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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2025, 1:43 PM
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Look harder.
What are the specific allegations regarding Carney's children's?

Keep in mind however that any such allegations are not germaine to Carney's character and ability, and, as pointed out above, Liberals have also been busy on the rumour mill about PP's wife.
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It is absolutely disgusting the things people have posted on X.

Pierre congratulated Trump on his win. Did not do the same for Carney. Will be interested to see if he condones the vile posts.
When Trump won the presidency?
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If “conservatives attack mark carneys kids” brings up nothing I’m not gonna waste my time, I saw people on Facebook talking about this too, and Jagmeet post, but no links to anything, just people complaining.

So what did they do?
     
     
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Except for Peterson, I doubt those guys could pick Pierre in a lineup with Carney
Several are aware because of the Trudeau hatred. Certainly O'Leary who is Canadian and Shapiro had him on his show though knows little about Canada has mentioned this being bad for the Conservatives who he probably would very much like to see back in power for Isreal reasons.
     
     
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lol...this will go over well. This is Carney sticking it to Trump. If Trump takes an immediate dislike to Carney, I can see it being beneficial politically. Trump hates Zelenskyy, and definitely does not want him at the G7 Convention.
This is not a good idea.

Given how Carney went out of his way to smooth those water when he said how he respected Trump why go shit the bed now? Telling Trump the 51st state stuff has to stop before negotiations is smart. That’s a Canadian PM’s job. Needlessly provoking Trump on Canadian soil is stupid.
     
     
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I watched it this morning live. It's really the tale of two halves; his stuff on Trump and the USA tariffs was good as it usually is, and his plans for building the Canadian economy were good too. but like blackdog pointed out, these are ideas which Carney has himself adopted into the Liberal pitch, which a lot more people are paying to right now.

The other half was him going on and on about the carbon tax. Like someone has to get through to him that it's over, it's time to drop it. I'm starting to take it personally that he thinks that people like myself would buy into the "he's lying, trust me bro" approach here.

I think Pierre has one final shot to turn things around, but it's a bit of a hail mary. The more that Carney speaks and interacts with the media, it's clearly evident that he kind of sucks at it, and has a very short trigger. Dude was an absolute dick to Rosemary Barton today. There's something about this blind trust thing that clearly annoys Mark. Pierre would be smart to try and exploit this during a debate to see if he can get Mark to crack. I'm aware that Pierre is an absolute dick too, but I think most people already know that. If he can get Mark to explode he could come out looking good in comparison.

The exchange between himself and Barton in question:
https://x.com/stephen_taylor/status/1901735221021528155
More great analysis here.

I also saw the Carney exchange with the two female journalists. The questions were downright stupid. It's a blind trust, he has no idea what's in it. They were clearly meant to bait him and he fell for it hook line and sinker. Carney's response was condescending and future exchanges like this will hurt him. Everybody knows PP is a condescending dick with reporters like you said, but this type of stuff will hurt Carney more. You can tell he's not experienced with the politician part of this. We aren't in a business meeting here. A change of tone is needed and fast. Watching this reminds us how talented JT was as a politician. The guy was a master at his craft love him or hate him.

Election will be called this week, and like we've seen in the last 2 months...things can change fast. I have not written off the Conservatives just yet. Pierre has a chance to turn this around. If Carney continues his elitist snob persona, he can piss away his new lead in the polls. Singh is done and his party will be lucky to get 7-10 seats.

The support for Carney is still soft, meaning he has more to lose than PP. Lots of voter projection going on right now and 25% of voters know nothing about him. The campaign will be crucial. This is still anyones game to win. We have an actual horse race and its going to start by the end of this week. Election April 28th or May 5th.
     
     
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If Carney continues his elitist snob persona, he can piss away his new lead in the polls.
On the other hand, if Carney does away with that, it’ll be a much welcomed change for LPC. At that point, PP has done an unintended good job as opposition.
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What are the specific allegations regarding Carney's children's?

Keep in mind however that any such allegations are not germaine to Carney's character and ability, and, as pointed out above, Liberals have also been busy on the rumour mill about PP's wife.
I think they may be referring to his eldest who is trans and was a patient at a trans clinic in the UK that was forced to shut down after the Cass Report there.
     
