadians do follow American politics, but they are also very aware of issues when it pertains to Provincial and Federal elections in our country.

theman23 · #**1582** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Many Canadians do follow American politics, but they are also very aware of issues when it pertains to Provincial and Federal elections in our country.

Seriously doubt this.

We'll see what the Ontario election turnout will be this week.

elly63 · #**1583** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

"I'm an outsider. Here's my best bud Justin to tell you all about it".

Everybody's an outsider.

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P'tit Renard · #**1584** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

Seriously doubt this.

We'll see what the Ontario election turnout will be this week.

Yep, the advance voting is abysmal, last election close to 10% came out to vote, now it has dropped to 6%. Clearly many Canadians are distracted and captivated by the drama down south, and has forgotten about this election at home.

Just 6% of eligible Ontario voters cast early ballot as election day nears

https://globalnews.ca/news/11032146/ontario-election-advance-voter-turnout/

theman23 · #**1585** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Yep, the advance voting is abysmal, last election close to 10% came out to vote, now it has dropped to 6%. Clearly many Canadians are distracted and captivated by the drama down south, and has forgotten about this election at home.

Just 6% of eligible Ontario voters cast early ballot as election day nears

https://globalnews.ca/news/11032146/ontario-election-advance-voter-turnout/

I was speaking to some friends and family from Ontario last week, and the most important issues for the upcoming election seemed to be Gaza and Trump. It took me a while to figure out that we were talking about different elections. Most didn't even know Ontario had an election coming up.

I expect the Federal election to be better, but again - only because it's basically our referendum on Trump. The Gaza obsession is a central Canada madness that I'm glad to have gotten away from.

All the Canadian issues - housing, productivity and our sputtering economy, the decline in public services have all been forgotten about. I guess everything is better now?

whatnext · #**1586** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Yep, the advance voting is abysmal, last election close to 10% came out to vote, now it has dropped to 6%. Clearly many Canadians are distracted and captivated by the drama down south, and has forgotten about this election at home.

Just 6% of eligible Ontario voters cast early ballot as election day nears

https://globalnews.ca/news/11032146/ontario-election-advance-voter-turnout/

Pathetic. For comparison Germany reached a turnout of almost 83% in their federal election this week.

Acajack · #**1587** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

I expect the Federal election to be better, but again - only because it's basically our referendum on Trump.

Excellent question raised here. How much interest would there be in the 2025 Canadian federal election from most Canadians if Trump hadn't zeroed in on Canada and at all, and was just doing crazy shit in the US and in other parts of the world?

Not sure if we would want to know the answer.

P'tit Renard · #**1588** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

All the Canadian issues - housing, productivity and our sputtering economy, the decline in public services have all been forgotten about. I guess everything is better now?

The TruAnon folks on here definitely want us to think that way. They want all Canadians to debase themselves and turn into mindless single issue voters.

That's why we have captain underpants here pretending he's "protecting" Ontario whatever that crap means.

Doug Ford has proven that he's more than willing to throw young Ontarians under the bus, and somehow younger Ontarians don't deserve his "protection". We still haven't gotten any accountability either for the excessive lockdowns imposed by his government that disproportionately impacted younger Ontarians.

Acajack · #**1589** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 8:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

It's called globalization baby

I know plenty of Europeans watching the shit show going on in the US with bated breath, and they're not even as culturally intertwined as we are

That doesn't explain everything. I watch Al-Jazeera, BBC News, France 24, Euronews, etc. and other newscasts from other countries. No one has wall-to-wall coverage of US politics like our networks do. It's totally next-level here.

Perhaps it's normal since we are the proverbial mouse sleeping next to an elephant.

But let's not pretend that everyone in the world is the same, just to make ourselves feel better.

They're not.

I know lots of Europeans too and of those who are into politics (some of them aren't), none are "All Washington/Trump All the Time" with little to no interest in their domestic affairs, like so many Canadians are now.

WarrenC12 · #**1590** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 9:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Again I disagree. You have the assumption that we are exactly like the Americans. Intentionally or not, PP is emulating Trump, going on about "Carbon Tax Carney," and "woke culture," "Canada is broken," "Canada First," etc. All these sound bites, from a person with the charisma of a piece of bread.

