Downtown Vancouver Updates II

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I wonder if they could do a building that slots right up again the Burrard Street side of the lot but taller..

I seem to recall the view of the Hotel Vancouver roof from Burrard being the 'prized' view, rather than he view of it from the Robson Square side.

[officedweller]

Pic by me today - scaffolding coming down.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Pic by me today - scaffolding coming down.

Reminded me of the tour of Vancouver Block next week but it's already sold out

[officedweller]

Historic Vancouver Block clock gets a modern touch in restoration
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...clock-gets-a-modern-touch-in-restoration
Paywall applies...


Engineer Kulwant Bains, Ray Saunders and Dylan Scott inside of the Vancouver block clock. PHOTO BY ARLEN REDEKOP /PNG
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...clock-gets-a-modern-touch-in-restoration

[jollyburger]

852 Seymour is up for sale so nothing happening there anytime soon.

https://www.spacelist.ca/listings/821198/bc/vancouver/for-sale/land/852_seymour_st

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

852 Seymour is up for sale so nothing happening there anytime soon.

https://www.spacelist.ca/listings/821198/bc/vancouver/for-sale/land/852_seymour_st

Of course it's for sale. The project had an Arno Matis design. How many actually get built?

[jollyburger]

I guess that's what you get for being an "up and coming" firm.. developers who have huge ambitions that burn out or little projects like this.

[officedweller]

Hopefully something taller than the Arno Matis design will go in its place.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Hopefully something taller than the Arno Matis design will go in its place.

That might be difficult if the hotel tower gets built next door. Ideally the developer would buy it and incorporate it into the hotel.

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That might be difficult if the hotel tower gets built next door. Ideally the developer would buy it and incorporate it into the hotel.

Hopefully. Although, one of our last downtown surface level parking lots is saved, for now.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Hopefully. Although, one of our last downtown surface level parking lots is saved, for now.

The surface parking lot is the hotel project. This was for those little buildings next door.

Only way I could see them incorporating the lot next door is if they want to do a total redo (ie taller)

Two view cones pass diagonally above site.
The maximum height allowed by the view cone
along Seymour St. is 96.7m (317.5’); the view cone
adjacent to the lane is higher, at 122.6m (402.5’).
At an overall building height of 96.7m (317.5’), the
building is in compliance with the lowest view
cone regulations

https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/848-seymour-st/application-booklet.pdf

It's covered by 3.2.2 QE Park and 9.2.1 Cambie over the entirety of the lot. Assume only the QE Park applies to this site. F1.3 Choklit Park is the one that cuts across the Seymour Street facing side. I think 3.2.2 is the same so they would only get up to 122.6m I believe.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That might be difficult if the hotel tower gets built next door. Ideally the developer would buy it and incorporate it into the hotel.

That’s too bad the city doesn’t change their policy to have buildings built right up to each other like in every other city

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Hopefully something taller than the Arno Matis design will go in its place.

If it was developed on its own the floorplate would likely be too small to be economical. Not to mention parking.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

If it was developed on its own the floorplate would likely be too small to be economical. Not to mention parking.

Almost no parking required now?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

That’s too bad the city doesn’t change their policy to have buildings built right up to each other like in every other city

That makes zero sense in this context. The hotel is a tower with windows, not a slab with blank sides. If you look at projects like the two Onni rental buildings on West Pender, the City allows a streewall with light wells, but only where the height allows natural light to reach lower floors. If you had a streewall as tall as the proposed hotel it would be very oppressive. Residential towers are usually required to provide 80 feet separation, but it can be less for commercial buildings.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Almost no parking required now?

Well yes, on paper. I think marketing an office building for tenants is still demanding on-site parking. This building had a parkade elevator too if I remember.

[officedweller]

The hotel has a 0.6m setback from the property line on the side facing those parcels.
That's ridiculous, even with the proposed 8 storey project there.

Agreed that the best scenario would be for the hotel project to purchase the site and go taller. or build a shoulder on its building.


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/848-seymour-st/application-booklet.pdf

VC F is Chokit Park, which is proposed to be eliminated.
The other view cone appears to allow heights up to 122.677m, versus the currently proposed 96.8m.


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/848-seymour-st/application-booklet.pdf

This is the floorplan to the 17th floor (ie a reasonable height for the neighbouring lot).
This is only one suite on the middle of that side of the building.
If they had side-loaded the core to that side, suites 3 and 4 could have been made deeper, as was done on higher floors where an elevator core disappears (and the disappearing core could have been on that side, opening it up for a suite on higher floors).


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/848-seymour-st/application-booklet.pdf

Here's a upper floor.
The lower floor disappearing core could have been placed where I've marked in red
to allow a blank wall on that side for an abutting building.


https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applications/848-seymour-st/application-booklet.pdf

[jollyburger]

Listel Hotel 1300 Robson Building Permit went in last week

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=236342084

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That makes zero sense in this context. The hotel is a tower with windows, not a slab with blank sides. If you look at projects like the two Onni rental buildings on West Pender, the City allows a streewall with light wells, but only where the height allows natural light to reach lower floors. If you had a streewall as tall as the proposed hotel it would be very oppressive. Residential towers are usually required to provide 80 feet separation, but it can be less for commercial buildings.

Right, that’s true. In other words it’s the city policy preventing it. It’s too bad then that the hotel doesn’t have a blank wall on that side

[officedweller]

The Landis

Tile work turned out nicely.
There's metal bead strip on the corners to prevent chipping.

Pic by me today.