Car Share - Page 8

chowhou · #**141** Posted **Jul 25, 2023, 8:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yeah there are some challenges, but you also don't really need 7.2kW per car depending on driving and the shifts involved.

I factored that in. Judging by Google Maps, Richmond Taxi for instance has a lot for around 84 cars with 19 sitting in the lot. (There are more cars but I figure those are the drivers' personal cars, I'm counting red cars).

EDIT: Black Top cabs has an even bigger fleet to deal with.

whatnext · #**142** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 12:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

I hate cabbies. I hate Uber/Lyft/Fantuan/DoorDash/etc. drivers. I think they're actual lower forms of human life closer to parasites and worms. They have no respect for other drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, the law, or even their clientele.

But try to remember the last time you saw a cabbie get into an accident.

I drive Granville through Vancouver a lot and trust me, I see a lot of taxi accidents. Most consist of taxis rat-running in the curb lane and someone a) tries to make a left hand turn and can't see the oncoming cab speeding down the "bus lane" through the two solid lanes of oncoming traffic b) someone turning right from a cross side street doesn't see the oncoming speeding cab (often switching lanes continuously) and pulls out in front of them.

You're right Uber/Lyft has taken it down to a new level. I see them trying to cross six lanes of busy traffic to continue on a side street (ie 38th). And then there was this infamous accident, no doubt when the driver was consulting his phone:
https://globalnews.ca/news/8838799/t...eet-vancouver/

aberdeen5698 · #**143** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 1:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I have seen a few EVs from different manufacturers running as cabs. It might depend on their schedules and charging habits. If they are relying on public fast charging, that is significantly more expensive than residential or commercial rates.

How far does a typical Vancouver cab drive in a day?

EVs get their best range in city driving because it's slower and they don't have to overcome the air resistance of freeway driving at high speed. My Chevy Bolt gets well over 400 km of range on a charge in city driving - although that dips to maybe 250 km in the winter if I'm using heat.

Overnight charging at residential rates is way cheaper than gas and gives you a car that's ready to go every morning.

NewfBC · #**144** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

It's also notable that a ton of Uber/Lyft drivers are running EVs.

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Originally Posted by chowhou

Anecdotally I've heard a few different reasons why so many Ubers/Lyfts are Teslas and none of them are because of a good business case for Teslas.

Hertz / Uber have a partnership where you can rent a Tesla weekly for Uber usage. SW Marine Hertz Location in Vancouver is the main local depot for this.

Ron.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**145** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 3:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Overnight charging at residential rates is way cheaper than gas and gives you a car that's ready to go every morning.

this is key to an EV i think. i have a cowworker who has an EV. for a few years they had no access to home charging; only at work. even with it being free at work, it was a major PITA for them. they disliked their EV experience quite a bit. but now they have home charging, and love it.

i am waiting for 2025 to get mine with NACS and Tesla Supercharger access. i would never buy a Tesla, but NACS is a better connector and the Supercharger network is great. i can wait until then but im looking forward to an EV as my daily car. planning the 50amp/12kW charger which will be perfect for overnight. (chargepoint homeflex looks great).

as for taxi's, i saw one up side down years back. he wasnt paying attention, went up on a jersey barrier and landed on his roof. eek.

WarrenC12 · #**146** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

How far does a typical Vancouver cab drive in a day?

Hard to say but google tells me urban cabs drive 200-300 kms/day. I'd bet around 200 for Vancouver based cabs, to 300 for those in the burbs.

aberdeen5698 · #**147** Posted **Jul 26, 2023, 8:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

...im looking forward to an EV as my daily car. planning the 50amp/12kW charger which will be perfect for overnight. (chargepoint homeflex looks great).

It was going to cost me a few thousand bucks to upgrade the underground service to my detached garage. While I mulled that over I stuck a 240V/20A breaker in my 30A panel and ran the 12A charger that came with the car from it. I've found that it's more than adequate for my needs and I've never bothered doing anything else.

When sizing your home charger, it's not the capacity of its battery that matters, it's how much you drive it on a typical day.