     
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How the fark did PP amass "25 million" as a career politician?

How the fark?
Couldn’t find any credible source for that.

It’s either 1) completely made up / fake info, or 2) if it’s true, it’s actually a very positive characteristic, given that PP never did anything in his adult life other than “receive a MP’s salary”. It takes an astute and disciplined manager to turn that (relative) pocket change into $25M in assets while still living off it every year.
     
     
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I think they may be referring to his eldest who is trans and was a patient at a trans clinic in the UK that was forced to shut down after the Cass Report there.
Well, that's nobody's business..........
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I think they may be referring to his eldest who is trans and was a patient at a trans clinic in the UK that was forced to shut down after the Cass Report there.
Apparently the whole story may be incorrect, according to more reliable sources. The bottom line is, the Conservative-backed media (True North, etc) jumped on it, and used his daughter to further the anti-Transgender narrative that we all see is so common in MAGA politics.

However, most Canadians are not supportive of this, and it will almost certainly backfire on the Conservatives, since they are so closely aligned with alt-right Independent news. Maple MAGA is extremely unpopular in Canada.
     
     
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I'm surprised you interpret his response that way. He certainly schooled Barton, but in the calm, measured way that seems to be his baseline. I could see that he won't suffer fools gladly, but he seems to me to be a man fully in control of himself. Whether he has a nasty/angry streak, I couldn't say but we've never seen it.
His competition is the apple munching guy, so keep that in mind. How does PP treat the media again?
     
     
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Look harder.

Without providing any details why should we look harder? If you have proof to back up those claims please share them. Otherwise you are no better then people like MTG spreading misinformation planted in the deepest regions of the internet meant to start conspiracies.

One doesn't need to search long to find questionable comments and connections from PP to the MAGA movement until it became unpopular with the F@ck Trudeau bumper sticker truck drivers Once Frump took office.


It's a bit like the WHS press Secretary yesterday saying Biden never signed his pardon Documents and staffers did it without his knowledge and that that's the story all the reporters should be covering. When asked if the Whitehouse had proof to back up that claim the press secretary said it's the journalists who should uncover the truth.

Just more B.S coming out of that waste of flesh in the whitehouse meant to muddy up the truth more more conspiracy's.

I do wonder how many of the conspiracies are started by the kremlin.
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This is not a good idea.

Given how Carney went out of his way to smooth those water when he said how he respected Trump why go shit the bed now? Telling Trump the 51st state stuff has to stop before negotiations is smart. That’s a Canadian PM’s job. Needlessly provoking Trump on Canadian soil is stupid.
We know you're a Putin apologist and want Canada to bend over to whatever demands Trump has. This is par for the course.
     
     
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A google of PP's net worth has this hit for $25M:

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/wealth/pierre-poilievre-net-worth/

Nice watch collection, I wonder if he shops with Jagmeet.
     
     
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A google of PP's net worth has this hit for $25M:

https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/wealth/pierre-poilievre-net-worth/

Nice watch collection, I wonder if he shops with Jagmeet.
So it’s all tweets and memes and an article from the lawyers club of India reporting on Pierre’s net worth. lol sounds like more conspiracies.
     
     
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I think we should take sketchy sounding websites with a grain of salt.

That being said Trudeau, Singh, Carney and Poilievre probably all have net worth in the millions.
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So it’s all tweets and memes and an article from the lawyers club of India reporting on Pierre’s net worth. lol sounds like more conspiracies.
So what is his net worth? Does he own all of those properties listed? Why don't we have a good idea of it?

You of all people distrusting a random internet source is hilarious.
     
     
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I think we should take sketchy sounding websites with a grain of salt.

That being said Trudeau, Singh, Carney and Poilievre probably all have net worth in the millions.
It's just so obvious when hypocrites out there will use excuses like wealth, lack of a real job, or business acumen as either a pro or a con depending on what party the person in question represents.
     
     
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I think we should take sketchy sounding websites with a grain of salt.

That being said Trudeau, Singh, Carney and Poilievre probably all have net worth in the millions.
Only one of those four made his money in the private sector, long before he considered politics.
     
     
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