Canadian Federal Election

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by elly63

That's a really good take but for me the jury is still out if he is the "safe" option. If he was I might be all in but I fear he would be more of the same leftist and far leftist policies. Now if he were a real Liberal, that would be a different story.

I think the issue is the political operatives he's surrounded by. It's not a good sign if he chooses to co-opt the whole TruAnon team into his fold, and let Gerald Butts and Katie Telford run the show. We can expect the same old if he doesn't dump Butts and Telford from his team after coronation.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

"Do you have a favourable or unfavourable opinion of Pierre Poilievre?"

37% Favourable
56% Unfavourable

source: https://www.338canada.ca/p/poilievres-numbers-hold-among-conservatives

[MolsonExport]

Just got another one: "Carbon Tax Carney. He's just like Justin."

Worthless ad.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Just got another one: "Carbon Tax Carney. He's just like Justin."

Worthless ad.

Shades of the ineffective "He's just not ready" ads when Trudeau first ran

[Taeolas]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Just got another one: "Carbon Tax Carney. He's just like Justin."

Worthless ad.

Yeah over the past week or so those ones have been airing a lot on Bounce radio (and I assume the rest of the Bell Media radio stations). Just makes me roll my eyes when I hear it. Feels like tired, out of date messaging.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Funny that young people's legitimate grievances are just written off as noise by Liberal strategists, and they're tarred and feathered as youngins susceptible to misinformation of social media if they're not voting for the natural governing party of Canada.

Research Finds Gen Z, Millennials More Vulnerable to Fake News

https://news.virginia.edu/content/research-finds-gen-z-millennials-more-vulnerable-fake-news

[Werthers]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

I think Carney is making effective arguments in favour of smart government spending… whereas PP is is likely to double down on cuts and tax breaks, instead of committing to investing in Canada’s future.

That's one of the things I like about PP-he wants Canadians to keep more of their money through lower taxes and smaller government since government hasn't exactly been shrewd with the public purse that seems like the way forward

Originally Posted by Wigs

Shades of the ineffective "He's just not ready" ads when Trudeau first ran

The worst thing is, he's proven he's still not ready which is why Canadian voters just baffle me

[WarrenC12]

Is it normal for an opposition party to run ads against somebody who is only a candidate for leader? Sure Carney is the front-runner, but the CPC seems super worried about him.

[theman23]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

I mean his announcement yesterday of cutting back social spending and focusing on capital should satisfy you on this front, I would hope.

Trudeau's problem is that he has run up the debt on massive social spending - Carney is indicating that era is over.

Yeah, that was one of the reasons that I voted for JT in 2015.

Justin Trudeau says a Liberal government won't balance the books for three straight years but will double spending on infrastructure to jump-start economic growth.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-liberals-infrastructure-deficits-1.3205535

Maybe Carney can promise electoral reform too.

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Is it normal for an opposition party to run ads against somebody who is only a candidate for leader? Sure Carney is the front-runner, but the CPC seems super worried about him.

Have you seen the polls recently?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by theman23

Have you seen the polls recently?

Plenty of time to run those in a theoretical election campaign. It just reeks of desperation that's all.

[theman23]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Plenty of time to run those in a theoretical election campaign. It just reeks of desperation that's all.

Well if the political commenters on CBC and CTV have any insight, they ascribed part of PP's rise in polling numbers to the LPCs inability or unwillingness to define him early on. I believe Ignatieff had a similar campaign against him, and we are much closer to an election now.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Is it normal for an opposition party to run ads against somebody who is only a candidate for leader? Sure Carney is the front-runner, but the CPC seems super worried about him.

So they shouldn't be concerned about who they are going to have to run against? Should they be going after Freeland? I'm missing the logic here.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Plenty of time to run those in a theoretical election campaign. It just reeks of desperation that's all.

To leftists it does

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by elly63

To leftists it does

What is a "leftist"? Please define this in your own words.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Research Finds Gen Z, Millennials More Vulnerable to Fake News

https://news.virginia.edu/content/research-finds-gen-z-millennials-more-vulnerable-fake-news

So you think it's primarily the threat of fake news that makes younger Canadians not vote Liberal? Then I have a bridge to sell you..

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by theman23

Well if the political commenters on CBC and CTV have any insight, they ascribed part of PP's rise in polling numbers to the LPCs inability or unwillingness to define him early on. I believe Ignatieff had a similar campaign against him, and we are much closer to an election now.

That's fair. I don't recall the LPC or NDP running anything on any of Scheer, O'Toole, or PP when they were running for leader. Of course they weren't becoming PM either.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Shades of the ineffective "He's just not ready" ads when Trudeau first ran

In retrospect we should had listened to the ads.. they were prescient to say the least, especially for younger Canadians.

[samne]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Is it normal for an opposition party to run ads against somebody who is only a candidate for leader? Sure Carney is the front-runner, but the CPC seems super worried about him.

Conservatives are not naive about this really is Carney being anointed as PM by the Liberals. The rest is theatre.

Cons are framing the narrative early as they should. Libs could call a snap election within weeks.

I’d love to hear Carney say on record that he’d stay on as Liberal leader if PP wins. He’ll bolt rather than sit in opposition.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by theman23

Carney is using the same "running a modest deficit so we can invest in Canadians" line that Trudeau used in 2015. Hard to credibly distance yourself from your predecessor when you use the same campaign slogans that he did.

i'm going to guess that one in a thousand people remember that was a campaign promise ten years ago....i'm a big political guy and I didn't.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by ToxiK

At least he got his pension...

tell me you get your opinions from social media without telling me you get your opinions from social media.