YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[LeftCoaster]

Wow that's half a year with 747-8i service. Amazing!

Still eagerly awaiting what AC does with the apparent Rouge plane at YVR. Fingers crossed for two 3 per week Europe flights. Don't know where else they would send them in Asia outside of Sapporo (which would also be very cool), maybe it has the range to do Busan?

[SpongeG]

there really is nothing to fly to other than Vancouver, I could be wrong but i doubt many people from winnipeg or anywhere in canada want to fly to prince george or terrace etc. Perhaps Victoria but if it's for holidays people like the ferry ride.

When i flew from YVR to FSJ at christmas time, the guy on the other side was talking with the woman sitting next to him, he wanted to fly from Prince George to Ft St John but had to do so via YVR which seems kinda crazy that he would have to fly all that way south only to wait around and fly north again flying over where he started out.

[nname]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Wow that's half a year with 747-8i service. Amazing!

Still eagerly awaiting what AC does with the apparent Rouge plane at YVR. Fingers crossed for two 3 per week Europe flights. Don't know where else they would send them in Asia outside of Sapporo (which would also be very cool), maybe it has the range to do Busan?

Sapporo, Fukuoka, Busan, Jeju, Shenyang, Harbin, Tianjin should all be within reach. Some of these would make great vacation destination, except for a very very long flight

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by WhyVeeAre

On another note, with the challenges of the new terminal in Calgary, could WestJet be eyeing more flights in/out of Vancouver and beefing up their presence?

What could end up being very interesting is if/when WestJet joins Skyteam.

This could either be a huge boom for YYCs International aspirations or it could be the final nail that relegates YYC to a domestic airport.

If WestJet choses to focus their international growth at YVR, taking advantage of the huge Skyteam presence in Vancouver, that would be a huge blow to YYC. I do not agree that the new terminal is not an issue, as WestJet will likely be making decisions like this over the next several years, and if they have a soured relationship with CAA it certainly will influence their decisions.

It's worth noting that YVRs Skyteam international operations are larger even than YYZ, so I do think it could be a strong pull to get WestJet to focus their new Intl' operations at YYZ and YVR, rather than YYZ and YYC.

[casper]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

there really is nothing to fly to other than Vancouver, I could be wrong but i doubt many people from winnipeg or anywhere in canada want to fly to prince george or terrace etc. Perhaps Victoria but if it's for holidays people like the ferry ride.

When i flew from YVR to FSJ at christmas time, the guy on the other side was talking with the woman sitting next to him, he wanted to fly from Prince George to Ft St John but had to do so via YVR which seems kinda crazy that he would have to fly all that way south only to wait around and fly north again flying over where he started out.

Depending on which direction the wind is blowing on the LNG front there can actually be quite a bit of traffic between places like Terrace and Calgary. Much of it connecting in Vancouver.

Based in Victoria I frequently connect in Calgary heading east. Tourism is important on Vancouver Island but there is still a lot of business traffic on and off the island to the parries and points east. Victoria as an example has multiple non-stop flights to SFO, SEA, and YYC through the day. YYZ and many of the regional centres in BC have more limited service.

[Gordon]

What is the west Jet encore facility in Vancouver like?

If Yvr keeps a good working relationship with the Skyteam members that Use YVR 9t may be difficult for YYC to draw these carriers away from vancouver

Encore needs a bigger footprint at YVr & throughout the province.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Wow that's half a year with 747-8i service. Amazing!

Still eagerly awaiting what AC does with the apparent Rouge plane at YVR. Fingers crossed for two 3 per week Europe flights. Don't know where else they would send them in Asia outside of Sapporo (which would also be very cool), maybe it has the range to do Busan?

I think the 763 on Wednesday will come from that PVR flight. YVR-PVR can easily be flown with an A319. I don't think RV will add any Europe flights this year out of YVR. They would have already announced it by now.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Gordon

What is the west Jet encore facility in Vancouver like?

If Yvr keeps a good working relationship with the Skyteam members that Use YVR 9t may be difficult for YYC to draw these carriers away from vancouver

Encore needs a bigger footprint at YVr & throughout the province.

The Encore gates at YVR are not bad, but not great. It is on par with Calgary, Edmonton and a host of others. In the main building there are a series of counters that back onto Teflon covered walkway that connects to stands where the aircraft part.

As for the routes, they feed many of the regional centres in BC from Vancouver. Encore has more aircraft on order, perhaps some of them will end up in YVR.

