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ardecila
Jun 7, 2008, 8:46 AM
No, you haven't lost your mind. Complaining about noise and exhaust is one of the few things that NIMBYs can do to feel better if they fail to stop the construction altogether; you know, sticking it to the developers and hurting their bottom line by restricting construction hours and lengthening the timeframe for delivery of units.

I really like this design, but with many, many towers going up in lower Manhattan, why should Sheldon Silver give a rat's mass about this one?

Lecom
Jun 7, 2008, 7:16 PM
No, you haven't lost your mind. Complaining about noise and exhaust is one of the few things that NIMBYs can do to feel better if they fail to stop the construction altogether; you know, sticking it to the developers and hurting their bottom line by restricting construction hours and lengthening the timeframe for delivery of units.


Calling projects "Hong Kong on the Hudson", saying that a skyscraper (Torre Verre) is inappropriate in Midtown, etc. is sticking it to developers for the sake of it. However, no loud noise during after-hours is indeed a reasonable thing to ask. This isn't Ground Zero, where workers must work round the clock to speed up rebuilding a key element of New York's infrastructure. There is no reason why the workers must be working at night on this project.

NYguy
Jun 8, 2008, 7:10 PM
We already had the one incident over at Goldman with the steel falling at the ballfield below, so it only makes peferct sense.


Of course it does. What sand persone would send their child to a school with construction still going on hundreds of feet overhead?

NYguy
Jun 8, 2008, 7:12 PM
This isn't Ground Zero, where workers must work round the clock to speed up rebuilding a key element of New York's infrastructure. There is no reason why the workers must be working at night on this project.

These are some of the same people who have been complaining about the delay in the school's opening, and about the length of construction in general. So, they either deal with shorter and lengthy construction, or longer and quicker construction. Either way, they'll find something to complain about, so it hardly matters.

Scruffy
Jun 10, 2008, 2:11 AM
6/9
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC01992.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC01993.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC01995.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC01998.jpg

there is a fairly sizable space allotted to the park between these two buildings
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC01994.jpg

NYC4Life
Jun 10, 2008, 2:31 AM
Good Updates Scruffy. This one is surely rising fast :banana:

colemonkee
Jun 10, 2008, 2:53 AM
Those iPod dancers sure do seem excited about this one.

NYC4Life
Jun 10, 2008, 2:59 AM
Those iPod dancers sure do seem excited about this one.

They probably won't be there when the base is completed :haha:

antinimby
Jun 10, 2008, 9:20 AM
It must have been incredibly tough for those construction workers to be out there and toiling in that heat.

NYguy
Jun 10, 2008, 11:36 AM
6/9


http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC01998.jpg

Now that we have a final rendering, this is a more exciting site to see...

NYguy
Jun 10, 2008, 11:46 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=alqRqjH7kDIM&refer=muse

Flashy Towers by Gehry, Van Berkel Drape, Pleat N.Y. Skyline

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iob.l67ophDg

Review by James S. Russell

June 10 (Bloomberg) -- New residential projects in New York by brand-name architects keep on coming. Ben van Berkel's Five Franklin Place takes the glass-box condo and ties it up in sinuous ribbons of black metal. Frank Gehry drapes the Beekman Tower's 76 stories in voluptuous folds of stainless steel.

More is to come from Rem Koolhaas, Daniel Libeskind and Jean Nouvel. These are not just emblems of confidence in the New York market. They also express faith in architecture that strives for significance.

Rising architecture star Van Berkel of Amsterdam's UNStudio didn't make the 20-story Five Franklin Place look like its Tribeca neighbors. Instead, he craftily reinterprets old New York. The tall rows of cast-iron columns that face Lower Manhattan's old loft buildings become contemporary when he turns them sideways. These tubes whip around corners in auto-body-sleek curves, widen to form sunshades, dip to enclose balconies and narrow to frame views over Tribeca's tumbled roofscape.

Van Berkel compares the design to couture, specifically the pleated fabrics conjured by Issey Miyake.

``They move comfortably with the body,'' he says in an interview at the project's showroom. Similarly, he softens the stiffness of the condo box.

Inside, he calls for high ceilings in the duplex units on the lower floors, stealing a brilliant light-capturing idea from those old lofts. (These units start at $2.8 million.)

Sculptural Kitchen

Working with B+B Italia, the legendary design manufacturer, he creates a swooping pedestal, as graceful as a Brancusi sculpture, that erupts out of the floor to become a kitchen work surface. Your morning Wheat Chex will never look the same.

