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Old Posted Jul 28, 2023, 5:54 PM
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I suspect as the impact of the pandemic wanes and more people are being request to return to offices the % commute between the new New Haven-Hartford CSA and NYC CSA will increase. As of 2022 the ridership NY/NH line had not reach pre-pandemic levels, ~80k/day versus 125K/day, respectively. For the 1st quarter of 2023 numbers on Metro-North are up 34% so the trend for NY/NH line is likely positive. Let's see what happens in 2030.
Right, yeah, I thought of this, and that commuter belt is heavily dependent on New Haven line traffic, which was obviously way down during the pandemic and has taken a while to recover. The recovery has been pretty strong this year, and it looks likely that 2030 might be a consolidated CSA again, but this time including Hartford.

But then it makes the Census classifications even dumber. Why would a place be a metro or not based on a pandemic, or a disruption in commuting patterns? And how does that explain Sullivan County, which only has relatively limited bus service to Manhattan (and the bus service is built more around weekending, not really daily commutes)?

Maybe with Sullivan County, since it's second home land, people were recording their employment in Manhattan and their residence in Sullivan, even though it's generally NYC residents who were temporarily living full-time in Sullivan? So Sullivan might also drop off next decade?
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