Edmonton Public Transit - Page 577

CMD UW · #**11521** Posted **Jul 11, 2023, 2:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by stilicho

I warned people this was going to happen. They are planning to forbid left turns on 104 Avenue at those two intersections and probably several others.

If you live in Oliver and drive to or from downtown or Oliver Unity Square your commute is going to be different.

I saw an elderly couple stopping at the light to cross 104 Avenue the other day and I asked them if they were excited that a new LRT line was going to be built right down the middle of the road. They looked at me and laughed and shook their heads in disbelief.

About a quarter of Oliver's residents are over the age of 60 and there are several old age homes within striking distance of the new tramway.

Limiting left-hand turning movements along 104 Ave has been known for awhile (see page 36 on this document)...so this shouldn't come as a surprise. I also believe many of these seniors, especially those with limited mobility, will be happy to take the train back-and-forth.

https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/default/files/public-files/assets/VLW_Booklet.pdf

YEG-Urbanist · #**11522** Posted **Jul 12, 2023, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

Limiting left-hand turning movements along 104 Ave has been known for awhile (see page 36 on this document)...so this shouldn't come as a surprise. I also believe many of these seniors, especially those with limited mobility, will be happy to take the train back-and-forth.

https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/default/files/public-files/assets/VLW_Booklet.pdf

At the current rate the city builds LRTs, 99% of those seniors will have passed away before it's complete. I'll probably be dead as well.

Slide · #**11523** Posted **Jul 14, 2023, 9:33 AM**

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Edmonton police urge caution on transit in wake of weekend violence capped by LRT killing

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-n...f-weekend-violence-capped-by-lrt-killing

Coldrsx · #**11524** Posted **Jul 17, 2023, 3:16 AM**

Absolutely awful.

stilicho · #**11525** Posted **Jul 17, 2023, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

Limiting left-hand turning movements along 104 Ave has been known for awhile (see page 36 on this document)...so this shouldn't come as a surprise. I also believe many of these seniors, especially those with limited mobility, will be happy to take the train back-and-forth.

https://www.edmonton.ca/sites/default/files/public-files/assets/VLW_Booklet.pdf

Except it is a surprise and very unpleasant one. I've been attending their public "consultation" events since I moved back to Edmonton in 2018. At one, I asked if they were truly serious about having an at-grade crossing at 109 St and 104 Avenue--one of the busiest and most accident-prone vehicular intersections in the city (due mainly to motorists racing the left-turn signal). The people running the booth sort of giggled since they must have thought I was trying to entertain them instead of asking a serious question.

They ensured us that the plan was only a draft and that the consultation would fix problems such as running a train pell-mell straight down the middle of the street.

They didn't take any of the consultation measures seriously and people in the area are still woefully uninformed about the tramway. Go to any event in Oliver and talk to people and they just don't know what it's going to look like. They won't read a PDF because they really don't think anybody's going to do what they're planning. They think it's going to have grade separation at the busiest intersections and crossing gates and other sensible engineering.

As for old folks dying before the project is live--that's not unlikely as an unstated part of the plan. But those who live in the area and walk to and from amenities know very well that older residents simply can't make it all the way across 104 Avenue using a walker within 21 seconds or whatever arbitrary crossing time they choose. Motorists are very patient and acknowledge that old people need more time to cross. Will the tram operators hold up the schedule and allow the little old lady to cross?

And the crossing promises to be even wider as they start laying track and widening the thoroughfare.

PS: Seniors avoid the LRT since they are defenseless against roving gangs of miscreants.

Coldrsx · #**11526** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 1:54 PM**

From the transit thread.

s211 · #**11527** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 3:05 PM**

Commuter excluded? Do they mean heavy-rail commuter trains?

EdmTrekker · #**11528** Posted **Jul 28, 2023, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

From the transit thread.

Meaningless without the web link. San Francisco BART runs all day long between Oakland and SF and to SFO and appears excluded. What is the data source ?

Edmontonguy · #**11529** Posted **Jul 30, 2023, 3:07 PM**

Montreal's new RAPID transit system has opened! No issues with their concrete piers! And it's fast and frequent and will be scalable to meet future demand!

Harrison · #**11530** Posted **Jul 31, 2023, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Edmontonguy

Montreal's new RAPID transit system has opened! No issues with their concrete piers! And it's fast and frequent and will be scalable to meet future demand!