His curves soften sharp corners and blend cabinets into walls. A half-round door wrapping a bathtub slides away to reveal not only the living room but urban panoramas while you lather. Van Berkel is a stylist, and he creates design as debonair as Streamline Moderne for the project's developers, Leo Tsimmer and David Kislin, former commodities traders.

One of van Berkel's best-known designs is the 1998 Mobius House, which seemed to fold over and double back on itself. He reworks the idea in the expansive penthouses (priced up to $16 million).

You never encounter dead ends, he says, and ``walk in endless ways, where you can always open a door and view a panorama of the city.'' It's a notion that's both romantic and elegiac.

Gehry's First Skyscraper

In contrast to van Berkel's self-conscious sleekness, Frank Gehry's first real skyscraper -- at age 79! -- makes a stark silhouette on the skyline. Clad in a rumpled shiny surface of stainless-steel panels, the T-shaped rental-apartment tower for Forest City Ratner will rise 867 feet, notched by shallow setbacks at 16-story intervals.

It's the classic New York wedding-cake profile, and it derives a strange power from being stretched vertically so much. It will stand totemically amid medium-height buildings on Spruce Street near the Manhattan end of the Brooklyn Bridge.

Gehry and partner Craig Webb soften the effect with a surface warped into drapelike folds that sway as they descend the tower, as if picked up by a passing breeze. The sharp edges and soft surfaces look unreconciled in models yet may come to life in the changing light of day.

It's a daring esthetic gambit that injects some needed vigor into the skyline.

Inside, the 903 apartments (mostly studios and one-bedrooms) line up along their skinny corridors with bland efficiency (the work of apartment-plan specialist Ismael Leyva). Rents are expected to be about $5,800 a month for a 1,000-square-foot unit.

Upper floors, with 360-degree views, feature larger layouts. The exterior wiggles give some units a bay window. That's the end of the excitement, though.

Public School Pedestal

As part of a deal brokered with state Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, the tower rises from a pedestal formed by a six- story, orange-brick public school that could readily be mistaken for a pharmaceutical lab. Yes, there will be some new green space, yet the dim, architecturally abused streets of Lower Manhattan -- not to mention the school children -- deserve a bit of the Gehry lyricism too.

At its best, the celebrity-architect trend is finally upending the presumption that developers can put up any piece of junk if they have the location and the view. Van Berkel and Gehry transform the constraints of building in New York, mainly its idiosyncratic zoning. Architecture again reflects the city's restless dynamism.

NYguy
Jun 10, 2008, 12:56 PM
lowermanhattan.info

http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/08_060308-beekmancementtruc.jpg


http://lowermanhattan.info/construction/gallery/photos/07_060308beekmantowers.jpg

tdawg
Jun 10, 2008, 5:40 PM
I thought I'd throw in Five Franklin Place since it's mentioned in the article.

http://www.archinect.com/images/uploads/042908_144127.jpg

Hoodrat
Jun 11, 2008, 6:27 PM
^^

thanks...was wonderin' 'bout that one:)

NYguy
Jun 14, 2008, 12:39 PM
JUNE 12, 2008

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641468/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641473/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641480/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641480/original.jpg


Generous space between towers...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641481/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641482/large.jpg


Won't be long before it's towering over neighbors...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641485/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/98641487/large.jpg

antinimby
Jun 14, 2008, 12:56 PM
Building the base should be fairly quick and easy. The tower portion will be more tricky and time-consuming because of the irregular-shaped floorplates.

CoolCzech
Jun 14, 2008, 4:08 PM
Good Updates Scruffy. This one is surely rising fast :banana:

Yeah, well it's about TIME. This one has been a proposal for several years now. Has anyone figured out yet what the big deal about publishing the final rendering was, anyway?:shrug:

NYguy
Jun 14, 2008, 9:01 PM
Has anyone figured out yet what the big deal about publishing the final rendering was, anyway?:shrug:

Gehry has said in the past that he wanted to be sure the skyscraper would be built before putting out the final rendering. But there have also been changes constantly being made to the tower.

samoen313
Jun 16, 2008, 2:22 PM
I don't get it. How can some talentless, post-modern hangover like Kaufman get so many damned commissions when the city is quite literally crawling (from hunger at the lack of real commissions) with exceptional architects. It's just not fair.

