Canadian Federal Election

[BlackDog204]

"In new polling we find that 14% of voters say they would be more likely to vote for the CPC given election of Donald Trump. 73% of voters say they are now more likely to vote LPC because of Donald Trump"

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This could be the worst collapse of any political party, in Canadian history.


Pierre Poilievre, go fuck yourself.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I’ll bite. How were young people fucked over for the last ten years? Specific policy that didn’t exist previously.

JT’s pet Scheme of Great Landed Gentry Enrichment. Made rents and property prices skyrocket while depressing wages by flooding the labor market with desperate warm bodies.

Was that a serious question?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

"In new polling we find that 14% of voters say they would be more likely to vote for the CPC given election of Donald Trump. 73% of voters say they are now more likely to vote LPC because of Donald Trump"

This could be the worst collapse of any political party, in Canadian history.

Pierre Poilievre, go fuck yourself.

Trump is the worst friend PP has ever had.

PP’s whole shtick was that he wasn’t JT and was going to “axe the tax.” Those reasons don’t exist anymore.

This election will be against Donald Trump.

We’re waiting Pierre, what is your response???

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

"In new polling we find that 14% of voters say they would be more likely to vote for the CPC given election of Donald Trump. 73% of voters say they are now more likely to vote LPC because of Donald Trump"

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This could be the worst collapse of any political party, in Canadian history.


Pierre Poilievre, go fuck yourself.

Yet 338 has the Tories winning 205 seats and the Liberals 84. Sort of like the Eagles collapse last night.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

The part where you don't travel until you're 30 and eat out twice a year. But you had rich parents. Mine didn't get a career till they were 35 as there weren't any.

A friends younger brother is a teacher friend and bought a central attached Toronto house on one income in 2017. Dude still has a Flipphone. Rented a room for $500 and paid off student loans in 18 months and saved $25k a year for 6 years after that to buy a house at 30ish (I think he had some big stock wins too but still)

If you think getting rid of the gatekeepers is going to help I'm glad you are supporting the Cons so us rich folks can save on our capital gains. (Though I am kind of pissed I triggered some before last June's deadline for nothing)

I mean we need a Conservative government and it's clear now Carney is going to be only a minor course correction so insufficient But I just find the generational arguments ridiculous.

I don't think your friend's brother's 2017 scheme would still work, but even if it did, telling young voters they are expected to live miserable austere lives so the boomers can have theirs is not a great electoral strategy.

I am doubtful PP can get rid of the gatekeeprs, but certainly if he found a way to do that there would be a significant amount of housing available pretty quickly (Canada is one of the few places in the world where large cities are mostly single family homes).

[Dengler Avenue]

Meanwhile, this is a friendly reminder that HST holiday ends this week.
If anyone plans to go on a date on Valentine’s Day, don’t get sticker-shocked.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnist...as-hate-for-donald-trump-rises-in-canada
Meanwhile, even Toronto Sun is noting the liberal surge.

[Taeolas]

The Youtube Algorithm has suddenly thrown out an old Rick Mercer Report about PP.

It does make any comments about holding the government for the pensions seem hypocritical:

• Video Link

Mainly just mudslinging nowadays, but it's probably one of the few 'splashes' PP made in any form before he took over the CPC leadership.

[Acajack]

Mark Carney was at the Carnaval de Québec, and he did a... oh shit...:-(

https://x.com/Denfer76/status/1888779663645741248/photo/1

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by acottawa

I don't think your friend's brother's 2017 scheme would still work, but even if it did, telling young voters they are expected to live miserable austere lives so the boomers can have theirs is not a great electoral strategy.

I am doubtful PP can get rid of the gatekeepers, but certainly if he found a way to do that there would be a significant amount of housing available pretty quickly (Canada is one of the few places in the world where large cities are mostly single family homes).

The thing is the SFH is what everyone wants. Most of the 2017 20 year old contemporaries thought I will enjoy life as SFHs are too expensive anyway.

