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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Yes, like every election it will be determined by likelier voters who are older. The TikTok crowd may or may not come out to vote for their favoured meme-lords.
The other factor that may be at play. The older generation know who Mark Carney is. He is a name from the past.

For the "TikTok crowd" Carney is more an unknown. Once they get to know him, who knows they may end up switching as well.
     
     
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I’m sure those pictures of mark carney partying with Ghislaine Maxwell are making their rounds on tik tok
     
     
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The other factor that may be at play. The older generation know who Mark Carney is. He is a name from the past.

For the "TikTok crowd" Carney is more an unknown. Once they get to know him, who knows they may end up switching as well.
I'd be surprised if many swing voters remember who the Bank of Canada governor was 15 years ago.

I think it's more about Gen Z thinking expensive eggs and not being able to afford a house at 29 is as bad as it can get. The older generation knows how bad things could get like we haven't seen in decades. A steady hand is what they are voting for.
     
     
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I'd be surprised if many swing voters remember who the Bank of Canada governor was 15 years ago.

I think it's more about Gen Z thinking expensive eggs and not being able to afford a house at 29 is as bad as it can get. The older generation knows how bad things could get like we haven't seen in decades. A steady hand is what they are voting for.
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I'd be surprised if many swing voters remember who the Bank of Canada governor was 15 years ago.

I think it's more about Gen Z thinking expensive eggs and not being able to afford a house at 29 is as bad as it can get. The older generation knows how bad things could get like we haven't seen in decades. A steady hand is what they are voting for.
I'm not sure you know what a Zoomer is. Their birth years are 1997 to 2012. Only half that cohort will even be eligible to vote this year. The youngest of them are finishing elementary or middle school this year. So no, they aren't a large chunk of the electorate in 2025.
     
     
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I'm not sure you know what a Zoomer is. Their birth years are 1997 to 2012. Only half that cohort will even be eligible to vote this year. The youngest of them are finishing elementary or middle school this year. So no, they aren't a large chunk of the electorate in 2025.
These things are fluid. 1995 was previous definition. Either way 18-34 is mostly Gen Z. But agreed they won't be a big factor. This will perhaps be the first millennial election if they move decisively enough.

Eggs is a inflation meme. More US than Canada. The point is claims this is the worst economy in generations is ridiculous.
     
     
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These things are fluid. 1995 was previous definition. Either way 18-34 is mostly Gen Z. But agreed they won't be a big factor. This will perhaps be the first millennial election if they move decisively enough.

Eggs is a inflation meme. More US than Canada. The point is claims this is the worst economy in generations is ridiculous.
It isn't all about the economy being the worst, and it isn't all about eggs, it's more about the cost of housing and not being able to afford a home for a generation wanting to start a family and have a home to do it in.
     
     
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It's too bad she's not re-offering in the upcoming election. She makes a highly competent cabinet minister, and with so many other people jumping ship, her star would surely rise in any Carney cabinet. The new calculus suggests a much more competitive campaign now than even a month ago. I wonder if she would reconsider?
Well if things go poorly for Ontario Liberal Party leader Bonnie Crombie on February 27th then Anand could go for the leadership of the party in 2-3 years.
     
     
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Interesting take from the Pallas Poll is that Carney's surge in support is really just the OK boomers rallying behind him. There's now a dichotomy where the Canadian youth are not buying Katie Telford's koolaid, and are still sticking with the Conservatives en mass. So now we have the gerontocracy flexing its electoral muscle:





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Interesting take from the Pallas Poll is that Carney's surge in support is really just the OK boomers rallying behind him. There's now a dichotomy where the Canadian youth are not buying Katie Telford's koolaid, and are still sticking with the Conservatives en mass. So now we have the gerontocracy flexing its electoral muscle:



https://x.com/RealAlbanianPat/status/1887952408187138187
So much for young people caring about the environment, choosing Mad Max and the Poopers Party of Canada 6 to 1 over the Greens!?
     
     
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It’s called resentment… that’s usually what happens when you fuck someone over… and the young people are full of it. Amazing how educated people can’t grasp that simple concept.
     
     
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It’s called resentment… that’s usually what happens when you fuck someone over… and the young people are full of it. Amazing how educated people can’t grasp that simple concept.
That generation is set to receive the largest transfer of wealth ever - they should just be patient.
     
     
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I’m sure those pictures of mark carney partying with Ghislaine Maxwell are making their rounds on tik tok
Could we get some PP pics of him partying it up at WEF events? Or a list of his accomplishments in 20 years? That may help us feel more confident in his ability to lead.
     
     
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That generation is set to receive the largest transfer of wealth ever - they should just be patient.
And their parents are living longer and longer all the time (thanks modern medicine). They may come into their inheritance just as they retire.
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That generation is set to receive the largest transfer of wealth ever - they should just be patient.
So they have to wait until their sixties and their parents die to have a three bedroom home for their kids… FFS

     
     
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Could we get some PP pics of him partying it up at WEF events? Or a list of his accomplishments in 20 years? That may help us feel more confident in his ability to lead.
I'm pretty sure PP is a prude. No all night partying for him!

His lack of accomplishment in his parliamentary career is born from the fact he has spent most of it in opposition. And, when the Conservatives were in power, he was a cabinet minister for only a portion of the time, and had a minor portfolio. He had little opportunity to institute any earth shattering change.

Do not misconstrue these comments as an endorsement of PP BTW.
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I'm pretty sure PP is a prude. No all night partying for him!

His lack of accomplishment in his parliamentary career is born from the fact he has spent most of it in opposition. And, when the Conservatives were in power, he was a cabinet minister for only a portion of the time, and had a minor portfolio. He had little opportunity to institute any earth shattering change.

Do not misconstrue these comments as an endorsement of PP BTW.
More like damning with faint praise.
     
     
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Could we get some PP pics of him partying it up at WEF events? Or a list of his accomplishments in 20 years? That may help us feel more confident in his ability to lead.
Wonk wonk wonk, you’ve been spewing the same liberal talking points for the past five years..

If those were pictures of Pierre chillin’ with Ghislaine you’d be losing your shit.

Admit it. Can you?
     
     
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Who cares? When you walk in upper class circles, as all politicians and senior officials do, you are going to encounter some unpleasant people on the cocktail circuit. Did he visit Epstein's island? Are you trying to insinuate that Carney engaged in some inappropriate behavior?

If not, what the heck are you going on about?
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I'd be surprised if many swing voters remember who the Bank of Canada governor was 15 years ago.

I think it's more about Gen Z thinking expensive eggs and not being able to afford a house at 29 is as bad as it can get. The older generation knows how bad things could get like we haven't seen in decades. A steady hand is what they are voting for.
The older generation are the ones who have benefited from Trudeau’s gerontocracy, they are voting their interests.
     
     
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