Lecom
Jun 16, 2008, 8:09 PM
I don't get it. How can some talentless, post-modern hangover like Kaufman get so many damned commissions

Because he charges a buck fifty per building, and cheap developers like Sam Chang love that Wal-Mart pricing, even though it comes with Wal-Mart quality.

photoLith
Jun 17, 2008, 2:27 AM
For me it seems there is something missing from this tower, it seems to short, like they chopped off the rest of the tower and left it at that. The top seems to end too abruptly, it would look a lot better if they keep making the setbacks and made it about 1200 ft tall, but Im sure theres height restrictions and crap like that but still, it seems incomplete.

NYguy
Jun 27, 2008, 1:44 PM
http://downtownexpress.com/de_269/cb1approvesratners.html

C.B. 1 approves Ratner’s tax break just by saying no

http://downtownexpress.com/de_269/cb1.gif

By Julie Shapiro
June 27 - July 3, 2008


Forest City Ratner executives threatened to halt construction of the new school on Beekman St. unless they receive a 20-year tax break from the city.

At an emergency meeting of Community Board 1’s Executive Committee June 18, Forest City said funding for the pre-K-8 school and 76-story apartment tower was in jeopardy. In March, Forest City closed on $680 million in construction financing for the project, but MaryAnne Gilmartin, an executive vice president at Forest City Ratner, said the money could disappear unless Ratner also receives a 20-year 421-a tax abatement.

Without the abatement, “Work would certainly stop on [the] site and then we would have delays,” Gilmartin said.

Delays are not new for the project. The school, originally slated to open in fall 2008, was pushed to fall 2009 after an education budget dispute between the city and the state, and then it was pushed to fall 2010 because Ratner had trouble getting the financing. Many community members, including Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, who recruited Ratner to build the school, doubt the fall 2010 date and think the school will not be safe to open until fall 2011 because of the construction of the Frank Gehry-designed tower above it.

Eager to avoid more setbacks, the Executive Committee weighed Forest City’s request that the board endorse its application for the tax abatement. C.B. 1 had little time to consider the issue, because Forest City needed an answer immediately. The rules for 421-a abatements changed on June 19, and under the new rules, the developer would only be eligible for a 10-year abatement, not a 20-year one, Gilmartin said. The 10-year abatement would not be enough to keep the project moving forward, she said.

The board had 45 days to comment on the application, but in order to give Ratner a shot at getting the 20-year abatement, the board had to make a decision by June 19, before the 45 days were up. Had the board used the full 45 days to make a comment, they would have run out the clock and prevented Ratner from getting the 20-year abatement, said Seth Donlin, spokesperson for the city Department of Housing Preservation and Development. It was a rare instance of the board having veto power over financing for a major development, and it only occurred because of the timing of the changes in the 421-a rules.

In an ironic twist, the only way the board could have denied Ratner the tax break was to remain silent — the board’s resolution harshly criticizing the application fulfilled the public comment requirement and served as a green light.

Julie Menin, chairperson of C.B. 1, was torn over whether to give Ratner the abatement, because she thought market-rate buildings should not receive government subsidies. But at the same time, she did not want to risk killing the project by delaying comment.

“We don’t want to do anything to jeopardize the financing of the school,” Menin said.

So she decided on a compromise, which the board supported: The board passed a resolution that criticizes the H.P.D. for awarding abatements to unaffordable projects, but in passing the resolution, the board also tacitly supported H.P.D.’s decision to give Ratner the abatement and keep the project moving.

Workers are already framing the fifth floor of the Beekman tower, but just because the building is under construction did not mean it was grandfathered into the expiring 421-a rules, Donlin said. Forest City Ratner and any other developers who wanted to take advantage of the old 421-a provisions had to apply before the changeover.

The Beekman tower is eligible for a 20-year abatement under the old 421-a rules because it received “substantial government assistance” in the form of Liberty Bonds, Donlin said. But once the rules on 421-a change, it won’t be enough for developers to just receive government assistance — they have to use that assistance to create at least 20 percent affordable housing in their building.

Forest City Ratner executives have repeatedly refused to add affordable apartments to the Beekman building, so under the new rules, they would not qualify for the 20-year abatement. At the Executive Committee meeting, Gilmartin had trouble convincing board members that Forest City needs the 20-year tax break for a building where rents will start at $4,000 to $15,000.

“I find it absolutely obscene that a landlord that is going to be charging $15,000 a month for an apartment is still asking for tax abatements on top of rents like that,” said Linda Belfer, chairperson of the Battery Park City Committee. “It’s unbelievable to me that we good people have to even sit here and discuss this. This is not a low-income project.”

