YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Gordon]

I always thought the final phase of the West Chevron was 6 Wide body gates.

These gates would have Double headed bridges.

Gates D50 & 51 have been coverted to double headed bridge gates.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by nname

"not great" sounds like an understatement to me... I'd say Vancouver is a horrible hub for domestic travel outside of BC and major cities. Geography might be a reason, but for the size and traffic, YVR should have 5-7 more.

In addition to geography, the main reason is that the two major airlines in this country have their hubs to the east. It is easier to coordinate passengers from smaller eastern destinations through a hub and then to Vancouver than directly.

A lot of the destinations served by YYC and YYZ are smaller - ex. Charlottetown, Brandon, London, Kitchener-Waterloo, Deer Lake - so a direct flight would be a dicey proposition, especially as the distance increases.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i just booked a ticket and didn't notice till after that i fly there with Air Canada and Fly back with WestJet, d'oh. But in options WestJet had more departure options leaving YVR, 4 flights, but only one of them is direct, the others fly via YYC with 30 mins - 4 hour layovers. Air Canada only had 2 options both with direct flights.

Anyway I was looking once about 2 years ago, and one of the flight options with west jet was YVR - Toronto, a fairly short layover there, then Toronto - Winnipeg - Calgary - Ft St John, it was almost 30 or so hours travel time. Crazy. And cost about 4x what the direct option was.

You got 4x the amount of take-off and landings thought

[rxp]

Originally Posted by casper

But their wide-body gates that can probably hold the 777, 747, A380. Those gates take up a lot of space relative to the gates used for narrow body aircraft.

4 gates for the D pier expansion? isnt that the long term future?

I thought the initial plan is for 4 gates was for temporary transborder terminal for horizon air... 4 new gates for them is a tiny expansion in the grand scheme of things....

[Gordon]

The Transboarder holdroom will remain as is the plan is to remove it When the east Concourse is expanded

[excel]

Air China is acquiring Cathay Pacific apparently.

http://www.corporationchina.com/blog/201...re-cathay-pacific-airways-breaking-news/

[teriyaki]

Spotted Eastern Airlines parked close to the South terminal today. Anyone maybe know why it's all the way up here? Was pleasantly surprised by the rare sight

[nname]

Originally Posted by excel

Air China is acquiring Cathay Pacific apparently.

http://www.corporationchina.com/blog/201...re-cathay-pacific-airways-breaking-news/

If this news was posted on or before yesterday, then this had been proven to be a false rumor.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

No real surprises but CZ returning to the 77W on YVR-CAN effective 26 March.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...ouver-s17-service-changes-as-of-17jan17/

As far as I can tell it's not a return of the 77W but a continuation and a backtrack of their previous 'downguage'. They are still running 77Ws today.

Originally Posted by Gordon

I always thought the final phase of the West Chevron was 6 Wide body gates.

Well sounds like they are expanding their plans as it will now be 8 (4 in the intiial expansion then another 4 after).

Originally Posted by nname

If this news was posted on or before yesterday, then this had been proven to be a false rumor.

Ya I'm fairly certain that is BS.

[LeftCoaster]

No one going to post the flythrough of the new expansion??

https://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/821892377639981056

I think it looks fantastic. Keeping with the very distinct YVR theme and building on it.

[excel]

That looks great.

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by teriyaki

Spotted Eastern Airlines parked close to the South terminal today. Anyone maybe know why it's all the way up here? Was pleasantly surprised by the rare sight

Florida Panthers charter an eastern airlines 737 based out of Miami when they travel.
Any chance they were playing in Vancouver?

All other Eastern Airlines were charters to Cuba. That is until the US and Cuba govts came to an agreement

[SpongeG]

could be they were in alberta yesterday i think, i can't recall but i think it was edmonton

[jollyburger]

Panthers play the Canucks tomorrow night.

EDIT: Found the plane

Airline: Eastern Airlines
Aircraft: Boeing 737-8CX
Registration: N277EA
Route: EA5240 (FLL-YYC)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPTw3_JhO3n/

Flight data on the tracking from Edmonton:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EAL5242

[Johnny Aussie]

A good article on the increase in nonstop flights from YVR to Mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

https://www.biv.com/article/2017/1/vancouver-greater-china-non-stop-flights-surge/

Also a good chart towards the bottom highlighting the growth over the years.

104 nonstop flights to China/HK/Taiwan expected by July.

[twoNeurons]

Looks like YVR just released their expansion plan documents:

http://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/past-and-future/flight-plan-2037

Flight Plan 2037 provides YVR’s overarching blueprint for the future, which includes a Capital Plan, Terminal Plan, Financial Plan and the YVR 2037 Master Plan. Details of the $5.6 billion plan include expanded terminals, new taxiways, a geoexchange system and upgraded roads and bridges to Sea Island which will help YVR support the estimated 35 million passengers expected to travel through YVR annually by 2037.



As part of Flight Plan 2037, YVR is now in Phase 3 of the YVR 2037 Master Plan, a community and stakeholder consultation process that guides YVR’s land use decision-making and facility development for the next 20 years. For more information and details on how you can get involved visit YVR2037.ca

Direct link to the PDF.

[phesto]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

No one going to post the flythrough of the new expansion??

https://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/821892377639981056

I think it looks fantastic. Keeping with the very distinct YVR theme and building on it.

I like the open-air landscaped part. Should look really cool - both on sunny days and at night if they light it up properly.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by phesto

I like the open-air landscaped part. Should look really cool - both on sunny days and at night if they light it up properly.

Agreed. The "Gulf Island" as they call it should be a very cool centrepiece.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by phesto

I like the open-air landscaped part. Should look really cool - both on sunny days and at night if they light it up properly.

Amen to that. Very relaxing and non-sterile - which is especially good if your flight gets delayed and you're stuck there for more than five hours.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

A good article on the increase in nonstop flights from YVR to Mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

https://www.biv.com/article/2017/1/vancouver-greater-china-non-stop-flights-surge/

Also a good chart towards the bottom highlighting the growth over the years.

104 nonstop flights to China/HK/Taiwan expected by July.

A few interesting things.

One: Air China bumping up to 11 is not their current plan as far as I can tell. They have the 2 unused frequencies so it is likely but it would be nice to see them confirm it.

Two: How little seasonality there is in Asia flying. Sure the planes get upgauged in the summer, but wow what a difference from Europe flying that has an entirely different profile from January to July.

Three: Carl Jones of YVR stating that Hainan is still looking to start up Tianjin even though the bilateral appears maxed. As director of the air service department I'm sure he is aware of the bilateral so maybe he knows something we don't ie: expansions to it, a separately negotiated exception for Hainan or YYC losing its service.