These were majority winning slogans in late 2024.

I'm sure the threat of a Trump win is what made PP push hard for an election call before the US election, and especially before Trump took office.

WarrenC12 · #**1591** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 9:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Yep, the advance voting is abysmal, last election close to 10% came out to vote, now it has dropped to 6%. Clearly many Canadians are distracted and captivated by the drama down south, and has forgotten about this election at home.

Just 6% of eligible Ontario voters cast early ballot as election day nears

https://globalnews.ca/news/11032146/ontario-election-advance-voter-turnout/

The election is nowhere near close though, correct? Those usually lead to lower turnouts.

The opposition parties in Ontario appear pathetic.

BlackDog204 · #**1592** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by elly63

Everybody's an outsider.

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Why clutter the forum, with an interview with a narcissistic sociopath, and fringe candidate?

BlackDog204 · #**1593** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

These were majority winning slogans in late 2024.

The War on terrorism was not a major political issue on September 10. 2001 either.

PP and the Conservatives are tone deaf, and not focusing on the biggest political issue in recent Canadian history. It's going to cost them the election.

Hackslack · #**1594** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

The War on terrorism was not a major political issue on September 10. 2001 either.

PP and the Conservatives are tone deaf, and not focusing on the biggest political issue in recent Canadian history. It's going to cost them the election.

How are the Liberals different in focusing on the biggest political issue in recent Canadian history? What are they saying that the conservatives aren’t?

theman23 · #**1595** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hackslack

How are the Liberals different in focusing on the biggest political issue in recent Canadian history? What are they saying that the conservatives aren’t?

They aren't. Fear and uncertainty lend appeal to familiarity, and the Liberals are enjoying that advantage right now. Even Trudeau would have a shot in this environment. It will be a rehash of the 2021 election - the fear will dissipate, and will turn to anger again in a year or two when people get over the shock of the Trump tariffs and come to realize that part of the reason we've been left so exposed is due to a decade plus of mismanagement by the incumbents.

Hackslack · #**1596** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 10:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by theman23

They aren't. Fear and uncertainty lend appeal to familiarity, and the Liberals are enjoying that advantage right now. Even Trudeau would have a shot in this environment. It will be a rehash of the 2021 election - the fear will dissipate, and will turn to anger again in a year or two when people get over the shock of the Trump tariffs and come to realize that part of the reason we've been left so exposed is due to a decade plus of mismanagement by the incumbents.

Part of Carney’s plan is to implement the carbon tax in addition to the tarrifs on products affected by the tariffs, such as steel. That can’t be comforting for industry who will be fighting for their lives with the tariffs alone. Not to mention, despite what Carney says, the consumer will ultimately pay the price for the carbon tax.

It sure how the Liberals can say they are doing all they can to fight the tariffs when they continue to artificially inflate the price. The tariff alone is more than enough to reduce carbon emissions, to the point businesses will close up and Canada’s emissions will go down. Mission accomplished.

Hackslack · #**1597** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 10:15 PM**

Deleted - damn pop up ads on this forum screwed me up.

missing_middle · #**1598** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 10:35 PM**

There's a lot of confusing who's better at "The Resistance:Canadian Performative Edition" with who would actually be better economically.

If you actually question this on here the retort is: "Yes we technically control prices on carbon but haven't you seen Pierre's personality?"

Ok so it isn't really about the economic matters then.

WarrenC12 · #**1599** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by missing_middle

There's a lot of confusing who's better at "The Resistance:Canadian Performative Edition" with who would actually be better economically.

If you actually question this on here the retort is: "Yes we technically control prices on carbon but haven't you seen Pierre's personality?"

Ok so it isn't really about the economic matters then.

What?

Do you think PP is more qualified to handle the economy than Carney? That's a simple question.

trueviking · #**1600** Posted **Feb 25, 2025, 11:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hackslack

How are the Liberals different in focusing on the biggest political issue in recent Canadian history? What are they saying that the conservatives aren’t?

they are saying, we have a candidate for Prime Minister who has managed the economies of two G7 countries through their central bank.....the conservatives are saying we have a candidate with no experience in literally anything except being an angry politician.