John Fratta, chairperson of the Seaport/Civic Center Committee, agreed, saying, “To call this affordable housing is a slap in the face of our community…. I would be opposed to [giving] any tax credits to any development that doesn’t have strictly affordable housing.”

Tenants of 421-a projects start out paying market rate, but the yearly rent increases are determined by the Rent Guidelines Board, which offers a measure of stability. Once the term of the abatement expires, the apartments return to market-rate rents.

Lisa Yee, director of tax incentives for the H.P.D., told the board that Forest City Ratner met the preliminary qualifications for the 20-year 421-a abatement. C.B. 1’s objections, she said, are supposed to be limited to the developer’s history and whether the project met the qualifications — but instead, the board objected to the qualifications themselves.

In a resolution that passed overwhelmingly, C.B. 1 said that regardless of whether the Beekman tower met the H.P.D.’s technical criteria for tax abatements, the project is too unaffordable to receive public money. The board urged H.P.D. to reconsider its criteria and think carefully before granting the benefits.

But at the same time, the board said the decision on the tax abatement should not have any impact on the school’s construction. The project received $200 million in Liberty Bonds because of Forest City’s decision to build the school, so the developer cannot renege on that promise, board members said.

The Liberty Bonds also required that Ratner make a commitment to affordable housing, either by building affordable housing on site or by donating money to a city affordable housing fund. Ratner elected to keep the apartments market rate, so the city Housing Development Corporation put $6 million of the fees generated from the Liberty Bond financing toward affordable housing, according to an H.D.C. release.

The 903 units in the tower will be 20 percent studios, 60 percent one-bedrooms, 18 percent two-bedrooms and 2 percent three-bedrooms.

C.B. 1 has never weighed in on 421-a tax abatements before, but Menin, board chairperson, wants to change that.

“We need to have our voice heard,” she told Downtown Express before the emergency meeting. “I don’t believe the city’s definition of ‘affordable’ is workable.”

Menin directed the Planning and Community Infrastructure Committee, chaired by Jeff Galloway, to develop standards for responding to 421-a applications from developers.

Galloway wants to see the board take an active role as more than just a “fact checker” for H.P.D. Once the board builds a track record of responding to 421-a applications, H.P.D. will take the board’s feedback more seriously, Menin said. She has spoken with other leaders of community boards, who regularly review 421-a applications, and they told Menin they have been able to affect H.P.D.’s policy with their comments.

The full board voted on the 421-a resolution at its meeting Tuesday night, although the comment was already a moot point because the abatement had been granted. Some board members thought Forest City used the threat of delaying the school as a way of getting what they wanted from the board.

“I don’t think the project or the school were ever really in jeopardy,” said Paul Hovitz, a board member. “I think they were manipulating us [into helping them get the abatement]. We were being blackmailed.”

NYC4Life
Jun 28, 2008, 3:50 AM
Best tower being built in Lower Manhattan, aside from the WTC of course :notacrook:

NYguy
Jun 28, 2008, 12:13 PM
JUNE 27, 2008

Looking down Beekman Street...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/99343567/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/99343568/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/99343571/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/99343572/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/99343572/original.jpg

scalziand
Jun 28, 2008, 2:49 PM
One more podium level, and then the tower starts.

NYguy
Jun 29, 2008, 11:00 AM
One more podium level, and then the tower starts.

Yeah, here's the base from the Spruce Street side...

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/2369_4_beekman%205big.jpg

It's where the little kiddies will spend their days...

antinimby
Jun 29, 2008, 3:40 PM
How many people can say they went to a 76-story school?

NYC4Life
Jun 29, 2008, 4:55 PM
How many people can say they went to a 76-story school?

Only those attending 56 Leonard will have their fair share of high-rise schools :tup:

scalziand
Jun 29, 2008, 7:31 PM
Don't forget the 59 story 250 E. 57th St.;)

NYguy
Jun 30, 2008, 12:42 PM
How many people can say they went to a 76-story school?

And not just any 76-story school, but this beauty, a future New York landmark. Twenty or thirty years from now, when those kids see postcards, it could bring back bad or good memories (depending on the experience)...:sly: Either way, they'll never be able to forget it.

NYC4Life
Jun 30, 2008, 9:58 PM
Only if a school is built on the Torre Verre, will those students finally have some bragging rights and possibly lay claim to "World's Highest Public School" :cool:

hi123
Jul 20, 2008, 7:08 AM
Any picture updates?

Aleks
Jul 20, 2008, 8:19 AM
What grade level is the school? Highschool? Elementary? Middle?