What a novel concept!

Slide · #**11531** Posted **Aug 2, 2023, 12:36 PM**

These type of news stories seem to be a weekly thing

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Chilean senior visiting Edmonton randomly attacked on LRT

https://globalnews.ca/news/9871414/edmonton-lrt-attack-chile-senior/

taking transit has become high risk. Perhaps a silver lining to the valley line delay is that maybe the violence on board has a chance of being sorted before the line opens.

JSS1974 · #**11532** Posted **Aug 2, 2023, 3:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Slide

These type of news stories seem to be a weekly thing

https://globalnews.ca/news/9871414/edmonton-lrt-attack-chile-senior/

taking transit has become high risk. Perhaps a silver lining to the valley line delay is that maybe the violence on board has a chance of being sorted before the line opens.

I once went to New Delhi, India, and on their LRT system were several armed guards. They were ready to pounce and beat the $%^& out of anyone misbehaving.

It was a nice system they got there.

Coldrsx · #**11533** Posted **Aug 2, 2023, 3:31 PM**

I'd like to see a ZERO tolerance mindset and additional accountability for those who put the public at risk on transit. Do a two week blitz and make it very public.

feepa · #**11534** Posted **Aug 2, 2023, 6:13 PM**

the problem isn't zero tolerance. The problem is the catch and release. The courts are very backed up. We need government to properly fund our services. We put more and more resources into chasing these people, but as long as we dont treat or lock these people up longer term - many time offenders are back on the same streets days later.

The two week blitz would see a two week period where a bunch of people are caught, and things calm down for 30 seconds, and rinse and repeat.

ExcaliburKid · #**11535** Posted **Aug 2, 2023, 6:27 PM**

Not to go too far off track with this, but my wife works at the Edmonton Max and they will have inmates who are released back onto the streets and purposely re-offend within days of their release to simply get back into prison where they know they will have a roof over their heads, medication and food. Our system is truly broken

Harrison · #**11536** Posted **Aug 2, 2023, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

Not to go too far off track with this, but my wife works at the Edmonton Max and they will have inmates who are released back onto the streets and purposely re-offend within days of their release to simply get back into prison where they know they will have a roof over their heads, medication and food. Our system is truly broken

That is nuts, but not surprising.

Coldrsx · #**11537** Posted **Aug 3, 2023, 2:12 PM**

23 Ave tunnel

Base on SRC
https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/capital-line-lrt.24700/page-36

stilicho · #**11538** Posted **Aug 7, 2023, 2:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by stilicho

More problems with the tap card system. For the past half a day at least I have had an error message "Merchant Account Disabled" when trying to load my ARC card using my standard credit card that I use online and for groceries. Never had a problem with it with any other service.

Have logged a complaint and now need to wait up to three business days for them to respond. Imagine if I used this card daily.

On the return trip from visiting somebody around the Southgate LRT station the tap card terminal was disabled on the bus I boarded downtown. The vehicle operator saw me wince as I started putting my tap card back into my wallet and sternly exhorted me to tap the terminal at the exit near the back. I complied but that one returned an error of some sort and I advised the driver that one didn't work either.

He ignored me.

This tap card system is abhorrent. I've had multiple failures and I ride the system once or twice a month at most. Combine the failures with the ridiculous password force change and I suspect nobody will be using it within a year. The password force change, incidentally, apparently records your previous six passwords and won't let you re-use any of them. So users will default to "password1" through "password6" or some such iteration.

Abominable development team with absolutely no attention to convenience.

Coldrsx · #**11539** Posted **Aug 7, 2023, 2:52 AM**

Can someone explain to me why Edmonton didn't learn from other's experiences and just use a tried and true? Or did they?

snowman123 · #**11540** Posted **Aug 8, 2023, 1:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Can someone explain to me why Edmonton didn't learn from other's experiences and just use a tried and true? Or did they?

lol... Because this is Edmonton. Things that have been successfully working in cities all across the planet wont work here. Our 'experts' trot out numerous excuses why things are different in Edmonton.
Heads need to roll, we get what we vote for.

I use transit 2-3 days a week, and will stick with the paper tickets. They are easy to use, I can see exactly how many are left, I do not need to put them in my wallet, and, they always work :-)