[trofirhen]

I like the idea of a One World hub at Vancouver, as suggested by 2Neurons. We could have regular flights to Barcelona, and I'll bet they'd pay for themselves.++

[mezzanine]

BoT talk will start soon. pic of the center pieces look cool - I'm sure these will sell well if they ever make them for the gift shops:



https://twitter.com/yvrairport/status/821805616062599169

[SpongeG]

I flew westjet from YVR to Ft St John, the problem was lack of flight options, they show you many options for departure times, but i think only 1 maybe 2 were direct, all the other options flew YVR - Calgary or Edmonton or both - FSJ

There was one option it left YVR around 10 pm, had a 15 hour layover in Victoria! then flew to Calgary with a 3 hour layover than onto FSJ almost 20 hours later. Lol. Why would someone choose that option.

Also I usually fly Air Canada and the planes are pretty much full, the times I flew WestJet the plane had a good number of seats that were empty.

[excel]

Rarely would someone choose that route but in a worst case scenario, you may be forced to if all other flights are full and you are booking last minute.
Or you've got a friend in YYJ you want to visit

[nname]

For miles and flight segment to earn frequent flyer status. Given this should be around the same cost,

YVR-YXJ = 1 segment, 498 miles
YVR-YYJ-YYC-YXJ = 3 segments, 941 miles

This flight is great at year end if you're a few miles or segments short of the next tier.

So for someone who frequently travel on the route (ie. 2 round-trips per month).. doing the first way would most likely give you a lower or middle tier (Prestige, silver, etc). On the other hand, doing it the long way every time would quite likely yield you the top tier (Super Elite, diamond, etc) status, or very close to it - given you got lots of time to kill.

[phesto]

Haven't been following this thread in very closely, but has the 2037 draft plan been discussed? Released to the media today.

http://www.yvr2037.ca/

Of note, North-South taxiway over Grant McConachie will be built in next 10 years. No new runways for 20 years.

[mezzanine]

From what I can parse, not a whole lot of information that isn't new and nothing imminent. Incrementalism seems to be key, which isn't a bad thing, especially if they want to get around to building the foreshore runway.

a few interesting things:

-22.3 million pax for 2016.
-NS taxiway as mentioned above to be built within 10 yrs.
-preserve land for a future west satellite terminal
-another schematic of terminal expansion. Interesting to note they are moving on D and east concourse (transborder) as the next step WRT terminals



http://www.yvr2037.ca/system/redactor_as...02/283/original/Terminals.png?1484612338

[rxp]

only 4 new gates initially? really

[casper]

Originally Posted by rxp

only 4 new gates initially? really

But their wide-body gates that can probably hold the 777, 747, A380. Those gates take up a lot of space relative to the gates used for narrow body aircraft.

[casper]

Originally Posted by nname

For miles and flight segment to earn frequent flyer status. Given this should be around the same cost,

YVR-YXJ = 1 segment, 498 miles
YVR-YYJ-YYC-YXJ = 3 segments, 941 miles

This flight is great at year end if you're a few miles or segments short of the next tier.

So for someone who frequently travel on the route (ie. 2 round-trips per month).. doing the first way would most likely give you a lower or middle tier (Prestige, silver, etc). On the other hand, doing it the long way every time would quite likely yield you the top tier (Super Elite, diamond, etc) status, or very close to it - given you got lots of time to kill.

There are a number of people who chase status and would do these things. I think AC is year after year closing the loopholes and making it harder to do these silly things.

I find the instead of spending money paying airline games to get status, you pay extra for the correct credit card that has equivalent privileges and you come out ahead in the end.

[SpongeG]

i just booked a ticket and didn't notice till after that i fly there with Air Canada and Fly back with WestJet, d'oh. But in options WestJet had more departure options leaving YVR, 4 flights, but only one of them is direct, the others fly via YYC with 30 mins - 4 hour layovers. Air Canada only had 2 options both with direct flights.

Anyway I was looking once about 2 years ago, and one of the flight options with west jet was YVR - Toronto, a fairly short layover there, then Toronto - Winnipeg - Calgary - Ft St John, it was almost 30 or so hours travel time. Crazy. And cost about 4x what the direct option was.

[Johnny Aussie]

No real surprises but CZ returning to the 77W on YVR-CAN effective 26 March.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...ouver-s17-service-changes-as-of-17jan17/