NYguy
Jul 21, 2008, 9:36 PM
What grade level is the school? Highschool? Elementary? Middle?

From K to 8th.

NYguy
Aug 1, 2008, 5:15 AM
From sabeth718 (http://flickr.com/photos/sabeth718/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2662814464_af23287799_b.jpg

NYC2ATX
Aug 1, 2008, 7:09 AM
Tower! Tower! Tower! Tower! I'm getting impatient....

Tom Servo
Aug 1, 2008, 9:06 AM
this project intrigues me a lot. i've been checking this thread a lot lately, and i guess i'll offer my opinion:

man... i just LOVE that base... it's just so anti-climatic and so pedestrian friendly... it's plain and clean and leaves me with a calm feeling. something i didn't think i'd EVER see come out of gehry's office... it's refreshingly NON-gehry!

i can't say i like the tower though. i think it would benefit greatly from having a flat facade. the waves are just so trite and forced looking. but what intrigues so much about this project and what keeps me checking this thread for updates is the INSANE amount of steel (i'm kind of a sucker for metal facades) !!! something about 80 stories of A SILVER SURFACE is such a cool idea to me... i can't wait to see the result in the morning sun. and i guess another pro i see in the tower is it's massing. it's so... new york... mainly in how it echos the set back pattern of the tall towers of early last century.
:2cents:

Lecom
Aug 1, 2008, 1:24 PM
man... i just LOVE that base... it's just so anti-climatic and so pedestrian friendly... it's plain and clean and leaves me with a calm feeling. something i didn't think i'd EVER see come out of gehry's office... it's refreshingly NON-gehry!


The base wasn't designed by Gehry, but by a different firm that's also responsible for the school design.

Tom Servo
Aug 2, 2008, 1:20 AM
The base wasn't designed by Gehry, but by a different firm that's also responsible for the school design.

ooooooooh... that make SO MUCH more sense!!! :tup: what firm did the base?

NYguy
Aug 2, 2008, 3:00 AM
ooooooooh... that make SO MUCH more sense!!! :tup: what firm did the base?

A little more here:

If the project has a weakness, it is the disparate levels of creative energy invested in the building’s public and private spheres. Partly because of the budget constraints facing a typical public school, Mr. Gehry settled on a relatively straightforward design for the base. Its brick cladding, pierced by big industrial windows, verges on austere.

So far the school’s interiors, designed by the New York firm Swanke Hayden Connell, seem dully conventional. By contrast, the residential tower’s entrance is invested with all of Mr. Gehry’s characteristic flair. Wavy panels made of steel trelliswork hang from the entry’s ceiling; big squat columns frame views to a small public garden outside.

Tom Servo
Aug 2, 2008, 8:50 AM
verges on austere.

hahaha the base 'lacks creative energy' yet, it's the strongest aspect of this building. :haha: :koko:


who wrote that NYguy? is that from the new york times? cause that can't be paul goldberger...

NYguy
Aug 2, 2008, 10:50 PM
^ The base - at least the Spruce St side - could really be considered another building, but I prefer the tower itself.

Lecom
Aug 4, 2008, 11:54 PM
I'm kind of bummed out that they did not extend the tower's metal facade all the way to the street level. To an average user, the building would mostly read as mundane, though hopefully well-executed, as passerbys on the street do not always take time to look up at buildings towering above them. However, I am aware of the complications they had when trying to incorporate the unusual curtain wall with the condo units, and I can only imagine the difficulties they would've encountered with a heavily regulated facility like a school. However, I'm not complaining since it seems like the base will come out decent either way.

chex
Aug 5, 2008, 4:30 AM
yes yes, crane crane!

Antares41
Aug 14, 2008, 1:28 PM
Pictures over in WiredNY indicate that construction of the tower portion has commenced.:tup:

Lecom
Aug 14, 2008, 3:14 PM
Pictures over in WiredNY indicate that construction of the tower portion has commenced.:tup:

Speaking of such...

photos posted by ZippyTheChimp at WNY
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/106/beekman04con3.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beekman04con3.jpg) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7994/beekman05cuw2.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beekman05cuw2.jpg) http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2589/beekman06ckm1.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beekman06ckm1.jpg)

Curves make an appearance
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5570/beekman07ceg9.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2272/beekman08cij1.jpg

Nowhereman1280
Aug 14, 2008, 5:59 PM
^^^ I think this has already been said, but it looks like they are using a similar technique to get the crinkled effect on this building as they are using to get the wavy effect on Aqua in Chicago. They seem to have the same type of formwork as well.