On the odd occasion where I've had back-to-back long trips on consecutive days I simply go to a fast charger and add just enough juice so that the car will fill up by the next morning on the home charger. I've had to do that maybe 2 or 3 times in almost 6 years of ownership.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**148** Posted **Jul 27, 2023, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

When sizing your home charger, it's not the capacity of its battery that matters, it's how much you drive it on a typical day.

i wont have to upgrade any electrical for my garage which makes it much easier. having to run a new underground service would not be worth it.

though the car i am looking at has a very large battery. over 200kWh battery @ 12kW charging could take about 18hrs to charge from what i have seen. so if i used 1/2 the battery in a day, i still need 12kW to charge it up in about 8hrs.

s211 · #**149** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 3:03 PM**

I've got a question about EVO shared cars.

A whole bunch (like 8-10) were getting towed in advance of fireworks night, overstaying their time on Howe Street. Who ends up paying for the ticket and the towing? Is the driver that leaves the car on the hook, or is the city giving EVO a break because of support for car-sharing?

Lexus · #**150** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 6:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

I've got a question about EVO shared cars.

A whole bunch (like 8-10) were getting towed in advance of fireworks night, overstaying their time on Howe Street. Who ends up paying for the ticket and the towing? Is the driver that leaves the car on the hook, or is the city giving EVO a break because of support for car-sharing?

Last person responsible for parking the vehicles will pay the ticket.

s211 · #**151** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lexus

Last person responsible for parking the vehicles will pay the ticket.

Which should be the case, but man the number of EVOs I've seen end up being illegally parked over the past few years. Way too many.

FarmerHaight · #**152** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Which should be the case, but man the number of EVOs I've seen end up being illegally parked over the past few years. Way too many.

There are a lot of EVOs and even more drivers. With all that volume you are bound to get poor drivers, inconsiderate parkers, or people who simply don't read street signs.

I am not surprised when an EVO driver gambles by parking in a time-restricted spot (e.g., no parking on this street between 3 and 7) because odds are someone will take your parked vehicle within an hour or so. I can't tell you how many times I park an EVO outside my house, and then leave 15 minutes later to find the EVO already gone.

chowhou · #**153** Posted **Jul 30, 2023, 1:05 AM**

Okay I saw this taxi today.

https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-y/...eet-vancouver/

So they do exist.

CanSpice · #**154** Posted **Nov 7, 2023, 5:29 PM**

Burnaby is changing their bylaws to allow Evo to park anywhere in the city. [source]

The bylaw changes also appear to target Modo, but there are already a bunch of Modo vehicles in Burnaby, so I'm not really sure what the impact would be for them. Edit: Upon thinking about it more this would be analogous to the stickers allowing Modo cars to park in "permit only" zones in Vancouver or New West, where they would park temporarily during a booking and not be for "floating" parking like Evo.

GenWhy? · #**155** Posted **Nov 7, 2023, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

Burnaby is changing their bylaws to allow Evo to park anywhere in the city. [source]

The bylaw changes also appear to target Modo, but there are already a bunch of Modo vehicles in Burnaby, so I'm not really sure what the impact would be for them. Edit: Upon thinking about it more this would be analogous to the stickers allowing Modo cars to park in "permit only" zones in Vancouver or New West, where they would park temporarily during a booking and not be for "floating" parking like Evo.

Sounds like we need another 2,000 EVO cars though.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**156** Posted **Nov 8, 2023, 12:09 AM**

blehh EVO. cant stand it. menace in the car. menace on the road. menace on the back roads. menace in neighbourhoods.

jollyburger · #**157** Posted **Nov 8, 2023, 7:00 AM**

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Good news for car-share users in Burnaby: city council has approved new rules that will allow companies like Evo and Modo to park their cars anywhere in the municipality, free of charge, with no time limit — even in spaces with parking meters.

Currently, car-shares can only be parked at specific designated areas at Metrotown, Brentwood Town Centre, Simon Fraser University, and BCIT. They can’t be parked at any other locations in Burnaby.

City councillor Alison Gu says the changes will even allow car-share vehicles to park on streets for more than 24 hours in areas where those restrictions currently apply to other vehicles.

“The entirety of Burnaby will be covered,” Gu told CityNews. “And people can take a trip from Metrotown to a friend’s house in Burnaby Central or Burnaby North or anywhere else in the city.”

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...share-parking/