I absolutely agree that the anger at losing the white picket fence is real. Immigration is a big reason but most of the others are provincial/municipal. Not building highway infrastructure, development fees, and as you say blocking development. But also record low interest rates gave people more buying power. In 2021 lots of those 2017 on the sideline folks got into the market. It can seem hopeless how if you are 25 but prices and interest rates are coming down naturally. Voting for someone that will blow everything up isn't necessarily going to make things better it might make them worse.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Mark Carney was at the Carnaval de Québec, and he did a... oh shit...:-(

https://x.com/Denfer76/status/1888779663645741248/photo/1

As long as Carney didn't fall over doing his can-can kick, I don't see the problem.

Do you see this as being similar to Robert Stanfield and his banana/fumbled football catch, or Gilles Duceppe and his fishnet hat?

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by acottawa

Yet 338 has the Tories winning 205 seats and the Liberals 84. Sort of like the Eagles collapse last night.

338's polls are an average of mostly polls taken in a different universe. Apparently Ekos stated Now that Trudeau has resigned who will you vote for which is why they got different results than those just saying which party. As a new leader becomes known Trudeau won't be a factor (Unless Freeland wins in which case the airwaves will be filled with video of them together) Actually the Cons need to tie Carney to Trudeau and it won't be that hard. A ton of ads that the Liberal team is still intact, drove us into the ditch as Obama said and now wants the keys back. I think framed correctly that can work. But if we are in 25% tariffs and 600k layoffs a week people will straight up look at who is a better economic manager.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

As long as Carney didn't fall over doing his can-can kick, I don't see the problem.

Do you see this as being similar to Robert Stanfield and his banana/fumbled football catch, or Gilles Duceppe and his fishnet hat?

It was more the postage-stamp moustache that I had in mind...

But no, I don't think this will hurt his electoral fortunes.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It was more the postage-stamp moustache that I had in mind...

But no, I don't think this will hurt his electoral fortunes.

I know you are joking but pretending these are the same as Elon actually touching his heart and then extending the arm in a full on Heil are totally disingenuous. I guess he's using it to troll and the words racist and fascist are so over-used we don't even see it when it's right in our face.

I hope we aren't going to see Polievre called a homophobe etc. It will backfire.

[MonctonRad]

Nazi symbolism didn't even cross my mind. It was the can-can I was focussed on.

As for PP and homophobia/anti-abortionism etc, you just know the Liberal fear mongers are going to trot these accusations out as a matter of course. It is expected, unnecessary and disingenuous. They don't need to do this. All they have to do is effectively characterize PP as a Trumpian stooge and apologist. This by itself would be enough to steal the election.

Just ask the question - Is PP Canada's Quisling????

[Taeolas]

Considering the Puppet Felon has pulled out the tariff card again (but this time 'focused' so he isn't breaking his word technically), and has also reiterated that 51st state crap. PP and the CPC need to be doing a hell of a lot more than they are to distance themselves from him.

They may be hoping that by staying quiet and making ambiguous mouth noises about the events they can buy time and votes until election time. I doubt it is as effective as they might like it to be.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Trump is the worst friend PP has ever had.

PP’s whole shtick was that he wasn’t JT and was going to “axe the tax.” Those reasons don’t exist anymore.

This election will be against Donald Trump.

We’re waiting Pierre, what is your response???

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Mark Carney was at the Carnaval de Québec, and he did a... oh shit...:-(

https://x.com/Denfer76/status/1888779663645741248/photo/1

You still trying to excuse away Elongated Arm Extension Muskrat's "Roman Salute"?

If the salute fits, Elon should wear it.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Trump is the worst friend PP has ever had.

PP’s whole shtick was that he wasn’t JT and was going to “axe the tax.” Those reasons don’t exist anymore.

This election will be against Donald Trump.

We’re waiting Pierre, what is your response???

I agree that “axe the tax” won’t work if Carney also promises to axe it, but PP’s main quality, “not being JT”, can easily be switched to “not being the party that, over the last decade, drove us to where we are now”. You can bet the CPC will be pushing to link Carney to the JT-era LPC as much as possible.

Even with JT gone, the basic PP argument, “if you want more of the past few years, reelect the Libs, if you didn’t like the last few years, elect us to change course” is still somewhat sound.

[MolsonExport]

Trudeau Derangement Syndrome.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Trump is the worst friend PP has ever had.

PP’s whole shtick was that he wasn’t JT and was going to “axe the tax.” Those reasons don’t exist anymore.

This election will be against Donald Trump.

We’re waiting Pierre, what is your response???