NYC2ATX
Aug 15, 2008, 12:49 AM
OMG it's really happening!!!!!!!

:eeekk: :psycho: :eeekk:

Lecom
Aug 15, 2008, 1:16 AM
^^^ I think this has already been said, but it looks like they are using a similar technique to get the crinkled effect on this building as they are using to get the wavy effect on Aqua in Chicago. They seem to have the same type of formwork as well.

Yep, I thought of that too. Same technique used for quite a different purpose, to create subtler and more angular undulations that would later be enclosed as opposed to Aqua's sweeping curves that cantilever quite far out from the facade.

Also, like Aqua, it appears to be a conventional concrete box behind the undulations.

CoolCzech
Aug 18, 2008, 11:32 PM
FINALLY the tower is a-rising! This project was shown as a "proposal" in the diagrams section when I first started posting here... what, six years ago now?:hmmm:

chex
Aug 19, 2008, 1:50 AM
oohh yeah!!!
is that part of the podium or base of the tower, the one with the curves?? because the columns seems small for such a tower...

NYC4Life
Sep 2, 2008, 7:09 PM
Construction Update 9/1/08

Pics By: econ_tim - Wired New York

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2820089854_2461995780_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2820152954_3f9a9dbf7f.jpg

Fabb
Sep 3, 2008, 7:25 AM
I'm glad I checked this thread today. It's good to see the tower taking shape.

CoolCzech
Sep 6, 2008, 12:15 PM
oohh yeah!!!
is that part of the podium or base of the tower, the one with the curves?? because the columns seems small for such a tower...

It's gotta be the tower - you can see how the floors undulate outwards to form the curves.

Scruffy
Sep 6, 2008, 6:52 PM
they are making the sidewalks on either side of Beekman wider. Narrowing the street a little. Perhaps getting ready for the for influz of new residents and students

Scruffy
Sep 6, 2008, 6:53 PM
9/2/08
Base
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06676.jpg

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Scruffy
Sep 6, 2008, 7:04 PM
Tower portion
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06681.jpg

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http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06673.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06671.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06670.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06667.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z70/Scruffy66/saya/DSC06662.jpg

lakegz
Sep 11, 2008, 11:29 PM
From sept 11
http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v334/49/115/2512086/n2512086_42555780_830.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v334/49/115/2512086/n2512086_42555778_9874.jpg

NYC4Life
Sep 12, 2008, 1:02 AM
This one is coming along smoothly. Thanks for the photos.

Nei!l
Oct 6, 2008, 4:47 AM
No new posts in nearly a month?
Oh well, here's a photo update.


http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Nutane_bucket/IMG_1700.jpg?t=1223267417
This one taken from Park Row if you were wondering.

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Nutane_bucket/IMG_1721.jpg?t=1223267938

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Nutane_bucket/IMG_1720.jpg?t=1223267966


http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Nutane_bucket/IMG_1725.jpg?t=1223267993

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Nutane_bucket/IMG_1722.jpg?t=1223268349

I counted 13 floors.
Photos taken by me and congratulations to myself for figuring out how to put up images. :cheers:

Fabb
Oct 6, 2008, 6:13 AM
Thanks !
That was an excellent update.
I hope you'll do that again, soon.

NYC4Life
Oct 6, 2008, 7:24 AM
More Updates:

By: econ_tim (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=11327) - Wired New York

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2917181332_21fe6ddac1.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2917177082_e0de14160a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2917173726_9915efca8a_b.jpg

Fabb
Oct 6, 2008, 10:31 AM
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Nutane_bucket/IMG_1725.jpg?t=1223267993


I counted 13 floors.
Photos taken by me and congratulations to myself for figuring out how to put up images. :cheers:

I didn't realize that the side of the building was that narrow.
It'll look very slender.

NYC4Life
Oct 13, 2008, 9:08 PM
By: lofter1 (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=4502) - Wired New York

Now up to the 15th floor...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_241.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_248.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_2425.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_2445.jpg

NYC2ATX
Oct 14, 2008, 4:01 AM
I can't believe this is moving so fast! I'm gonna melt when the cladding goes on.

NYC4Life
Oct 14, 2008, 4:18 AM
This tower is now easily visible from Brooklyn.

NYC4Life
Oct 16, 2008, 11:56 PM
Rising in the Urban Jungle

By: Andrea Bez (http://flickr.com/photos/andreabez/). - Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2944295056_cc5525faae_b.jpg

bbeliko
Oct 17, 2008, 12:45 AM
i can't find it???

photoLith
Oct 17, 2008, 1:33 AM
i can't find it???

If you look closely you can see right to the north east of the Woolworth Building.

NYCLuver
Oct 18, 2008, 4:21 AM
Picture I took while walking in the area earlier today.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0963.jpg

Nei!l
Oct 18, 2008, 7:12 AM
Looks like it goes up two floors every week.

Fabb
Oct 18, 2008, 10:35 AM
Good !
That's a pace I can live with.
It'll be awesome next spring.

Sandy
Oct 18, 2008, 3:37 PM
Will you be there to check it?

photoLith
Oct 18, 2008, 4:06 PM
NYC4Life, howd you get those pictures? Whenever I fly into Newark or JFK, they dont pass right over the city like in these pictures. I do believe flying this close to the city is against FFA regulations.

JACKinBeantown
Oct 18, 2008, 5:09 PM
Apparently it's not. Planes fly directly over Manhattan all the time. I don't get it. You'd think they'd have changed that by now for obvious reasons.

NYC4Life
Oct 18, 2008, 5:42 PM
Apparently it's not. Planes fly directly over Manhattan all the time. I don't get it. You'd think they'd have changed that by now for obvious reasons.

Good thing NY doesn't build 2,000 footers.

NYC4Life
Oct 18, 2008, 11:27 PM
By: ZippyTheChimp (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=2463) - Wired New York

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/340/beekman10cez0.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6981/beekman11cmq7.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1038/beekman15cgk9.jpg

NYC2ATX
Oct 19, 2008, 5:14 AM
Apparently it's not. Planes fly directly over Manhattan all the time. I don't get it. You'd think they'd have changed that by now for obvious reasons.

It would be a crime to prevent airborne travelers from getting views like that on film.

Yea, last December I was flying into JFK from Chicago and we flew straight over Midtown/Times Square AT NIGHT. OMG it was a sight to see. All the sparkling lights were a great way to usher in Christmas vacation. :D

NYC4Life
Oct 19, 2008, 6:23 AM
New York airspace should be more restricted than that.

CGII
Oct 19, 2008, 3:16 PM
NYC4Life, howd you get those pictures? Whenever I fly into Newark or JFK, they dont pass right over the city like in these pictures. I do believe flying this close to the city is against FFA regulations.

Flying into LaGuardia gives you a grand tour of all five boroughs, starting with the Bronx and then down the Hudson along Manhattan, then over the bay and Staten Island, turning around over the ocean and flying over Brooklyn and landing in Queens.

That flight path can't deviate too much seeing as planes fly over my apt in Fort Greene every few minutes.

chex
Oct 24, 2008, 11:58 PM
very slender indeed... nice, come on cladding!

NYC4Life
Oct 25, 2008, 7:00 PM
Today

By: Sherpa (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=19963) - Wired New York

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6469&d=1224958417

NYguy
Nov 2, 2008, 10:14 PM
NOVEMBER 1, 2008


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105384892/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385206/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385229/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385257/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385284/large.jpg


Keep in mind that this is only a view of a setback, there are setbacks on both sides,
which is why it only appears to be slender from this angle.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385340/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385365/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/105385387/large.jpg

lakegz
Nov 3, 2008, 1:23 AM
holy cow this one is growing fast. This tower would seem like a pain in the butt if you were the concrete contractor, having every floor be cut out and jaggedly different from every other.

chex
Nov 3, 2008, 5:03 AM
that is part of its atractive, and i guess that kind of work makes it more expensive than a common shaped floor, am i right?

NYC4Life
Nov 4, 2008, 3:36 AM
More Updates

By: lofter1 (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=4502) - Wired New York

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_261.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_262.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_269.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_2617.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_2636.jpg

NYguy
Nov 4, 2008, 12:52 PM
http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/newsnov08/beekman.html

Ratner Exec Says Tower, School Are Still on Track

http://www.tribecatrib.com/photos/news/nov08/beekman-cafeteria.jpg

By Matt Dunning
OCTOBER 31, 2008

Even as the economy spiraled downward last month, developers of what will be New York’s tallest residential tower continued to set their eyes on the sky.

Construction of Forest City Ratner’s 76-story, Frank Gehry-designed Beekman Tower is on schedule to be completed in 2011, according to the developer, just as representatives of the company said it would be earlier this year.

The four-story k-8 school under construction at the base of the tower is also on schedule, according to MaryAnne Gilmartin, an executive vice president with Forest City Ratner.

“We are closely watching the market, but...the project is indifferent to it because the money is flowing either way,” Gilmartin said, after being honored by the American Institute of Architects for her work on both the Beekman Tower and the new New York Times building.

In June, representatives from Forest City Ratner promised members of Lower Manhattan’s Community Board 1 that it would deliver the much-needed elementary school, being built into the first four floors of the residential skyscraper, to the city’s Department of Education (DOE) in 2010. The first rental units will also be opened in 2010, although final construction of the tower would not complete until November 2011. According to Gilmartin, the company has been able to maintain those deadlines in large part because it had already secured the $680 million loan it needed to finance the project before the disastrous collapse of the country’s credit and stock markets.

“The financing has been locked in and untouched by the tumultuous market we find ourselves in,” Gilmartin said.

Though the company plans to hand over the 100,000-square-foot school in the summer of 2010, it is unlikely to be opened for the 2010-11 school year. Gilmartin said it would be up to the DOE, as well as the state School Construction Authority, to determine whether the school could or even should be open while construction goes on above it.

“I think there’s a lot of internal discussion at the city level about whether they want that,” Gilmartin said. “It’s not something they’re talking to us about yet, but they’ll come to us when they decide the kinds of things they want to explore.”

DOE spokeswoman Marge Feinberg said the department has yet to decide whether to open the school before the tower is finished.

“We’ll continue to monitor the progress there before we actually make a determination,” Feinberg said. “We know that occupancy could happen while the tower is still under construction.”

When the tower is complete, it will house more than 900 rental apartments, ranging from $4,000 to $10,000 a month. The building will also have parking and doctors’ offices for the New York Downtown Hospital, plus some retail space.

Despite the struggling economy, Gilmartin said, the company remains convinced it will have little difficulty finding tenants for the building.

“The New York City rental market really performs extraordinarily well in terms of its growth of rentals,” she said. “We expect that maybe the growth will be more modest over the next couple of years, but because we’re in it for the long haul and we’re patient...we’re feeling good about it.”

http://www.tribecatrib.com/photos/news/nov08/beekman-lobby.jpg

Ccastro87
Nov 9, 2008, 4:18 PM
The floor slabs on this tower look very thin.

NYC4Life
Nov 9, 2008, 9:21 PM
View of the base

By: Sherpa (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=19963) - Wired New York

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6515&d=1226156758

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6516&d=1226156895

NYC4Life
Nov 11, 2008, 6:30 PM
By: econ_tim (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=11327) - Wired New York

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/3017722196_d6aca99baf_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/3017720284_2edf7cf539_b.jpg

NYC4Life
Nov 11, 2008, 6:31 PM
Crane visible from the WTC site.

By: Sherpa (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=19963) - Wired New York

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6543&d=1226371260

charmedone
Nov 16, 2008, 2:21 AM
yet wnother pic i took today this one is comming up pretty fast

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/Picture267.jpg

NYC4Life
Nov 17, 2008, 9:28 PM
By: Sherpa (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=19963) - Wired New York

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6571&d=1226849324

CIPStructures8821
Nov 20, 2008, 4:38 AM
Who is the concrete contractor on this project?

NYC4Life
Nov 21, 2008, 9:02 PM
Brick Installation Begins

By: Sherpa (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=19963) - Wired New York

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6579&d=1227206977

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6580&d=1227207051

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6581&d=1227207068

NYC4Life
Dec 2, 2008, 11:51 PM
By: lofter1 (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=4502) - Wired New York

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Gehry%20NYC/GehryBeek_286.jpg

scalziand
Dec 3, 2008, 12:43 AM
You can really see the T-shape of the tower in that last photo. Can't wait for the cladding to start going up.

Fabb
Dec 3, 2008, 8:40 AM
Construction of Forest City Ratner’s 76-story, Frank Gehry-designed Beekman Tower is on schedule to be completed in 2011, according to the developer

So late ?
I'm a little upset about that.
Hopefully, it'll be topped out well before 2011.

NYC4Life
Dec 7, 2008, 3:07 AM
The actual start of construction was delayed at least a year.

NYguy
Dec 7, 2008, 12:31 PM
The wait was worth it, it's one of the fastest risers I've seen in Manhattan in a while. I'm sure Silverstein's Park Place tower will rise just as fast once it begins. Then people walking accross the Brooklyn Bridge will be in for quite a surprise as these two giants rise - with the WTC eventually looming and surpassing behind them...